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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums2 men removed from United flight from Boston to Chicago
The men were questioned by authorities and returned to the plane, only to be removed again after at least one passenger complained they were acting "suspicious," the passengers said after they arrived at O'Hare International Airport. Spokesmen for the airport and airline declined comment.
But Siok, who also finished the marathon Monday, said he and others began to notice the two men acting "suspicious" after they were allowed back on the plane. The men, who were rows apart, began talking in a different language and apparently using head gestures and their hands to communicate, he said.
More at http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-2-men-removed-from-united-flight-from-boston-to-chicago-20130416,0,2819138.story
Just passing on what I read.
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)When anyone and everyone without Lilly white skin was a member of Al Queda and plotting our destruction. People are on edge I suppose.
still_one
(92,061 posts)Earth_First
(14,910 posts)How unfortunate.
Of course, the media is complicit in this in their rush to blame "Saudi nationals" as being repsonsible.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Bucky
(53,947 posts)No, wait... they were gesturing? With their HANDS?!! This is America, you so-called visitors! We only gesture with our mouths, the way God intended!!
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Has left me looking very middle eastern
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)I once told someone I was 1/4 Korean. The first words out of their mouth was "North?" ... I think my mouth dropped open for a few moments.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Xenophobia is so ridiculous.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Wait till the 24th Century.. it will be Romulans, Klingons, Vulcans, Cardassians, Ferengi, Betazoids, Andorians, Bandi, Bajoran, Borg, Denebian, Breen, Galadorans, Hortas, Gorns, Jem'Hadar, Talosians, Tellarites, Tholians, Trills, Troyians, Vorgons, and a ton more of aliens..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_races
TimberValley
(318 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)who knows..what was in their heads.
MattBaggins
(7,897 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)and never learned to speak Korean. Japanese I can speak some what. Not as well as I would like.. but there is always room for improvement.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Imagine that!
Renew Deal
(81,846 posts)niyad
(113,055 posts)sitting in the same row with siok, who didn't even notice him.
this is beyond disgusting. what, exactly, were these men doing that was "suspicious"?? actually, the talking another language apparently didn't occur until after they had been removed and interrogated by the fbi. so what, exactly, were they doing beforehand?
wow--they were talking to each other across an aisle!! WITH THEIR HANDS!!! (guess no italians are going to be allowed to fly anymore??)
this thing some people have about others speaking another language has always pissed me off. Growing up, it sounded like the tower of babel around me, didn't bother me in the least, still doesn't. My best friend and I made up a language in high school,mixed up with latin, which we used whenever we were in public. Quel horror!!
at least some of the comments after the article were intelligent.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Different language indeed.
niyad
(113,055 posts)irritating and painful, so many of them do it so poorly.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)That being said, I've heard more Brits complain about the accents of their fellow Brits
than I've heard Americans complaining about the varying accents of their countrymen.
Just sayin'
niyad
(113,055 posts)day in, day out. I wasn't talking ACCENTS, I was talking about how poorly many americans use what is supposed to be their native language (and this includes news readers on local tv stations). reading comprehension seems to be lacking in many, as well as the ability to write something approaching comprehensible english (some of the stuff that passes for "journalism", let alone fiction, is almost beyond belief.)
whathehell
(29,034 posts)makes it sound very much like fact and if your reverence for the English language
is what you claim, I would imagine you'd be aware of that.
So sorry you disapprove of our way of speaking, but pray tell, what obligates you
to listen to our "crap" as you so politely put it?...Do you live in the States?
If so, you might recall the old saying "you can't go home again" and then erase it
from your mind. If not, why on earth do you "have to" endure the horror of Americans
speaking?...Do you lack a switch to turn off whatever listening device you're using?
My second question relates to the concept of courtesy and it is this:
Do you REALIZE that you are on an American-based board with a membership rate that is likely
95 percent American, with that, most would agree, making you something of a "guest" here?
My feeling, and it IS shared by many here, is that this forum is about POLITICS, specifically American politics,
and given that we're generous enough to allow foreigners, not only their opinions but in some
cases their own forums, we'd appreciate their not abusing the situation by taking
gratuitous swipes at us at every opportunity.
Thanks so much, and do have a nice day!
niyad
(113,055 posts)I find it interesting that you believe only non-natives can find the linguistic abuses annoying, irritating and displeasing. too bad we don't have a prof. higgins moment for this, to help you understand:
proper use of language (whichever language it is) makes discussion easier.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)That's a tad inappropriate, wouldn't you say?...Or are you so pathetically
elitist, such an Anglophile, you've decided you're not really "one of us", LOL?
You see, dear, if you actually knew anything about Britain, or the language patterns
of cultures, generally, you'd know that EVERY society possesses
a "vernacular", a slang vocabulary, and that it can deviate substantially from the standard.
Maybe checking out the example I gave Lantern Waste will help you understand.
Failing that, I'd suggest you either get out more, or take a Linguistics course.
P. S. The video, accompanied by a suggestion of some need to "understand"
on my part is rich. You see, dear, not only did my Graduate Record Examinations
rank my language skills as superior (92nd percentile) but I've made a successful living as a writer.
Have a nice day.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I absolutely agree. I have a much easier time at the office understanding my co-workers who have taken ESL courses than I do many of my domestic-born co-workers who speak as if taught English by a trout.
"It's like, uh, y'know... bein' like dissed by y'now, da man. How yew doon?"
whathehell
(29,034 posts)'cept wha ya naw tellin' us is how full of shite thu pooh buggeh is who won'
tell ya how bad so many uh 'em cockneys and Gawdees speak as well,
and blimey if it ain't accordin' tu their own!
whathehell
(29,034 posts)and if you lived here and realized how VERY diverse this country is,
racially, ethnically, religiously, I think you'd realize your mistake.
My spouse and I fly in and out of O'Hare in Chicago on a regular basis.
Up until very recently, it was the largest airport in the country
and one hears EVERY imaginable "accent" and language imaginable.
Boston is also very diverse, and became even more so last weekend
because of the plethora of international visitors who came for the Marathon.
mucifer
(23,478 posts)Anyway, I wasn't there on the plane so I don't know why people were afraid. I think it's difficult to know for sure what happened unless you were there.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)I just thought it was misplaced.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)to anyone but certain native peoples indigenous to South Boston.
The use of a rare form of sign language is also commonly practiced among certain groups present among the native peoples indigenous to South Boston.
A good friend of mine is a native of South Boston, and he frequently slips between the English and South Bostonese languages. For some unknown reason, this most often occurs when we are trading beers and shots of tequila in the local cantina.
Sometimes, when no matter how hard I try, I cannot understand what he is saying, I ask his wife, also a dear friend, who understands South Bostonese fairly well, what he is trying to say. Her normal reply to this question is "How the fuck should I know?". Whereupon my friend from South Boston raises his right hand with a South Boston sign language gesture, and the cantinero, a kindly and much loved Mexican man who speaks no English, but who understands a bit of South Bostonese sign language, smiles, and brings us another round.
To all the folks in Boston.
Cheehs!