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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJUST SENT MAX BAUCUS A FLAMING EMAIL
I TOLD HIM THAT JON TESTER HAD THE COJONES TO DO WHAT HE WAS A COWARD TO DO
I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THAT POS AGAIN - SCREW HIM TO HELL
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)That said, the real blame goes to Harry Reid and the rest of the dems who could not bring themselves to shut down the 60 vote thing TWICE when we could have done it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)He found a way to actually lead on this issue.
Max Baucus is a sell out and a coward.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Long gone are the days when dems held a substantial majority.. For the foreseeable future we will have a razor thin edge (in either favor), and there are hardly any republicans who will stray our way, and there are always dems who will vote with republicans (see the Bush Era senate)
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The problem isn't the filibuster, it's the Senate's membership.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)we have a POTUS joining the republicans in proposing cuts to SS.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)It's been this way for a very long time (maybe forever)..
We all just do what we can, and keep trying & hope nothing too awful happens to us..
hatrack
(59,584 posts)The GOP apparently are such star-spangled super-heroes that they control all whether in the minority or majority, whether they hold the White House or not, so WHY BOTHER?
Why even try to hold people accountable for their actions or decisions?
Why try and remember how members of Congress voted, or what presidents do as opposed to what they said they'd do?
Why have fucking primaries, or elections?
I'm tired of being wrapped in the novacained cotton-wool of "political realism" or inside baseball Beltway bullshit, and being soothed and reminded that it could be worse.
HOW? Please explain to me how it would be any different than it already is - fucked-up, venal, arrogant, dysfunctional and soaked in blood.
ChangeUp106
(549 posts)See that's the problem and the trap that the Democrats are stuck in. And please understand that I'm not aiming this at you.
It's always "well if we don't vote for this fake Democrat than a Republican will win..."
Sadly that's true. But we HAVE to change it. We must put pressure on these clowns or find a way to get real D's elected
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)That allows for a few "rowdy" dems to misbehave and still hold their seat needed for a majority..