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(295,929 posts)get the red out
(13,459 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)tosh
(4,422 posts)ChangeUp106
(549 posts)All of 'em
northoftheborder
(7,566 posts)Hekate
(90,202 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)The Wizard
(12,482 posts)secret Cayman Islands accounts. Campaign reform is a hoax.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)they are greedy insensitive assholes.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)need to hear from us, perhaps w/out using the "fu", but something similar ...
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)Heitkamp and Pryor
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)should have that belief put to rest today. We have an oligarchy pure and simple. It simply does not matter what the people want, it only matters why the people with the big bucks want. Congress knows it can blithely ignore the will of the people and simply vote for what those with the big bucks want, and the idiots who vote will forget and vote for the guy who runs the most ads, or who belongs to 'their' political party.
The politicians don't listen to petitions, demonstrations, phone calls, editorials, or office visits, or letters. All that matters is that they vote the way the folks with the fat wallets want them to. And, if worst comes to worst and they get voted out of office, they know that so long as they voted the way their masters wanted them to, they will get jobs doing nothing and getting paid way more than they were making as a congresscritter.
The USA is well-and truly screwed and even though over 90% of the people wanted tighter controls on gun sales, there were even more corrupt, money-grubbing, gold digging congressmen. Congressmen who thing it is a good idea to take from the poor and give to the rich. I have no hope left for this country.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,593 posts)calimary
(80,700 posts)Glad you're here! Disgraceful day. Even more disgraceful is the handful of Dems who voted with the bad guys. Stunning. And deeply shameful.
I humbly submit the Toll Free phone numbers to the Capitol Hill switchboard. Below, in my sig line. Call them during business hours. Call any Senator you can think of, if you really wanna know. The good and the bad. The good need to know we have their backs (because they're gonna be under siege from the NRA) and the bad need to know we have their number.
If they think you don't care, THEY WON'T, EITHER!!!!!
LiberalLovinLug
(14,154 posts)First it was the Democrats, no less, that ignored the 75% of citizens that wanted a public option for medical insurance, now this. Put a fork in this democratic experiment.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,154 posts)....look over there!
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)That's why one of the snarkiest things I can do is to grin and offer to pay someone's airfare to that conservative's garden of Eden. My generosity is likely to be sparked when a teabagger starts screeching about hating all government. It's such an outrageous offer that I can generally trust folks to understand.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Faceless filibusters majority votes not actually being a majority. What the Fuck is it about a gun that makes them so damn important to these nuts. If you cherish a weapon a device meant for death that much your truly a fucking nut
longship
(40,416 posts)And a hearty DUrec and kick.
joesdaughter
(243 posts)I wish I had the money to buy billboards across the country. The display would have the photos of these Senators with the words-
GREEDY GUTLESS COWARDS !
TygrBright
(20,733 posts)"Thanks to madamesilverspurs for this image" as credit, natch.
hopefully,
Bright
madamesilverspurs
(15,784 posts)And thanks!
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)dhill926
(16,234 posts)this is a fucking disgrace.
Volaris
(10,260 posts)If Reid has FIXED this problem at the beginning of this term, we wouldn't BE here today. They might have still fillibustered, yes, but at least they would have had to done so from the floor of the Senate, IN PUBLIC, for all of us to see who it is that we are supposed to scorn and ridicule.
Mkap
(223 posts)who voted Nay.
Im pretty sure Ohio senator Sherrod Brown voted yes but im not sure about Portman
ohioliberal
(461 posts)I too want to find a list of those who voted no!
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For the Children of Newtown--WE ARE COMING FOR YOU.
calimary
(80,700 posts)Next time your campaign calls me asking for a donation, I will tell them that the money I would have contributed to you will go to the Sandy Hook anti-gun campaign.
No soup for YOU, heidi. I'm now officially gone.
SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)Paper Roses
(7,468 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Max Baucus is one of the most politically corrupt politicians in the Senate. If not the most.
Mkap
(223 posts)ohioliberal
(461 posts)I want to send an email to everyone of them who voted no. Bastards!!!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)that has been passed for the last 20 + years, the voice of the people doesn't matter one bit.
timdog44
(1,388 posts)Retribution shall be.
I don't like to use the F bomb. Fuck them.
$$$$$ before children.
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)checks passed???? This is epic fail... why would any Democratic Senator object to background checks, even some republicans voted for it isn't that enough of a shield for political cover if they needed it in red districts? If we can't even do simple things the really hard stuff is just never going to get done...
Finished with them all.... PEACE...
Apophis
(1,407 posts)democrank
(11,052 posts)florida08
(4,106 posts)The FU was to us today by the Senate
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Time to get rid of this wimp.
Tender to the Bone
(93 posts)To revisit the issue later on - he had to change his vote to bring it up later.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)But he's still a wimp.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)You don't mind if I call you a DebbieDowner then, do you?
It's just you following the popular thing to do in some circles, calling him a wimp. Even at his age, I don't think you'd want to invite him out back of the barn to discuss that charge.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Wow. That was way off. You really equate having been physical in one's prime with having principles and fighting for them in a political arena?
Oh, did you miss the part where he decided against filibuster reform and actually thought a handshake with McConnell would suffice? He's afraid to fight. Period.
Again, wow.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)So why don't you bug off and quit trying to pick fights by twisting what I say. Or do you have nothing better to do? You have all the perception of a stone. Contrarian to the core w/o a drop of redeeming social value. It's a mark of shallow immaturity.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I didn't twist anything you said at all. Reread your post. Then take your own advice. If you don't want people to respond to you then post on a blog and don't allow comments.
Plus, you picked a fight in your first post to me by attacking me and judging me. And you proceeded to decided that you and I would never see eye to eye on anything from one post??? Or did you look up all my posts so that you could really understand me and my views. I doubt it.
Talk about shallow immaturity. What about hypocrisy? Guess you have no problem with that.
florida08
(4,106 posts)before I craft my words to chicken little Rubio
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)which is universal background checks, without loopholes you could fly a squadron of bombers through. They even failed to pass a watered down, almost symbolic in its impotence version.
liberalmuse
(18,670 posts)They do not represent most of Americans. The blood is on their heads, now.
State the Obvious
(842 posts)....that's my Sandy Hook promise.
ramapo
(4,585 posts)Our Congress is worse than useless. The depth of my disgust for those people, Democrats and Republicans alike, cannot be measured.
apocalypsehow
(12,751 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)lakercub
(658 posts)Good for Collins, Kirk, McCain, and Toomey. I don't like them, but at least they are on the right side of this one. But with even that admittedly small number of Republicans, this should have been a pass.
Baucus especially sucks. Tester managed to have the guts to vote for it as a D in Montana, but Baucus ducks and hides once again. Spineless coward.
Begich, Heitkamp, and Pryor...you guys should be totally ashamed of yourselves. Even historically wishy-washy senators like Landrieu and Nelson voted for it but these three couldn't? Just pathetic (Reid doesn't count since his Nay is procedural).
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)especially as Landreiu is one of the most far right wing Dinos, even my Nelson voted for it, though Rubio voted against.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)I would work hard to see he isn't reelection next time. I told him I hope the good people of Tn will get their collective heads out of the asses and get the vote out.
florida08
(4,106 posts)Love it.. called Rubio a coward and didn't deserve the seat in the Senate. Wish I had added your last part..
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)You will get a email that everyone gets. The same bullshit form letter. I just let him know what a chicken he was. I also told him I hope he tosses and turn in his sleep at night so evey time he does he see those childrens faces and all the others who have died since Sandy Hook. I wanted to really really cuss him out but I help myself back. I also told him that he put the NRA over the american people. I felt good after I wrote it.
florida08
(4,106 posts)it's about our venting more than their listening but I am going to format another email that will do a better job of tearing him a new one. Just for those the babies in Newtown. Can't even sleep it's so upsetting. Think I can use Spanish cussing? lol
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)just make it.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Oh - wait - that's too nice.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)SciFiRK
(65 posts)our Blue Dog Democrat, and yet I did call him a gutless coward. I know we'll get another republican in 2014, Arkansas just can't stand having a black man for President. At least whoever we get will be one in name as well as deed.
A republican president is shot and we get the Brady Bill. 20 6 & 7 year old kids are shot and nothing. This should be the one issue. Every Senator who voted against is voted out of office, Dem or Repub.
Atlatl
(57 posts)Milliesmom
(493 posts)at the ballot box on Dems and Republican's, lets vote in people that are for gun safety, are for women's rights and are for gay rights, let's vote in people that love humanity and will work to make it a better world. I'm telling you it is time for people to march on WA DC.................
flobee1
(870 posts)RE: Shameful and Cowardly
Your vote today just proves to Ohio and the American people that congress no longer represents the people that voted them into office. You, and the rest of your fellow congressmen, have forgotten your purpose. Your vote today makes a strong statement that you are IN FAVOR of actions like Aurora, and Newtown. I hope the lobbyist money that you have been paid help you sleep at night.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)They can yap about "all in the name of balance" until the cows come home, but even when we have a majority, it doesn't matter because of the goddamned Repub filibuster abuse.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)sheshe2
(83,355 posts)The Wizard
(12,482 posts)has destroyed the great experiment that began in 1776. Democracy no longer is an operable part of the United States. The repubes have rendered the will of the people moot and nullified the election. They are worthy of blindfolds and cigarettes. Treasonous scumbags deserve nothing better.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts).
hue
(4,949 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Volaris
(10,260 posts)and the NRA KNOWS this, you can be damn sure of that.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)nineteen50
(1,187 posts)America has to stop 1%ers from buying democracy.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)It used to be...now it's A OK.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)nothing more
SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:52 PM - Edit history (1)
AAO
(3,300 posts)Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)
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SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)LeFleur1
(1,197 posts)How would a background check take away your right? Are you a criminal? abusive? mentally unbalanced? Do you buy your guns from nuts on the street?
I don't understand your objection to a background check unless...
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)that decided not to fix the filibuster. Just like two years ago, Sen Reid said he had the filibuster under control. He lied then and he lied now.
The Senate Democrats are being pulled around by their noses but a minority party.
cvoogt
(949 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)calimary
(80,700 posts)<a href="http://imgur.com/2XiLwR0"><img src="" alt="" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /></a>
onestepforward
(3,691 posts)Easy, clickable links here if you're on Tweeter:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/senate-background-check-bill_n_3104250.html
Deep13
(39,154 posts)A friend of mine owns a shooting range and a gun shop. He is in favor of universal background checks, mostly because he resents competition from unlicensed dealers.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)...and an end to the stream of weapons to organized crime is that he or she will lose his job, then where is the dilemma? Do it. A senator's job is not as important as reducing the runaway violence in this country. Ted Kennedy knew that. He chewed out an aid once for suggesting that he make a deal with the Rs to protect his reelection efforts. "I don't need this job," he said.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)... famously chewed out an R for chewing out his (Ted's) staff instead of taking it up with him.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)bucolic_frolic
(42,676 posts)Sane and sober.
Didn't happen this time around.
But clearly the Obama Administration is indicating willingness
to draw an election line in the sand on this issue in 2014.
Rarely has a President gone to an off year election with a real
issue. And one the Obama Campaign Machine turns on the MoJo ...
well, ask Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.
Only a weaker economy is a worry at this point. But the election is
18 months away.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I'm happy about that. This vote shows how the red states have disproportionate power in the Senate. The Ds who voted nay are from red states.
lpbk2713
(42,696 posts)They should wear a patch on their sleeve like this ...
... because they know where their bread is buttered.
Highway61
(2,568 posts)I heard yesterday that the american people wanting background checks went from 53% to something like 49%. I don't believe everything I "hear" yet I DO know that a LOT american people have the fucking attention span of a gnat.
lowkell
(671 posts)hepkat
(143 posts)Prefers dead children to a 5 minute wait.
aquart
(69,014 posts)BrainDrain
(244 posts)This loss will enhance the reputation of the NRA. Here we had a HIGHLY emotional situation that under-pinned the effort for at least a minimal step forward in controlling gun violence. The atmosphere could not have been more favorable with national polling showing overwhelming support among the populace for the measure. Yet it still failed. The NRA didn't have to convince anyone outside of a few senators who were at risk for political defeat if they voted for the bill. The field they had to cover was narrow and well within their capability to exploit.
In todays world politics is not about knowing right from wrong or even something as simple as doing the right thing because the greater majority supports it. For most, it is about getting re-elected. And when you represent a state where a conservative majority make you vulnerable to electoral defeat, it makes a special interest group like the NRA that much more powerful. It also helps that those they target are weak of character to begin with and have no faith in themselves to be able to stand up front of their own constituents and be able to explain why it was so important to take this step and lay to rest the NRA lie that somehow this is an attempt to take their guns and freedoms away from them.
We the people suffer because far too many of those we elect lack the courage to do the right thing. They are more afraid of losing their privileges and status than they are of losing themselves.
That just makes this whole episode just that much more sad.
There comes a point where everyday, ordinary people must make a choice not to be ordinary anymore.
Let the Revolution...........begin
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,888 posts)the FU is not big enough or loud enough!