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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 08:53 AM Apr 2013

The Gold Collapse Is Personally Costing Ron Paul A Fortune

http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-investment-gold-2013-4

A few weeks ago, we figured out what was happening to the Ron Paul portfolio — the former Texas congressman's 64% investment in gold and other rocks — and it wasn't pretty.

His portfolio is comprised of major miners and a handful of juniors, and displays a marked lack of diversification.

Investment manager William Bernstein told the Wall Street Journal that “This portfolio is a half-step away from a cellar-full of canned goods and nine-millimeter rounds.”

Newmont Mining Company: –37.29%
Goldcorp Holdings: –34.64%
Barrick Gold: –48.17%
Agnico Eagle Mines : –35.78%
Allied Nevada Gold Corp: –68.48%
Alumina Common: +6.32%
Anglo Gold Ashanti Ltd. –44.13%
BrigusGold Corp. Com MPV: –39.18%
Claude Resources Inc: –56.39%
Coeur D'Alene Mines Corp: –47.21%
Hecla Mining Co: –47.74%
El Dorado Gold Corp: Not Listed
IAM Gold Corp: –65.40%
Kinross: – 44.11%
Lexam Explorations Inc: – 57.57%


***may he know from being destitute.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-investment-gold-2013-4#ixzz2Qd8pPZas
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The Gold Collapse Is Personally Costing Ron Paul A Fortune (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2013 OP
Ain't that just too bad! hobbit709 Apr 2013 #1
It's still very high adigal Apr 2013 #2
Gold is the ultimate fiat currency. dawg Apr 2013 #3
good dembotoz Apr 2013 #4
the gold saga shows that speculators have the sadim touch srican69 Apr 2013 #5
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Arkana Apr 2013 #6
Thanks for posting a list of potential "buy" opportunities for people who have a reserve of cash slackmaster Apr 2013 #7
Only costs him a fortune if he sells. cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #8
came in to post this Lawlbringer Apr 2013 #9
gold was like $500 an ounce before bush's insane actions around the world samsingh Apr 2013 #10
I never understood why gold would be so supposedly valuable if society collapses arcane1 Apr 2013 #11
Presumptively a paper loss at this point. ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #12
All Assets Go Up and Down Yavin4 Apr 2013 #13
Unlike seniors and others duped by Glenn Beck NewJeffCT Apr 2013 #14
Shall we take up a collection or open a PayPal account to donate? catbyte Apr 2013 #15

dawg

(10,624 posts)
3. Gold is the ultimate fiat currency.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 09:12 AM
Apr 2013

It's just a pretty yellow metal with *some* uses, but not all that many due to it's softness. The only reason it has the extreme value it does, is that people choose to invest it with that value as a means of exchange. As people's perceptions of that value change, so does the value of gold. It fluctuates, just like those hated fiat dollars.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
5. the gold saga shows that speculators have the sadim touch
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 09:18 AM
Apr 2013

Gold was a low volatile ie low risk investment that was illiquid. ...until speculators got in to the act...the have tons of money and they'll stop at nothing till they have bankrupted everyone

They always claim that they make an asset more liquid this serving the market...It's time someone call their bluff...all they do is create bubbles where none could exist...and ordinary folks who buy into the hype are left holding the Shit bag...


Disclaimer..the only gold I have is the jewelry I bought for my wife..so nothing personal here

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
9. came in to post this
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 09:57 AM
Apr 2013

As much as I want to laugh at gold hoarding, he probably bought it before the discovery of the new world. So at this point, anything is a significant increase. Just not as much of an increase as it was before all of this.

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
10. gold was like $500 an ounce before bush's insane actions around the world
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 10:08 AM
Apr 2013

so I would think it's still overvalued. but who knows

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
11. I never understood why gold would be so supposedly valuable if society collapses
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 10:16 AM
Apr 2013

It's useless. Hell, aluminum foil would be more valuable, because you can actually use it!

Yavin4

(35,433 posts)
13. All Assets Go Up and Down
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 10:21 AM
Apr 2013

Pick any year or time period, and I can also say that asset x was a bad investment. If this was Feb. 2009, we'd all be saying the same thing about stocks.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
14. Unlike seniors and others duped by Glenn Beck
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 10:37 AM
Apr 2013

and similar shysters promoting gold, Paul can afford to hold on to the gold until he either recovers his losses, or else suck it up and take the loss of part of his investment.

If he was worth $10 million before this "collapse" of gold, he's worth what, $8 million now? That's still $8 million. And, he can take the $2 million loss off of his income taxes.

If Ma Kettle invests $1000 of her social security money in gold and it drops to be worth $800, she's a lot more hurt a lot more overall than Paul.

I'm guessing that Paul has had a lot of his gold since before St. Ronnie became president - when gold was $200 something/ounce instead of whatever it is now.

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