What Happened at Boston's JFK Library-- Fire Photo,Police Radio Alert.

[KoKo]

What Happened at Boston's JFK Library?
By J.K. Trotter | The Atlantic Wire – 22 hrs ago

What Happened at Boston's JFK …



In the chaos following a pair of explosions at the final stretch of the Boston Marathon Monday, a wild report suddenly appeared: another, possibly related explosion had gone off around 3 p.m. at the John F. Kennedy Library, located on the shore of the Boston Harbor, approximately 3.5 miles southeast of the initial explosions in Copley Square. (Check out the Wire's map to get situated with the geography of today's events.) But the "explosion" later turned out to be an unrelated mechanical fire. So how did the rumor of a third explosion spread?



A quick review of Twitter isolated the first report of an explosion at the library: a publicly available audio feed pulled from a police radio band employed by officers dispatched to downtown Boston. As personnel blanketed the area, an unnamed officer, speaking into his radio, described a "confirmed explosion" at the library's facility:

"We're going to need to deploy resources over [JFK Library] - confirmed explosion over there." - Boston PD scanner
— Seth Mnookin (@sethmnookin) April 15, 2013

Despite the off-the-cuff nature of police radios — they're used to organize and deploy personnel, not verify and promulgate news — the unconfirmed comment was quickly picked up:

Confirmed explosion at JFK Library: cmplx.it/ZlZxIH That's two uncontrolled, one controlled, JFK explosion control unconfirmed.
— Foster Kamer (@weareyourfek) April 15, 2013

Boston Police Scanner: confirmed explosion at JFK library
— Lee Stranahan (@Stranahan) April 15, 2013

Shortly thereafter, the director of the JFK Library told the Dorchester Reporter, a local newspaper, that the damage onsite "was confined to a mechanical room near the archive section of the library" and the library's Twitter feed described the damage as a "fire": ;

MORE WITH VIDEO OF DAMAGE AT THIS SITE:

http://news.yahoo.com/happened-bostons-jfk-library-002648282.html

[Octafish]

1. Damage 'was confined to a mechanical room near the archive section of the library'

If it were related, who would want to damage the JFK Library's archives?

[KoKo]

5. I did a lot of trying to figure this out...Google/Bing this A.M.

Because...I was listening to Live Coverage where a Network Reporter "down the street" heard a "Third Bang" and then the report came in it was from Kennedy Library. Then the story died...that it was Only Two Bombs...and then that Kennedy Library was just a "Maintenance Room Fire in Kennedy Library."

Does that photo look like a "contained (nothing to see there move along) "Maintenance Room Fire" at the Kennedy Library...in sequence with the first TWO bombings.

I have no idea what this is about...but it's still online but not mentioned by MSM ...like CNN/MSNBC at this time.

LOOK...it's good to check this out...and do your OWN Google/Bing/Yahoo Search for this news.

I heard this on MSM where the cops were going to JFK Library...then it was sort of "shut down" ...but digging says that "Boston Globe" did report this and the "Atlantic Wire" has now updated with photos.

Just saying. I think there's something to check out about this. Why isn't it being reported anymore.

[Octafish]

8. Good information is lacking.

Your judgement is more likely correct, KoKo, than the information it uses to process. Not me talking, it's Princeton.

That photo is shocking. It shows evidence of a major fire, an active conflagration inside a modern building as firefighters arrive on scene. What caused it, no one in authority has said -- if they know the cause or if they want to release the information.

As a now-old newspaper reporter, I am very much acquainted with the police scanner. Lots of times, that little voice of a police officer, fire dispatcher, or lost TV news crew that comes out all crackly represents the only solid bit of information on a story. Usually, it's the call to action for reporters on the City Desk and the cop beat. Other times, it's the most important lead needed to get the rest of the story.

OTOH: Consider the amount of noise, let alone mentality, of the woo-woo cryers who poo-poo any mention of news that falls outside the "acceptable" spectrum. The sheer volume of the derision means much, if not most, of the data going into the discussion from them is pure garbage. Why they contribute so much hot air and dull gas is clear, considering how often they manage to steer discussion and discourage analysis. It's a speciality of the Money trumps Peace crowd that's been getting away with murder since Nov. 22, 1963.

One thing I promise: I will do all I can to learn the facts and share them. Two question I immediately want to hear answered: If the fire at the JFK library was intentionally set, who did it? And why?

[KoKo]

14. Thanks...it "flagged to me" something was amiss....

This post will go to archives and I don't want to be flagged as some "conspiracy theorist" all I've posted is from MSM sites and what I heard I don't have time to dig up ...if it's still there.

So...yes...THANKS...if you can dig deeper..(and my links will track you back and give other links) to follow deeper ...as you know how to search.

I don't know where this goes...but, as an older DU'er having seen many things that deserved more investigation...this did seem to be an issue that deserves "more scrutiny."

For ANYONE WHO CAN DO IT...with more resources than mine!

[ellie]

29. Is it standard practice to locate the

mechanical room near the front door? I looked online and could not find a floor plan/layout of the building that indicated this. There is no reason for govt officials to lie about it, it's just weird. It is this inconsistency that gives rise to conspiracy theorists.

[KoKo]

7. Timing is close enough to "Bay of Pigs Invasion" 17 April 1961

KENNEDY? It hit me as "Interesting...Historically."

That some deranged soul...could have an agenda...to tie it ALL TOGETHER...

OR NOT! I don't know...just posting this because it flagged my interest. The dates of this...

" Bay of Pigs Invasion", known in Hispanic America as La Batalla de Girón, was an unsuccessful military invasion of Cuba undertaken by the paramilitary group Brigade 2506 on 17 April 1961. A counter-revolutionary military trained and funded by the United States government's Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Brigade 2506 fronted the armed wing of the Democratic Revolutionary Front (DRF) and intended to overthrow the revolutionary leftist government of President Osvaldo Dorticós Torrado. Launched from Guatemala, the invading force was defeated by the Cuban armed forces, under the command of Prime Minister Fidel Castro, within three days.

The Cuban Revolution of 1953 to 1959 had seen President Fulgencio Batista, a right-wing ally of the U.S., ousted. He was replaced by a new leftist administration dominated by Castro, which had severed the country's formerly strong links with the U.S. by expropriating their economic assets and developing links with the Soviet Union, with whom the U.S. was then embroiled in the Cold War. The U.S. government of President Dwight D. Eisenhower was concerned at the direction which Castro's government was taking, and in March 1960, Eisenhower allocated $13 million to the CIA in order to plan Castro's overthrow. The CIA proceeded to organize the operation with the aid of the Mafia and various Cuban counter-revolutionary forces, training Brigade 2506 in Mexico. Following his victory in the 1960 United States presidential election, John F. Kennedy was informed of the invasion plan and gave his assent to it.

1,400 paramilitaries, divided into five infantry battalions and one paratrooper battalion, had assembled in Guatemala before setting out for Cuba by boat on 13 April. On 15 April, eight CIA-supplied B-26 bombers attacked Cuban air fields before returning to the U.S., and on the night of 16 April, the main invasion landed at a beach named Playa Girón in the Bay of Pigs, initially overwhelming a local revolutionary militia. The Cuban Army's counter-offensive was led by Captain José Ramón Fernández, before Castro decided to take personal control of the operation. On 20 April, the invaders finally surrendered, with the majority of troops being publicly interrogated and then sent back to the U.S.

The failed invasion strengthened the position of Castro's administration, who proceeded to openly proclaim their intention to adopt socialism and strengthen ties with the Soviet Union, leading to the events of the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. The invasion was a major embarrassment for U.S. foreign policy, with Kennedy ordering a number of internal investigations. Across much of Latin America, it was celebrated as evidence of the fallibility of U.S. imperialism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

[arcane1]

2. It appears to have caught on fire.

[graham4anything]

3. Nothing happened but a small fire. But its seems its a altmedia conspiracy theorist delight

Conspiracy theories have no place in America.

Look what Timid McV. did after a group of extremists hoarding guns shot and killed federal agent and later burnt themselves down.
All those kids and people died in Oklahoma City by a conspiracy theorist.


Gov.Deval Patrick, whom I trust 100% as he has never lied to me, said quite clearly,
there was NO detonated explosion.

BTW, as in all fires, we salute the good union firemen, police, and EMS who think nothing of themselves as they time and again race to the scene, and enter, never thinking of their own lives, doing their job.

[ChangeUp106]

4. Damage

Were any documents destroyed?

[KoKo]

6. No Further Reports...but the Pic that I posted is NEW...

when I was Searching this a.m.... there wasn't the photo that's there now. But, if you read the report this was just a "Maintenance Room Fire" that apparently was "put out"....so nothing to see there anymore.

A question on the Atlantic Wire Web Site...had question about "JFK Library" ..."Closed to Comments."

When the Boston Police Commissioner was the First to Report "Third Site..at JFK Library" on MSM I did wonder...which is why I followed up.

As of the latest report on Chris Matthews Tonight...there was no mention of "Fire at JFK Library" which was in time frame of "concern" with the first two Bombings. And then the NBC Reporter who was online reporting the "THIRD BOOM" which was audible in the "feed."

I'm just telling you what I watched and and the reports and indie Google/Bing...searching for more.

I'm NOT some "Conspiracy Nut." I'm giving you what I heard watching the Breaking Coverage ...and when reporting died...I did my OWN SEARCHES.

Make of it what you will... I just did digging and had questions...which I'm putting out here.

[ChangeUp106]

9. Interesting

Was just wondering if anything got destroyed like oh I don't know, stuff dealing with his assassination.

[KoKo]

11. I wouldn't go that far at this point...I just want to know why that

"Fire at JFK Library" which from the photo shows was impressive and Bomb Like (not an internal fire that the "sprinklers would have doused) is now posted there?

I'm just saying the "lock down on this after the Boston Police Commissioner got reports to send Crews over there and he Reported this in his First Press Conference Yesterday ...now has NO MENTION in MSM. Maybe he "mispoke...so overwhelmed with the Event and his Police People rushed to judgement about the JFK Fire and it doesn't connect with what they felt was the "Meat of the Bombings" so they left it.

I'm just saying I thought it was interesting that Boston Police Commisioner reported this...and then it died...but that it's still alive with "updaed pics on the website I linked" which is NOT a "Conspiracy Website" banned here on DU.

I just wanna know about that JFK Library BURN... WHERE is the REPORTING that YOU HAVE SEEN on IT?

Mainstream Media? Please give a link.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. The mechanical room has equipment

That can explode.

As a former responder I hated responding to these kinds of fires...at times they went boom

[KoKo]

12. But, is it not INTERESTING that this was in same Time Frame..

of the Bombings? And that a MSM Reporter "on the scene" and his Video Team recorded a Third Boom?

The article I linked said that this area was updated in 2011...so it wasn't Old Equipment that just Exploded and caused the Fire...unless they had cheap imported parts from China in their "UpDate."

Nadin...are you a "Certified Fire Fighter?" Are you aware of New Equipment in a high powered facility like 'THE KENNEDY LIBRARY?"

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. I was

And while it is a hell of a coincidence...shit does happen, even with new equipment.

Your other choice is a government coverup.

[KoKo]

15. Shit does Happen...and it deserves a look...

as to what you say about what you said. Don't drag me into that stuff. That isn't what my post is about...

And you know that...

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. I am sure they did take a good look

From covering many a news story early reports tend to not match

Yes, that is a fully involved fire, but sometimes a cigar is a cigar

[KoKo]

17. Nadin...sorry ...don't get impression you read article and looked at the

Photo to verify this is Mainstream.

The FIRE at JFK library Occurred...whether it was EARLY in News Report or Not.

Are you saying the Fire in JFK Library Never Happened? Is that what you are saying...without reading the article? Looking at the photo doing SOURCE SEARCH?

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. It happened

The report of the explosion also happened, over scanner even. FD did their investigation diligence, probably found it was a mechanical reason. They can find this pretty fast by the way.

Any other day it would have led the news, locally. You have a major emergency going on, not related to the explosions downtown...it drops off the coverage.

Reporter is likely frustrated by the editorial decision, or not being downtown...but likely a cigar is a cigar, they got a fire, they got an explosion, they got a non device related cause...that's the end of it.

Been on a few of those myself.

[KoKo]

19. Thanks Nadin from your "report on the ground" from Boston.

's.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. It's not a report from the ground

It is knowledge of how this shit works.

Any other day...it would have led local news, probably national if it was a slow nooz day.

[KoKo]

21. Okay...I'll trust your media judgement on this....

I know nothing... I'm just a poster here on DU...with an anonymous background that I don't reveal. Okay...

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Whatever

I will not join you where you want to go...have a good one.

Good bye

[KoKo]

23. Kidk for Background....for futher investigations

[KoKo]

24. another....

[Skip Intro]

25. This, the American Airlines groundings, the ricin letter - could all be connected

to the bombings at the marathon. We may well be being kept in the dark about a lot of what has happened. No way to know at this point, but the timing is hard to ignore.

[KoKo]

28. Indeed...

I had forgotten about AA grounding. The first I heard of it was on DU then I checked the link and sure enough the system was "intermittently" having outages. (I have close relative who is AA Pilot) so I'm familiar with the link the DU'er gave. I haven't heard from my relative yet but he was flying yesterday or grounded. He will probably have the scoop.

But, yes all those incidents together are certainly curious as a repeat of something many of us who lived through "9/11" remember from that time. creepy.

[Skip Intro]

30. The similarities are creepy.

Please post back to this this thread, at least, when you hear form your pilot relative.

[cali]

26. Excellent, informative OP, koko. thanks.

Does the photo jibe with the story about the fire being confined to a mechanical room?

[KoKo]

27. That's why I posted the photo.

Sure does seem to me more than a "maintenance room fire." Plus there are videos there about the reports.

It's not conspiracy theory that this happened at JFK library and the timing would be concerning to those investigating. Whether it was coincidence or not... I was watching MSNBC or CNN when the the reporter heard the third boom. And, folks at the library also heard it. But, as of yesterday the MSM/Cable was saying only two bombs and booms was the official finding.

I'm glad to see from your report that it's being investigated.

[proverbialwisdom]

31. More.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/About-Us/News-and-Press/Press-Releases/Statement-on-Fire-at-the-John-F-Kennedy-Presidential-Library-and-Museum.aspx
http://www.jfklibrary.org/About-Us/News-and-Press/Press-Releases/Statement-on-Conclusion-of-Fire-Investigation-at-the-JFK-Library.aspx

https://www.facebook.com/JFKLibrary