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anyone else adding 2 + 2 and getting deja vu all over again? (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 OP
They mailed anthrax after 9/11, not ricin. lob1 Apr 2013 #1
The substance doesn't matter -- poison is the point. n/t Bertha Venation Apr 2013 #3
Same fear tactics diabeticman Apr 2013 #4
My wife thought she was the only one thinking that. diabeticman Apr 2013 #2
So which uninvolved country gets invaded this time? DJ13 Apr 2013 #5
Syria popped into mind, actually. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #11
why yes, I found the headline just now. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #14
Good catch DJ13 Apr 2013 #18
iran or n. korea seem the clear favorites HiPointDem Apr 2013 #30
Poland Renew Deal Apr 2013 #35
Why of course...considering we are going backwards as a nation.. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #41
Yes don't forget Poland madokie Apr 2013 #56
Yeah, kinda freaky. n/t Bertha Venation Apr 2013 #6
I just wish I was as young as I was back in 2001.nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #7
indeed :) justabob Apr 2013 #36
Tom Daschle almost died.Not the time for conspiracy theories graham4anything Apr 2013 #8
That doesn't make any sense. Rex Apr 2013 #16
That's the idea. Remember when Cheney and Crew headed for the Exits? They forgot to tell Daschle. Octafish Apr 2013 #60
doubtful it's "2+2", but you can't help but notice simular element. Still, it's the differences that Schema Thing Apr 2013 #9
It is Quite Strange RobinA Apr 2013 #10
I think it sparks something in the minds of those that wanted to do something ... kentuck Apr 2013 #12
they would have needed to mail it express for it to be a rxn to boston HiPointDem Apr 2013 #31
Odd thing is that the first letter was mailed around April 9th... KoKo Apr 2013 #39
Dr. Bruce Ivins died of ...suicide...they say. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #40
omg...yes...this is it...Thanks for the Link and Find... KoKo Apr 2013 #42
They tried to destroy Hatfill first. He sued and won. anneboleyn Apr 2013 #49
Worth the Google for the young who don't know...n/t KoKo Apr 2013 #50
Seems To Me This Bombing, The False Arrest Reports Today, The Ricin Laced Letters - All Have Taken.. global1 Apr 2013 #13
CISPA is being voted on today, betcha hardly anyone is paying attention to that. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #17
I heard several Senators withdrew their gun bill support moondust Apr 2013 #21
GUN CONTROL VOTE FAILS IN SENATE dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #25
What Do Bombs In Boston Have To Do With Gun Bill Support?..... global1 Apr 2013 #26
Wicker had voted to end the initial filibuster so debate could proceed. DevonRex Apr 2013 #34
I connected this to NRA/gun Control-Z Apr 2013 #24
Not Really...most of us can Multi-Task...and know what the Senate Did KoKo Apr 2013 #43
Yep. JFK Library "fire" and American Airlines groundings figure in too? nt Skip Intro Apr 2013 #15
Absolutely...Don't Connect Dots from Past Experience from Literate KoKo Apr 2013 #44
nothing to see here librechik Apr 2013 #19
Any strange put options on the exchange recently? whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #20
Good question..I have no way to find out, but maybe others here...???? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #22
Commodities Futures Crash...including Gold, Silver, Mining ...etc. KoKo Apr 2013 #46
Copper took a big dive, too. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #53
OOPSIE...Chinese not using that Copper Plumbing in their KoKo Apr 2013 #57
it's certainly the exact same pattern.... villager Apr 2013 #23
It's like a diversion. kentuck Apr 2013 #32
Who Knows...but "Diversion" has been used Very Successfully in KoKo Apr 2013 #51
I feel the same way... Carolina Apr 2013 #27
2+2 SamKnause Apr 2013 #28
And Chuck Hagel wants to cut the military budget more. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #29
Ricin probably has to do with gun control. DevonRex Apr 2013 #33
Anything is possible in our era of corruption just1voice Apr 2013 #37
Smaller bombs and much less deadly stuff sent Progressive dog Apr 2013 #38
Just waiting on the anthrax....is it any wonder none of us believe much of anything? mother earth Apr 2013 #45
This time it's "RICIN" and not the "ANTHRAX" but got your point KoKo Apr 2013 #47
I know it's ricin, but it's early yet. And haven't you heard, bird flu is mother earth Apr 2013 #48
Oh Yes...Drag out the "Bird Flu" Devastating CHINA...spreading Here... KoKo Apr 2013 #52
And next will be puffy jacketed guys getting shot up in the subway...you see something, call someone mother earth Apr 2013 #54
i think I can understand what you are saying.. KoKo Apr 2013 #55
Guys wearing heavy jackets were shot and killed in a London subway on suspicion of concealing bomb. mother earth Apr 2013 #58
Only Kevin Curtis Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #59

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. why yes, I found the headline just now.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:14 PM
Apr 2013

Been off puter all day.
Now I see where....US to deploy 200 troops to Jordan over Syria war: minister
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014457278

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
18. Good catch
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:22 PM
Apr 2013

I was hoping for Tahiti, or some island paradise like that.

I should have known better.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
41. Why of course...considering we are going backwards as a nation..
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:00 PM
Apr 2013

Time for Poland to get run over, yet again.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
60. That's the idea. Remember when Cheney and Crew headed for the Exits? They forgot to tell Daschle.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:35 AM
Apr 2013

...They also failed to inform the rest of the Democratic leadership there was incoming danger and they the neocon PNACers were outgoing to a secret, saf, and undisclosed location. They also left the Democrats out of whatever was to pass for the shadow government after the emergency.

Details: Know your BFEE: The Secret Government



I'm sure it was just an oversight or a coincidence or something that doesn't start with a conspiracy.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
9. doubtful it's "2+2", but you can't help but notice simular element. Still, it's the differences that
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:01 PM
Apr 2013

....are important.



This ricen attack may well be directly connected to the person or group involved in the bombings. The Anthrax attacks were not connected to 9/11, except as cover.

RobinA

(9,878 posts)
10. It is Quite Strange
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:01 PM
Apr 2013

Unless people habitually mail poison to Washington and it just doesn't get reported.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
12. I think it sparks something in the minds of those that wanted to do something ...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:04 PM
Apr 2013

...but never had the courage until someone else had done something horrible. Then they were encouraged to act in their own way, mailing poison to the White House or the Capitol.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
39. Odd thing is that the first letter was mailed around April 9th...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:27 PM
Apr 2013

I read the report...sorry don't have a link...but, trust me on this...I can find. So, how did the person know to mail letters "ahead of time?"

It's so similar to what happened after "9/11" which had Congress and Senate all in a frenzy that it's too hard to ignore. Yet, they never found who mailed the letters with Anthrax and the Scientist who was blamed had lots of folks thinking he was wrongfully charged. I think he committed suicide?

Whatever....Don't have time to look it all up...but, you remember Kentuck. We were around here at the same time. Hard to believe how long it's been and that the memory goes fuzzy over the details...but the major points do click in when it seems to be a repeat.

for the Memory

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
40. Dr. Bruce Ivins died of ...suicide...they say.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:44 PM
Apr 2013
On Tuesday, July 29, 2008, he died of an overdose of Tylenol in an apparent suicide after learning that criminal charges were likely to be filed against him by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for an alleged criminal connection to the 2001 anthrax attacks.
No formal charges were ever actually filed against him for the crime, and no direct evidence of his involvement has been uncovered

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Ivins

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
42. omg...yes...this is it...Thanks for the Link and Find...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:05 PM
Apr 2013

I think it's important as we watch THIS investigation of "Boston Bomber" go forward that we remember...there is a HISTORY and we need to hold officials feet to the fire ...now that anothr event has happened.

A Proper Investigation Needs to be Done. Not like the hacked up "9/11" report and what the FBI did to Dr. Bruce Ivans..

ENOUGH OF THIS. There's enough creepy similarities that I think some Evil Ones are Laughing at us as to how to SNOOKER US AGAIN!

Think of all those reports on CNN/MSNBC/Boston Globe/Atlantic Monthly's Wired Blog...of the back and fort that there was a SUSPECT...then there WASN'T a SUSPECT... An Update from FBI was to be at 4:00 p.m. today (It was cancelled) and that the Boston Court House was evacuated due to Bomb Threat after it was announced the Suspect was On His Way....and THEN they cancelled the FBI Presser.

Meanwhile "Ricin Containing Letters to House & Senate and President" and more lockdowns in DC...yet they say some "unidentified person" managed to give packages and letters to House/Senate Members? How did they GET IN THERE when they are on Hight Security Alert?

It's been a Very Wild Day...after a very Horrible "Boston Marathon Race" which is so filled with Tragedy..

I hope we will make a DIFFERENCE...unlike what Bush II told us to do which was: "GO OUT AND SHOP."

global1

(25,168 posts)
13. Seems To Me This Bombing, The False Arrest Reports Today, The Ricin Laced Letters - All Have Taken..
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:13 PM
Apr 2013

the spotlight off of the votes going down in the Senate today on guns.

Coincidence? - hmmmmmm...........

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
17. CISPA is being voted on today, betcha hardly anyone is paying attention to that.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:17 PM
Apr 2013
The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) is a proposed law in the United States which would allow for the sharing of Internet traffic information between the U.S. government and certain technology and manufacturing companies.
The stated aim of the bill is to help the U.S government investigate cyber threats and ensure the security of networks against cyberattack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act

moondust

(19,917 posts)
21. I heard several Senators withdrew their gun bill support
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:26 PM
Apr 2013

after the Boston bombs, maybe coincidentally and maybe not.

global1

(25,168 posts)
26. What Do Bombs In Boston Have To Do With Gun Bill Support?.....
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:39 PM
Apr 2013

Sounds like they are looking for any excuse to give them cover.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
34. Wicker had voted to end the initial filibuster so debate could proceed.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:02 PM
Apr 2013

Gun control is the only link between him and Obama. It is obvious.

Control-Z

(15,681 posts)
24. I connected this to NRA/gun
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:36 PM
Apr 2013

nuttery right from the start. I thought the Sandy Hook presence might be connected somehow. Intimidation? I don't know. But this makes me think I was on the right track.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022682517

Normally I don't do conspiratorial thinking. I swear.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
43. Not Really...most of us can Multi-Task...and know what the Senate Did
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:38 PM
Apr 2013

on Gun Control that both Obama and Dems and the American People wanted to see. We saw the vote...we were Devastated...but...we can still handle what's going on with the "Boston Bomber Attack" and process.

Just saying...

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
44. Absolutely...Don't Connect Dots from Past Experience from Literate
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:41 PM
Apr 2013

Adults who lived through Historic Times...just "Trash the Messenger" ...Ignore the News Data that's Historical Record and easily available with simple Google/Bing/Yahoo or whatever YOU USE to SEARCH for Info! It's also available in Library Records...but, we like the Instant for our Fast Moving Culture which needs to get info out QUICK!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. Good question..I have no way to find out, but maybe others here...????
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:26 PM
Apr 2013


that kind of thing usually shows up in a day or 2.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
46. Commodities Futures Crash...including Gold, Silver, Mining ...etc.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:42 PM
Apr 2013

It's quite fun out there to see what goes on...

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
57. OOPSIE...Chinese not using that Copper Plumbing in their
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:08 PM
Apr 2013

Big Building Boom Anymore? Using that "Blue Pipe...etc." that Homeowners all over America are having to pull out of their houses if they want to sell them (at their own cost) because Copper Prises went Up to Build China's Empty Cities...so their people could do what we did here and Buy for Investment?

Tell me it Ain't SO! Tell ME...!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
51. Who Knows...but "Diversion" has been used Very Successfully in
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:13 PM
Apr 2013

the Past...so don't GIVE UP ON...WHAT WORKS!

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
27. I feel the same way...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:41 PM
Apr 2013

get the people all hyped and scared while you take away more rights and steal SS & Medicare...

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
29. And Chuck Hagel wants to cut the military budget more.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:52 PM
Apr 2013

Almost like wanting to do audit on the MIC.

Just sayin.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
33. Ricin probably has to do with gun control.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:59 PM
Apr 2013

It's the only link between the Senator and the President. Wicker had voted to end the initial filibuster so debate could proceed on the measure.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
37. Anything is possible in our era of corruption
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:10 PM
Apr 2013

Especially when no one will be held accountable if they're a member of the elite. If the theory were true, some suckers/lackeys would be picked to take the blame and the story would then be removed from the propaganda media.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
45. Just waiting on the anthrax....is it any wonder none of us believe much of anything?
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:42 PM
Apr 2013
I wear my hat proudly.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
47. This time it's "RICIN" and not the "ANTHRAX" but got your point
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:48 PM
Apr 2013

and they've tried "Bird Flu/Pandemics Predicted for Resistent Flu this year and it FAILED... But they won't give up. Maybe they will have to release that flaunted Biological Vault of the "Most Difficult Diseases to finally do the dead.

Just so you know...I once worked for a Major Private University in "Epidemiology and Public Health." The "Guys & Gals Upstairs" were working on Global Viruses...stuff from all over the world..and YES..it could be spread if it got into the wrong hands...and they at that time were working to keep this stuff from getting out of the "Box"

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
48. I know it's ricin, but it's early yet. And haven't you heard, bird flu is
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:50 PM
Apr 2013

spreading minus the bird...stay tuned. This shit is just starting to churn, AGAIN....

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
52. Oh Yes...Drag out the "Bird Flu" Devastating CHINA...spreading Here...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:15 PM
Apr 2013

They did this before...some years ago. It's good to pull that one "Outta' the Hat."

Huff Post must be filled with terror stories of "Celebrities with Boobs..falling to BIRD FLU!

Sorry for the SNARK...but, it's not impossible to imagine...is it?

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
54. And next will be puffy jacketed guys getting shot up in the subway...you see something, call someone
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:32 PM
Apr 2013

it just never ends. We've got nothing better to do, but to up the defense budget. Where's that barfing smilie?

What's worst is that the economy was toppled after these events...I'm not saying history repeats itself...but...this is getting ugly.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
55. i think I can understand what you are saying..
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:19 PM
Apr 2013

aside from the Puffy Jacketed Guys Getting Shot up in the Subway...but if I think about it longer...well Who Knows.

Not there yet...but there are definitely Quirky Things...going on where History Repeats...not Rhymes..but, Repeats...

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
58. Guys wearing heavy jackets were shot and killed in a London subway on suspicion of concealing bomb.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:07 AM
Apr 2013

It happened maybe in 2005? Turned out they were completely innocent, dead, but without bombs. It just seems this "terrorism" fear begets hate and paranoia, and more violence.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
59. Only Kevin Curtis
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:19 AM
Apr 2013

Because you're really adding 1 and 1 and getting 7.

Trying to weave everything together in some sort of grand narrative doesn't work in real life. There's a lot of randomness in real life.

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