Sorry...if it was a Saudi or Muslim, it would be a headline already.

[Atman]

They were finding Saudi passports in the streets of NY before the dust settled.

Another thing wrong with this; after 9-11, the evil terrorists just blow up a couple trash cans? It doesn't smell right.

It smells like tea.

[cali]

1. wow. the 100th op blaming teabaggers. that's original.

not.

It could be anyone or any group.

And gee, could it be that they didn't find passports because no one crashed a plane into the Marathon with the resulting flotsam and jetsam?

[Atman]

5. You know as well as I do...

If this was a "terrorist" attack by some Muslim group, the govt. would be excited as hell to tell us so. I thank you for your concern, though.

[cali]

9. no. I don't know that. If this was bush, yeah, but it's not.

Janet Napolitano is head of Homeland Security.

And no, I'm not concerned. If I see something a regard as a steaming pile of shite, I call it what I see it.

and lots of people here are excited as hell to tell us that it's teabaggers. Perfect symmetry with freepfuckville where they're thrilled to tell you it's Islamic radicals. People want to blame those they perceive to be the "evil other".

I have confidence that they'll find out who did this. They've got both unexploded bombs and fragments and there were cameras everywhere.

And yes, I have to confess that for a host of reasons I'd rather that it was the militia/teabaggers than Islamic radicals, but of course, there is no way of knowing who perpetrated this and the public has very little info.

[Atman]

11. Did I say anything different?

I said it doesn't smell right. Yes, I said it smells like tea, which it does. I'm not claiming to have solved the case. I'm saying it wasn't a very spectacular event in terms of a follow-up to WTC or Spain or London.

You can ascribe all sorts of things to my post, thank you. I'm as much entitled to my perceptions and observations as are you.

[Shankapotomus]

24. Why are you supporting

Right Wing Terrorist Bombers? Why?

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. I'm going to have to go with cali in this case

It could be anything ranging from a wacked out teenager, to an organized militia, to a guy angry about a divorce, to a religious cult we never heard of, to lone operator al Qaeda type. It literally could be anyone at this point. While I'm not averse to the speculation, it is simply a parlor game. These things tend to have unexpected conclusions, in any case.

[Agschmid]

13. Yup. n/t

[uponit7771]

38. You're right, they've been smart and stable part of society...no need to look their way

[cali]

40. lol cuz that's just what I said, right? bzzzzt. gigantic fail.

I said nothing of the kind.

[pipoman]

2. Or maybe they need to have the perps in custody

before they say what nationality the person/people were so no more Saudi doctors are tackled in the street by bigoted heroes?

[Buzz Clik]

4. +1

[Buzz Clik]

3. This was timed for death, injury, and terror but minimal of all.

90 minutes earlier, and you can multiply by 5 the destruction in human terms. The race was nearly over. The elite runners had been gone for hours. The crowd had thinned.

[Atman]

7. Exactly.

Not a very "spectacular" follow-up if this was by the supposed terrorists who attacked the US in 2001.

[bigtree]

14. but then you can imagine that security was tighter at that point

. . . and it may have been impossible for the bomber to access that particular spot until the crowd had thinned out.

Doesn't look planned out to the bomber's advantage, but that ineptness could come from ANYONE unfamiliar with the site and security -foreign or domestic. I'd think a foreign terrorist would have plans and such from whoever sent them, but events could have prevented them from taking full advantage of the scene.

I thought the presence of the international media at that spot and the international row of flags was of interest.

[pecwae]

8. You know

that the POTUS asked that we wait before jumping to conclusions. Yet, here you are doing just that. It's exactly like FReepers claiming Islamists fundamentalists did this heinous deed. Generalizations go many ways and right now isn't the time for them unless, of course, the entire reasoning for doing so is that one can claim extraordinary "insight" should the prediction prove true. Weak sauce, weaker humanity.

[Atman]

10. I'm just saying it doesn't smell right.

You can jump to any conclusions you want. From four airliners flying into buildings to a couple backpacks in trash cans. Hmmm.

[pintobean]

16. You're using a lack of information

to eliminate possibilities and support your unfounded suspicion. Sorry, that doesn't smell right.

[Atman]

17. Just the opposite...I'm using the information available to me, not a lack thereof.

Again, I don't see how it is any different than you saying I have no information...you are making your judgements, I'm making mine, based upon what I know. And I know that this sure doesn't have the markings of a big planned terrorist attack from the terrorists who supposedly brought down the WTC with airliners. That's all. Why make such a big deal about it. I'm just one person, as are you. Last I checked, we are both free to look at this situation and suppose anything we want.

[bigtree]

12. dunno

. . . this administration is professional. Might be nothing to be gained by allowing some group to claim responsibility; as it's likely some already have. Evidence could be inconclusive. Might be value in not letting one know they're under watch . . .

Or, it could be a domestic group or individual.

One thing for sure . . . .they've got more to do than filling out the narrative for us right now. Could be that they're stymied.

[green for victory]

15. If it was the father of a child that was drone bombed by "accident" do you think

we would hear it?

[sharp_stick]

18. Well that's solved then

so many experts, so many groundless opinions.

So far I've heard that it's a right wing Waco supporter, an Afghan / Pakistani response to drone attacks, a direct Al Queda small scale attack, tea baggers pissed at having to pay taxes, supporters of Tim McVeigh, white power wackos and a front for potential bank robberies.

Maybe actually waiting at least a day or so for the cops to do their work would be advantageous but since when has that every shut up the ever present keyboard experts.

[Atman]

22. So you've read differing opinions. Hmmm....

I've seen ninety differing opinions on various newz shows. So the paid pundits are allowed to speculate, but Joe Citizen is not? Thanks for your input.

[bushisanidiot]

19. It's sloppy enough to be tea for sure.

.

[Atman]

20. BTW, for those of who didn't see my post yesterday...

My emotions are a bit high, I admit. My son works within the "crime scene." He won't be returning to work today, and wasn't even allowed to leave his office until late last night. He was two blocks away and felt the blast. He was afraid, and as a parent, I was afraid. And helpless. We were in Boston Sunday afternoon for his birthday. We hugged and said goodbye, and drove home to the bucolic Connecticut farmland. It freaked me out to think that it could have been the last hug.

Don't y'all get your panties in a wad because Atman doesn't think this appears to be a big organized terrorist attack. I'm just offering my personal observation.

As a maybe darkly humorous aside: Shortly after the WTC attack we were in Boston enjoying some oysters and chowda at Legal Seafoods at the Prudential Center...the iconic tall building in Boston. The base of the building, as in most big venues like this, is a mega tourist mall full of fancy shoppes and eateries. It was a beautiful sunny day. As we sat next to a big glass wall overlooking the promenade, 52 stories below the viewing deck above, the alarm system in the entire mall went off. A computerized voice ordered everyone to stop what they were doing and leave the premises immediately. Over and over, like a scene from the Andromeda Strain. "EVACUATE THE BUILDING." The horns were blaring and the lights flashing. Keep in mind, this was barely a month after the WTC attack. And we're sitting in the bottom of the second-tallest building in Boston, just a short distance from NYC.

NO ONE MOVED. No one put down their $11 cup of famous New England clam chowder. No one stopped slurping oysters. The alarms blared and the computerized voice ordered us to leave, and no one moved. My wife and I even joked about it...if this building is coming down on our heads, what's the point of standing out on the sidewalk? I'd rather go out with a bowl of excellent clam chowder!

NO ONE MOVED.

Not a month after 9/11, in Boston...no one moved. Lots of people in the mall ran outside. But in the restaurant it was like "Meh...fire alarm. I'm going to finish my expensive meal." Of course, we could have run out on the check, right? Nah...bad karma.

I think I'd react differently today. Forgive me my rant. Boston is my hometown, my boy lives and works there...I have a perspective that might be skewed, I admit. But that's all it is. My perspective.

[slackmaster]

21. I think the smart money is on "They don't know yet."

[Atman]

23. I'm with you on that.

[slackmaster]

26. It may take several weeks. People are always eager for a quick answer and a fast bust.

Understandably; but if the person or people who did this covered their tracks well, it could take a very long time for the FBI to literally put the pieces together and start following up on leads.

If just mundane, commonplace materials were used in construction of the bombs, the task will be extremely difficult.

[JDPriestly]

25. It could be anyone.

Sandy Hook was a kid who didn't fit in. It only takes one crazy person who is angry to do something like this. It could have been political, any of the many overly hyped points of view could have been held by the perpetrator. But we don't have any information that permits us to even guess at who or what caused this yet.

[Johnny2X2X]

27. Black Powder

I've read a couple places now that the explosive may have been simple black powder. Available to virtually anyone.

When I was a teen, in my quest to make cooler fire crackers, we made some little explosive devices with black powder, stuff was pretty effective, we'd crimp little sections of an old tent poll with black powder inside, not much, maybe a table spoon and add a fuse. Made for a cheaper version of a M-80.

The fact that both explosions were on the same side of the street hints at maybe a single suspect too. Pretty impossible to cross the street during a marathon finish. If they were on opposite sides of the street it would have strongly suggested multiple suspects to me.

[Atman]

32. Me too.

When I was fifteen, we used to be able to buy cans of black powder at the gun shop. We'd take a car battery and a spool wire, go out to some empty land, pour some powder into a hole in the ground, and blow shit up. Pretty easy to do. That's what this looked like. Pretty unsophisticated for "terrorists."

[demwing]

28. The reason that it smells like Tea

are simple ...

It happened in Boston, and on Patriots Day. This may not have been a Tea Party attack, but the intended Tea Party symbolism is clear. Someone is (or wants us to believe they are) unhappy with the government, sees tyranny in Washington, and imagines themselves the savior of freedom.

[The2ndWheel]

29. Unhappy with the government

sees tyranny in Washington, and imagines themselves the savior of freedom...so they bomb a marathon?

[demwing]

31. Well, it could have been "anti-running" motivated..you may be on to something!

Or not, who can say?

Let's review:

Boston
Tax Day
Patriots Day
Big Crowd

Seeing anti-government sympathies here would not be a stretch by any means.

That being said, it doesn't seem like the Tea Party did it, unless they've been recently radicalized. I also agree that there is no way yet to tell why this happened. Still, it does smell like Tea, or was designed to smell like Tea...and that was my real point.

[snooper2]

30. I thought a 20 year old Saudi National was being held in the hospital having injuries looked at

I thought people watch the news around here

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. As of last night

As of this morning no longer

[snooper2]

35. ah DJ this morning on radio brought it up...

during my 6 minute drive to work

As I was saying, who needs to keep up with the news?

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Been live blogging

And since I am on the west coast morning is afternoon fer ya

[snooper2]

39. FYI wasn't trying to give you shit, was snarking at myself

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. That's ok

[Rowdyboy]

34. Smells more like horseshit to me. Pure, unadulterated horseshit. When there's evidence

we'll know something. Until then its just stereotyping based on your personal prejudices.

[Atman]

36. How do you think police look at evidence?

How is it "horseshit?" Just because you don't agree? Then to me, you're opinion is also "horseshit," because you have even less to base it on than I do. I'm looking at what I see...I'm not stereotyping anybody. I'm looking at the date, the location, the type of explosion. I'm not seeing people flying airplanes into buildings, I'm seeing horrible event, but not AQ. Which leads me to believe a local crazy person with a grudge about something. Do I think it was a liberal grudge about Obama and Chained CPI? I kind of doubt that. I'm just guessing, I totally admit, but I'm guessing based upon what I see before me. You're just saying "don't think until you're told what to think." I don't buy that.

[Rowdyboy]

42. I'm not saying that you're wrong-just that you don't know anything I don't know at this point

and to pretend otherwise is at best presumptuous. I have the same regard for the Freepers who've already decided it was Al Quaida. We don't know anything of any real significance this morning except the date and the place and that could just as easily turn out to be a coincidence.

Nevertheless, lets have a proper hanging-then we can worry about evidence and trials. And all based on your super-sensitive smelling ability.

[RZM]

43. If the perp was known, that would the headline

No matter who it was.