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pacalo

(24,721 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:35 AM Apr 2013

Medical professionals: Best advice for bystanders caring for the severely wounded?

Having seen some horrific pictures from the Boston bombings made me wonder what would be the most vital things a bystander could do to stabilize the severely wounded & to help save their lives. This could happen to any of us without warning & it would be great to know what to do to help.

For instance, what would be the first thing to do for someone with a limb blown off?

We need to know this.

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Medical professionals: Best advice for bystanders caring for the severely wounded? (Original Post) pacalo Apr 2013 OP
ABC's... cynatnite Apr 2013 #1
Next ABC is Always Be Calm HangOnKids Apr 2013 #3
I remember that from EMT school. n/t cynatnite Apr 2013 #7
Mine is studying to be one. tblue Apr 2013 #10
Thanks for confirming what I thought about the tourniquet. pacalo Apr 2013 #4
Tie a tourniquet tightly above the wound with a belt, or rope, etc. Tx4obama Apr 2013 #2
Thanks, Tx4obama! pacalo Apr 2013 #6
Let's all take a First Aid class. tblue Apr 2013 #5
I agree, tblue. I want to be ready when/if it happens. pacalo Apr 2013 #8
Take a First Aid Course rightsideout Apr 2013 #9
Apply pressure to gushing wounds jberryhill Apr 2013 #11
Unless you have done homework on this in advance (as you are doing now)... DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #12
One more bit of advice...do NOT investigate Related Articles or ... DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #15
There's an excellent series at Making Light written by an incident commander. politicat Apr 2013 #13
Thank you, politicat. pacalo Apr 2013 #14
Thanks, I bokmarked the link DiverDave Apr 2013 #20
Take a First Aid Course!!! Ilsa Apr 2013 #16
I couldn't agree more. pacalo Apr 2013 #19
Stop the bleeding, start the breathing. actslikeacarrot Apr 2013 #17
Thank you, acts. pacalo Apr 2013 #18

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
1. ABC's...
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:38 AM
Apr 2013

Airway, Breathing and Circulation.

It's basic first aid.

With a limb missing, stop bleeding. A tourniquet is called for. Use a rope, tie, belt...anything that can stop the bleeding.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
10. Mine is studying to be one.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:46 AM
Apr 2013

So proud of him for that. Says he just wants to help people. He goes to school in Boston and was near that site just yesterday. Oy.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
4. Thanks for confirming what I thought about the tourniquet.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:44 AM
Apr 2013

I saw two pictures of those with limbs missing & I couldn't see a tourniquet on either one. It could have been the camera angle.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
2. Tie a tourniquet tightly above the wound with a belt, or rope, etc.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:39 AM
Apr 2013

I'm not a medical professional but that is one thing that I do know.



tblue

(16,350 posts)
5. Let's all take a First Aid class.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:44 AM
Apr 2013

I took one a couple years ago but I hear you should take it every few years to stay informed and prepared. Maybe we need a thread on this. Any one of us just might save someone's life or limb someday.

rightsideout

(978 posts)
9. Take a First Aid Course
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:46 AM
Apr 2013

The Red Cross gives First Aid classes. Then you'll be ready.

From what I remember for severe bleeding keep the limb elevated above the heart. If an artery is cut you'll know because the blood will spurt out with each heart beat. Use a tourniquet, like a belt, and treat for shock. Watch the person's face. If red raise the head, if pale raise the tail. If you need to use a T-shirt to stop bleeding, the inside is cleaner then the outside.

Those are pretty much tips I learned from EMTs who taught us First Aid in Scouts.


DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
12. Unless you have done homework on this in advance (as you are doing now)...
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:48 AM
Apr 2013

...although I am NOT a medical professional I suggest...pull out your phone and search on "severed limb emergency".

Choose a result, eg. http://www.netplaces.com/first-aid/emergency-events/severed-limb.htm

Severed Limb by Nadine Saubers, R.N.

No matter what the cause, a severed limb is a traumatic event for first-aid providers and for the injured person, so it is vital to remain calm and proceed with a rapid response.

The following steps should be followed for any severed limb:
Call 911 immediately.

Assess for ABCs, start CPR, and manage for shock as needed (see Chapter 2).

Do not apply a tourniquet; instead, control the bleeding by raising the limb and applying direct pressure.

Apply a sterile and secure dressing.

Regardless of the condition of the limb or limb fragments, wrap them in cling film or put them in a plastic bag, wrap the bag with something soft like a towel, and put it into another plastic bag containing crushed ice.

Label the bag with the time of the injury and the injured person's name and give it to emergency responders as soon as possible.

Never attempt to wash a severed limb or apply any antiseptic or disinfectant. Also, do not let the limb or limb fragments come into direct contact with ice. Finally, don't use anything but plastic to wrap the severed limb.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
15. One more bit of advice...do NOT investigate Related Articles or ...
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 03:03 AM
Apr 2013

...Read More Emergency Events associated with the immediate situation.

I went back to look at the article linked above and found these 'helpful' additions:

Related Articles

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Read More Emergency Events

Childbirth (Emergency Delivery)
Miscarriage
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Severed Limb
Sprains
Broken Bones
Fractures of the Pelvis
Dislocations
Smoke Inhalation


Of course, if the victim happens to have gum in her or his hair as well as the limb thing...

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
16. Take a First Aid Course!!!
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 06:25 AM
Apr 2013

It will help you figure out how to prioritize tending to injuries, how to assess, and even in rare situations, when to give up.

The lessons of First Aid can also be applied towards smaller injury/illness events at home, especially Prevention.

actslikeacarrot

(464 posts)
17. Stop the bleeding, start the breathing.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 09:21 AM
Apr 2013

When everything you learned has fled your brain due to adrenaline or panic this little rhyme that is taught in some parts of the military is IMO the best. Direct pressure, tourniquets and or pressure dressing for the bleeding, repositioning of the airway and/or CPR for the breathing. A person will die from bleeding out long before dying from not breathing so take care of moderate to massive bleeding first.

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