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Quixote1818

(28,903 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 10:39 PM Apr 2013

Any thoughts on who might do an attack like this and not claim responsibility?



Usually if a major terrorist organization does a terrorist attack they claim responsibility right away. They are making a political or religious statement. So what type of personality or group would do this and not want anyone to know they did it? This strikes me more likely as domestic but I must admit it doesn't seem like a right wing homegrown group either. They usually hit Gov. buildings or property. It strikes me perhaps more as a nutty loan wolf or maybe two or three people with no other connections. That is purely my current hunch and I could be way off base.
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Any thoughts on who might do an attack like this and not claim responsibility? (Original Post) Quixote1818 Apr 2013 OP
Right now there are many possibiities. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2013 #1
one or more persons doing a test snooper2 Apr 2013 #2
This may be the most disturbing theory/scenario, snooper2... GReedDiamond Apr 2013 #16
I'm sure it's in their top 10... snooper2 Apr 2013 #20
I was thinking the same. n/t greytdemocrat Apr 2013 #79
Introverts! kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #3
Saddam's henchmen in Iran pettypace Apr 2013 #4
Internal attacks nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #5
Good post, you brought up a lot of the people I was already thinking about. Quixote1818 Apr 2013 #6
On the other hand, after looking it up, no one came forward after the 1993 Trade Center attack Quixote1818 Apr 2013 #18
No, but that broke pattern nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #22
Yes plus the patriotic day is not something a foreigner would be tuned into flamingdem Apr 2013 #9
April 15 is the anniversary of the start of the 1936 Arab Revolt in Palestine. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #13
Devils advocate and speculation nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #24
What exactly does 'internal' mean in this situation? Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #28
McVeigh didn't have time to claim it. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #30
There is usually a pattern where foreign organizations nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #34
Taking credit is definitely on the decline. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #40
I wonder if anyone has claimed it so far flamingdem Apr 2013 #45
I never understood the certainty people have that responsibility will always be claimed. Bonobo Apr 2013 #7
Or if you're a lone wolf.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #8
So that people understand what is being avenged? Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #10
I can't answer that, but... Bonobo Apr 2013 #17
I would agree if this was an attack on an individual. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #21
Not to go woo, but that's still my one doubt about Oswald Recursion Apr 2013 #61
I have a theory that the culprit will not be found ever flamingdem Apr 2013 #11
He'll get caught. It was a sloppy job and a good forensic team will Cleita Apr 2013 #14
Not chance. Very good forensics and investigations. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #42
"Someone" will be arrested & punished ... Myrina Apr 2013 #76
Anyone who doesn't want to go to prison. Cleita Apr 2013 #12
Someone who still wants to carry out more attacks. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #15
A foreign government, say North Korea, or possibly Syria? Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #23
Wary alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #27
Thank you for the grammar lesson. devilgrrl Apr 2013 #29
That's not grammar alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #43
Aw, yeah alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #44
Yes, diction, not grammar, as you pointed out anneboleyn Apr 2013 #54
I'm weary of being wary. nt Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #31
I'm a little wary of being weary alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #33
Word. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #65
Hair... SidDithers Apr 2013 #78
RW domestic terrorists here don't brag. They just lay low so they kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #25
"Usually if a major terrorist organization does a terrorist attack they claim responsibility..." alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #26
If you don't claim responsibility what's the point of the attack? Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #35
Yes, I understand the basic theory of claims of responsibility alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #37
The point of the attack. Straw Man Apr 2013 #56
Very good, and very true alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #67
Disrupting the economy and society Recursion Apr 2013 #62
Hamas and IJ did in the 2nd intifada Recursion Apr 2013 #60
They were trained enough by the older school PLO guys, I think alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #66
I compared it to Bakunin upthread but I think you're on to something there Recursion Apr 2013 #68
Interesting alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #69
Nut job militia groups ellisonz Apr 2013 #38
You have evidence of that? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #46
Hate? ellisonz Apr 2013 #50
That isn't evidence of bombing Boston. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #51
And no one has appointed you determiner of hatreds and motivations ellisonz Apr 2013 #63
*You* were willing to do so upthread... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #64
Your hatred is obvious. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #71
lol ellisonz Apr 2013 #81
Just you wait. The Feds will reach the same conclusion in time. morningfog Apr 2013 #70
What do you use to predict the future? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #72
Hang tight. You'll see. morningfog Apr 2013 #74
I am not holding my breath. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #82
Patience. morningfog Apr 2013 #85
Are you still blaming the RW, now that suspects have been killed and captured? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #86
Are you ready to retract your claim? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #87
No. And I don't really give a damn what you think. ellisonz Apr 2013 #90
The bombers themselves have claimed that was their worldview. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #91
And an "Islam worldview" = "Islamic terrorism" right? ellisonz Apr 2013 #93
Where do you buy your crystal balls? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #94
Jury says... Quantess Apr 2013 #95
Thanks. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #98
People Who Do It ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #39
I think it was Domestic terrorism Lane1340 Apr 2013 #41
Domestic terrorists MNBrewer Apr 2013 #47
Perhaps the bombing was an elaborate suicide attempt,,,, Oldfolkie Apr 2013 #48
Right wing nut jobs don't really care where they hit Nevernose Apr 2013 #49
Are you still blaming the RW, now that suspects have been killed and captured? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #92
I never blamed rw nutjobs. Not once. Nevernose Apr 2013 #101
personally I think it's a local nut Marrah_G Apr 2013 #52
Maybe there are plans for something bigger at a later date. Recovered Repug Apr 2013 #53
Glenn? Is that you? n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #55
Maybe some sadistic creep with an apartment overlooking the bombing site. Zorra Apr 2013 #57
RW domestic terrorists IMO.nt Raine Apr 2013 #58
Now do you see why most of the rest of us waited for more information? N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #89
I was WRONG, is that what you want to hear? I will say it again Raine Apr 2013 #96
Congrats on having integrity. Seriously, no sarcasm. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #99
Someone who blew himself up by accident Recursion Apr 2013 #59
That doesn't seem to be the case here. morningfog Apr 2013 #73
Two somebodies? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #75
Maybe it's more entertaining for them to sit back B2G Apr 2013 #77
Some low-life scumbag who was born here in the Yooooo-essss-ay SoCalDem Apr 2013 #80
Home grown terrorist gun nuts madokie Apr 2013 #83
Do you still stand by your accusation? N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #88
One of the better things in life is learning to admit when you are wrong madokie Apr 2013 #97
Congrats on having integrity. Seriously, no sarcasm. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #100
Someone who is not done killing yet /nt demwing Apr 2013 #84

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
1. Right now there are many possibiities.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 10:47 PM
Apr 2013

It could be a right-wing extremist group, could be Al Qaeda, could be a single lone wolf sympathizer of one or the other, could be an unstable person who hates the world because his girlfriend dumped him or he lost his job or he didn't qualify for the Boston Marathon. The terrorism experts I've heard seem to be saying that an individual is less likely to claim credit than a group with a political agenda, but if that's the case the individual's motivation could be just about anything.

We have to wait.

GReedDiamond

(5,299 posts)
16. This may be the most disturbing theory/scenario, snooper2...
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:23 PM
Apr 2013

...a "dry run" of a most insidious nature.

I had not even considered that option...I assume the investigators would!

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
20. I'm sure it's in their top 10...
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:26 PM
Apr 2013

that's why they are busy working many hours on the case and "everyone else" is spouting random shit on the Intertubes


kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
3. Introverts!
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 10:51 PM
Apr 2013

Shifty eyed bastards, they're always quietly hatching some plot or another. Alone, they're a menace. But together - well together they're still alone.

pettypace

(744 posts)
4. Saddam's henchmen in Iran
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:00 PM
Apr 2013

First thing came to my mind while watching Fox N...err I mean while diligently analyzing the nuances of the events.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Internal attacks
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:02 PM
Apr 2013

McVeigh did not claim it

Neither did the Atlanta bomber

Nor did the Unabomber until decades after the first attack

Just go research any of these, all preferably.

This is one of the reasons I am inclined to believe this is quite domestic

Quixote1818

(28,903 posts)
6. Good post, you brought up a lot of the people I was already thinking about.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:12 PM
Apr 2013

Guess we will have to see if we are thinking in the right direction or not?

Quixote1818

(28,903 posts)
18. On the other hand, after looking it up, no one came forward after the 1993 Trade Center attack
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:23 PM
Apr 2013


This makes me much less sure about who it might have been: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

flamingdem

(39,303 posts)
9. Yes plus the patriotic day is not something a foreigner would be tuned into
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:16 PM
Apr 2013

They would pick 9/11 or New Years.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
13. April 15 is the anniversary of the start of the 1936 Arab Revolt in Palestine.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:21 PM
Apr 2013

That might be significant to some people....


 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
24. Devils advocate and speculation
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:34 PM
Apr 2013

The Boston marathon is a global event that just happens to fall on patriots day.

I still think it's internal, alas this is speculation since none of us has access to any of the investigation.

I have tried, and, to remain firmly on what we know

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
28. What exactly does 'internal' mean in this situation?
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:40 PM
Apr 2013

For example, an American citizen for some reason decides to take up the cause of militant Islam. As part of his personal action for the cause he perpetrates a bombing similar to this one. Is that 'internal' or 'domestic' terrorism or something else?

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
30. McVeigh didn't have time to claim it.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:42 PM
Apr 2013

I'm not saying he would or wouldn't have.

Among his militia buddies he would have taken credit, surely, but who knows if he ever would have tried to send a public message. He was caught too quickly, before he would have had a chance to.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
34. There is usually a pattern where foreign organizations
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:45 PM
Apr 2013

Call news rooms...

Americans rarely do, or at least not since the early part of last century.

We had some claims with the Weathermen, but not since the anarchist syndicalist s way back, not really.

Which is odd...but that is the way it is.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
7. I never understood the certainty people have that responsibility will always be claimed.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:13 PM
Apr 2013

If revenge, rather than notoriety is the goal, why claim responsibility at all?

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
10. So that people understand what is being avenged?
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:18 PM
Apr 2013

How satisfying would it be if someone else took the credit for your attack and said it was because of some issue you had no interest in?

The lack of any one taking credit leads me to suspect an individual over a group. I think someone along the lines of the Unabomber is responsible and a manifesto or statement of purpose will probably be forthcoming.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
17. I can't answer that, but...
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:23 PM
Apr 2013

I can easily imagine that some hell-bent on revenge would be inwardly pleased whether they got credit or not.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
21. I would agree if this was an attack on an individual.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:27 PM
Apr 2013

In that case the victim is probably aware of who their attacker is, and that's the main thing when it's personal.

If you're so angry that you're willing to blow up lots of strangers you'll probably want people to know why.

Just my thoughts. Hope we have answers soon.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
61. Not to go woo, but that's still my one doubt about Oswald
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 03:26 AM
Apr 2013

Who shoots a President in front of thousands of people and then says "I didn't do it"?

flamingdem

(39,303 posts)
11. I have a theory that the culprit will not be found ever
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:18 PM
Apr 2013

because they've seen all the ways it happens and have planned ahead.

McVeigh was a nutjob and even then it was just chance that he got caught.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. He'll get caught. It was a sloppy job and a good forensic team will
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:21 PM
Apr 2013

find him. Let's just hope there are good and thorough investigators, not a sloppy ones, or he won't get caught.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
42. Not chance. Very good forensics and investigations.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 12:42 AM
Apr 2013

He was an amateur going up against the best pros in the world.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
76. "Someone" will be arrested & punished ...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:06 AM
Apr 2013

.... whether they turn out to be the TRUE guilty party, we may never know.

But as the cop said in "National Treasure": "Someone's gotta go to jail".

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. Anyone who doesn't want to go to prison.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:19 PM
Apr 2013

Or some out there militia types who have no respect for people who live mainstream lifestyles and imagine that they are at war with everyone whose trying to take their freedom from them.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
19. A foreign government, say North Korea, or possibly Syria?
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:24 PM
Apr 2013

Sending a message while maintaining plausible deniability?

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #32)

Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #33)

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
25. RW domestic terrorists here don't brag. They just lay low so they
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:38 PM
Apr 2013

can strike again. Unlike the Islamic terrorists, whose little egos seem to force them to crow about their misdeeds.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
26. "Usually if a major terrorist organization does a terrorist attack they claim responsibility..."
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:38 PM
Apr 2013

I don't know that that's true. Mostly, the whole "claim of responsibility" thing seems very old school terrorism, the old "liberation armies" of the 60's and 70's and the like.I don't associate claims of responsibility with contemporary terrorism.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
35. If you don't claim responsibility what's the point of the attack?
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:46 PM
Apr 2013

Terrorists have an agenda, one they feel so strongly about that they're willing to kill to advance it. An attack like this is expensive in terms of both resources and risk. If no one knows the reason for your attack then how does it help the cause? At that point you're just a common murderer, killing for no reason, and most terrorists don't see themselves as mere criminals.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
37. Yes, I understand the basic theory of claims of responsibility
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:53 PM
Apr 2013

Thanks for working through that for me.

Despite the very obvious notion of why people would claim responsibility, we can look again at whether people do claim responsibility in all or even most cases. There are plenty of attacks with no credible claims of responsibility. So there's that

Straw Man

(6,613 posts)
56. The point of the attack.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 02:41 AM
Apr 2013
Terrorists have an agenda, one they feel so strongly about that they're willing to kill to advance it.

The agenda is to cause as much damage as possible to civil society in order to punish it for its perceived misdeeds. This is not the old Red Army Faction style of terrorism, which had concrete short and long-term goals, like "Release Ulrike Meinhof from prison," or "Establish a Palestinian state." Nowadays, terror is the end rather than the means. I think it has to do with end-times apocalyptic fanaticism, which seems to be coming from all sides lately.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
62. Disrupting the economy and society
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 03:27 AM
Apr 2013

If the response is the goal, there's no need to claim responsibility.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
60. Hamas and IJ did in the 2nd intifada
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 03:25 AM
Apr 2013

But that may have just been to keep AQ from poaching on their own turf.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
66. They were trained enough by the older school PLO guys, I think
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:53 AM
Apr 2013

It's a dying art form, this claim of responsibility...

But seriously, I think there's something to non-claims. The claim of responsibility is premised on the singularity of the event - this event is a specific thing, a reprisal, a warning, or whatever. The new terrorist organizations know they can't get specific leverage from events - unlike the liberation armies of old, they don't consider events instructive but simply destructive. The old school liberation army types considered themselves teachers of the people: we need this terrorism to teach you to see things our way. From the Red Brigades to the Weathermen to the PLO and everybody in between, these groups believed that their acts could teach. So the acts are always accompanied by a discursive adjunct - the writing that goes along with the event, the explanation of the pedagogy of the attack.

The new terrorist organizations are completely detached from the people (they are terrorizing). They operate more in the mode of total war. The terrorist act for them is not a singular event with a teaching purpose, but simply another attack in a long and ongoing war. It would be as silly for them to claim responsibility for it as it would be for the Allies to claim responsibility for every bombing raid over Germany. You don't claim responsibility in an ongoing war, precisely because no attack stands on its own, and the attacks operate by attrition, not pedagogy. Once terrorism was transformed from the ideological groups seeking to instruct to the pure enemy conducting total (asymmetrical) warfare, the claim of responsibility declines as a rhetorical form. It's unnecessary. You're meant to know who's attacking you.

The old terrorism, ironically enough, sought persuasion, consensus; it was, in this sense, rhetorical. The new terrorism is purely coercive; it has no need of rhetoric, since it doesn't seek to persuade, but to force.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
68. I compared it to Bakunin upthread but I think you're on to something there
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:00 AM
Apr 2013

I still get a sense of propaganda of the deed, though; there are easier and less showy ways to kill people.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
69. Interesting
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:15 AM
Apr 2013

Yeah, I agree with you that there's still that slightest teaching function in the event itself. Good point.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
46. You have evidence of that?
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 12:48 AM
Apr 2013

Please call the FBI and give them you evidence. That you happen to hate a particular group is not evidence of any crime.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
51. That isn't evidence of bombing Boston.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 01:18 AM
Apr 2013

You have only shown that you are anxious to pin the blame on a group that you hate, to further your own agenda. A true progressive understands that all people and groups are innocent until proven guilty.

If you give the government the power to round up and eliminate those groups that you hate, don't be surprised if one day that government rounds you up.

I will post where I please. Nobody has appointed you as DU zampolit.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
71. Your hatred is obvious.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:54 AM
Apr 2013

You are ready to throw away the Fourth Amendment and other parts of the Constitution to prosecute those organizations that you hate. A true progressive realizes that to protect ourselves we have to also protect our enemies.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
72. What do you use to predict the future?
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:58 AM
Apr 2013

Crystal ball? Tarot cards? Tea leaves? I am stuck using mere logic, which says that there is not yet sufficient evidence.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
86. Are you still blaming the RW, now that suspects have been killed and captured?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:53 PM
Apr 2013

They have claimed that Islam is their worldview.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
87. Are you ready to retract your claim?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:56 PM
Apr 2013

Most of the rest of us waited for more information. When you rush to blame some group, without information, you run a very high risk of being wrong. It turns out that the bombers worldview was Islam.

ellisonz

(27,709 posts)
90. No. And I don't really give a damn what you think.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:05 PM
Apr 2013

It could very well be that their motivation was to draw attention to Chechen nationalism and not simply "the bombers worldview was Islam," in making such a claim, you throw yourself into the pool of people who are stupid enough to believe that this is some sort of cosmic battle with the "worldview" of "Islam."

Would you care to explain what makes you think that "the bombers worldview was Islam"

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
91. The bombers themselves have claimed that was their worldview.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:07 PM
Apr 2013

In case you haven't noticed, there has been a lot of Islamic terrorism, worldwide.

Are you still claiming that the bombers were a "nut job militia group"? Are you claiming that the wrong people were killed and captured?

ellisonz

(27,709 posts)
93. And an "Islam worldview" = "Islamic terrorism" right?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:11 PM
Apr 2013

These clowns today, your NRA-loving right-wing militias tomorrow.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
95. Jury says...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:34 PM
Apr 2013

At Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:21 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Are you ready to retract your claim?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2724940

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

"It turns out that the bombers worldview was Islam." = Sounds like right-wing desperation to pin this on "Islam" - this is the sort of language that Faux News and right-wing hate radio love - if this poster can refrain from dancing in the streets that this horrid act was not the work of the myriad of violent right-wing militia groups who have committed numerous acts of terrorism in this country and rather that of those durn Muslims he would be well-served rather than receiving the banishment that such simple, xenophobic and bigoted characterizations deserve.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:24 PM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The bombers worldview was Islam. That's true.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given

 

Lane1340

(20 posts)
41. I think it was Domestic terrorism
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 12:29 AM
Apr 2013

I also think it might not have been politically motivated. Could have been some hoodlums with nothing better to do.

Oldfolkie

(51 posts)
48. Perhaps the bombing was an elaborate suicide attempt,,,,
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 12:53 AM
Apr 2013

,,,,and the "perp" is among the wounded in a hospital somewhere.?

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
49. Right wing nut jobs don't really care where they hit
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 12:54 AM
Apr 2013

The fact that they "seem" to hit government buildings/property is probably more an artifact of our memories of dramatic events, like the IRS plane guy or OKC. I've posted this link a few times lately, and while there are plenty of government targets listed, not all are: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
92. Are you still blaming the RW, now that suspects have been killed and captured?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:10 PM
Apr 2013

Now you know why most of the rest of us waited for more information.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
101. I never blamed rw nutjobs. Not once.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:39 PM
Apr 2013

Just pointed out the possibility, as I also pointed out the possibility that it was religious-based terrorism.

Recovered Repug

(1,518 posts)
53. Maybe there are plans for something bigger at a later date.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 01:53 AM
Apr 2013

Maybe the perp was injured in the blast and doesn't want to make the call while still in the hospital.

Maybe a claim has been made and the police/FBI are denying it in the hopes that the perp gets pissed off and makes a mistake - ok, maybe I watch too many cop shows on that one.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
57. Maybe some sadistic creep with an apartment overlooking the bombing site.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 02:44 AM
Apr 2013

A violent loner living in a nearby apartment building, whose apartment has a clear view of the bombing site, getting his jollies by watching how his IED's are killing and maiming innocent people in real life.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
96. I was WRONG, is that what you want to hear? I will say it again
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:44 PM
Apr 2013

I WAS WRONG! The OP asked our thoughts and I gave an "IN MY OPINION" that was wrong but call me out ANYTIME my opinion is wrong because I am one who will ALWAYS admit it. So THANKS for giving me the opportunity I think it's good for a person to admit you're wrong.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
75. Two somebodies?
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:05 AM
Apr 2013

There were two bombs that went off, both were in pressure cookers. That rules out accidents.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
77. Maybe it's more entertaining for them to sit back
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:14 AM
Apr 2013

and watch us all try destroy the other side with wild accusations.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
80. Some low-life scumbag who was born here in the Yooooo-essss-ay
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:56 AM
Apr 2013

who might think he has been "done wrong", and is too cowardly to look inwardly.

The psychology of it is odd too, since doing it, and not claiming it, creates publicity for a "cause" they keep to themselves until they are caught..One would think that if a person was so overwrought about "something", and they resorted to killing unknown innocents to retaliate, that they would at least own up to it. Failing to do that, and keeping it as a nasty secret they never share, defeats their purpose (if they thought rationally).

madokie

(51,076 posts)
97. One of the better things in life is learning to admit when you are wrong
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:16 PM
Apr 2013

Of course I don't still stand by what I posted. I've been shown to have been wrong and I accept that.
peace

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