Odds: Boston bombs of domestic origin and likely set off by cell phone.

[skip fox]

Odds based on:

Minor explosives.

No foreign entities taking credit.

The ca. six-second interval (I counted) between blasts is just the amount of time to make a second call after hanging up after the first blast/call..

[uponit7771]

1. From listening to MSNBC this has the signature of white supremist bomb making seeing that 3 others

...in the past were of similar nature

I wish I would have recorded the segment


FAUX news is trying to point to a Saudi National man...which now turns out to be a woman who was running from the bomb site AFTER the bombs exploded and was tackled by someone who thought she (he) looked suspicious..

Makes me further believe this was an act of a winger

[justiceischeap]

5. And this Saudi National man just happened to be a female doctor according to news reports

I saw.

[treestar]

9. Thing about white supremacists

What is their motive for choosing this place to attack? There were flags of many countries there, maybe a xenophobic element to it.

[winter is coming]

13. You know what else was there? TV cameras, and a ready-made crowd of victims. n/t

[treestar]

14. Good point

[Botany]

2. as of now this random speculation

n/t

[skip fox]

3. of course, but not quite random (by definition) . . .

But let me add further sepeculation: a single individual (because of the making of two calls).

Of course the individual may not be a U.S. citizen, but seems to have no ties to a terrorist group. (Explaining the poor ordinance and lack of foreign groups taking credit.)

[Benton D Struckcheon]

4. Bloomberg's security guy said the presence of the ATF in the investigation...

...signals that the bombs were of domestic manufacture. That prima facie points to a domestic terrorist, but of course doesn't make it certain.

[Gman]

6. I concede that there is an outside chance

That it could be Islamist extremists. Possibly because of some of the things happening in Africa with the French and our assistance in those matters.

But this becomes less and less likely as time goes by and no one overseas takes credit. I think the biggest reason to discount Islamists is this was a very "amateur" job. One thing AQ does well is build bombs to kill people. Very simply if there was an Islamist connection the bombs would have gone off two hours earlier and with a lot more force killing a lot more people. Ask anybody that's been to Iraq or Afghanistan.

So who else? Radical liberals (LOL!). As I pointed out last night in a heated argument, that went out in the 70's with the Simbionese Liberation Army. Today's liberals are of a totally different mindset that does not include violence. My friend responded pointing out the Animal Liberation Front, to which I responded, "What? Seriously? This? You're grasping for straws here."

That leaves teabaggers. And I'm quite confident the FBI has been on that notion for a good 18 hours now.

I just am very curious what their Free Republic screen names are.

Lets not forget to check FR ASAP after we know the names before RimJob can scrub them.

[Dash87]

7. I think it's probably a lone religious extremist.

Possible Al-Qaeda sympathizer. It could also be a lone-wolf psycho who wasn't politically motivated, like for example the Aurora theatre shooter.

[cali]

8. nope. timer not cell phone.

[skip fox]

17. I'm unclear about this.

Does "circuit board" mean timer necessarily? Or can some circuit be used with the cell phone set up?

[HereSince1628]

10. The timeframe is established as 6 seconds? I thought it was 20 seconds.

[skip fox]

16. News reportred 12 seconds, then 22 second, but

if one times it, it's slightly less than 6.

[TheMadMonk]

11. Something else: look at the nature of the injuries.

These bombs were intended to MAIM FOR LIFE not kill.

[cali]

12. they were intended to kill and maim as many as possible and killing was definitely the aim

It's just ridiculous to claim the intent wasn't to kill. that so few were killed is due in large part to the fact that this happened with medical personnel, a medical tent, wheelchairs, ambulances and three world class level 1 trauma centers within blocks.

[FarCenter]

15. And some of Boston's large community of medical personnel were bystanders who rushed to assist

[TheMadMonk]

18. EXACTLY! Severed limbs, whilst horific in nature, are in fact injuries...

...that are relatively easily stabilised for evacuation and traumatic amputation, counter-intuitively, can be stabilised more easily still.

A typical fragmentation bomb sprays a lot of small shrapnel in all direction creating a multitude of puncture wounds.

These bombs SEVERED in a horizontal plane.

These bombs almost certainly ANTICIPATED an effective medical response.

It might have been better to explicitly say DEATH was NOT the PRIMARY intent. The primary intent was horrific lifelong injury.

I know Hanlon's Razor ("do not assign to malice...&quot tells us one thing, but I just plain do not want to consider that these exact results could have been achieved through sheer incompetence.