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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPaul Ryan narrowly misses bomb on 3rd lap of Marathon
Well-known ultra marathoner Congressman Paul Ryan, was just past the finish line on his third lap of the Boston Marathon this afternoon. Mr. Ryan was unharmed, although it is not clear from early reports whether it was his third or fourth lap of the day.
Joining him was former Governor of Alaska Sarah Palin who was there for "this wonderful commemoration of Paul Revere running into town with his bells and guns to warn the British that the rebels were gonna come get 'em!"
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)LOL
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)GaYellowDawg
(4,443 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)It takes the edge off.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Thank you for the levity!!!!!
bluedigger
(17,077 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)we need humor
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)pinto
(106,886 posts)Come on. There's plenty of time to skewer Ryan or Palin. This isn't it.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)and agree fully. Certain things should not be said.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Or worse. I'm as far from a board nanny as you can get, and Ryan & Palin are great satire targets.
But if you've seen the photos, or spoken with anyone who's on the scene, it's a horrific tragedy -- many people with legs and feet blown completely off, blinded, just a slaughterhouse of horrors.
Save the humor for another marathon. Peace.
eggplant
(3,893 posts)Paul Ryan doesn't deserve to be mentioned today.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)ha ha no.
i'm sorry to hear the awful news.
Raine
(30,540 posts)worried stressful day. Thank goodness they're alright but I still think it's abit soon for jokes.
Control-Z
(15,681 posts)didn't at least think of Paul Ryan at some point today? Thanks for putting it into a funny!
I thought it was funny.
VOX
(22,976 posts)They'll really appreciate this brand of "humor."
Or maybe one of the dozens of victims who lost a limb would enjoy it.
Classless.
Control-Z
(15,681 posts)but did find a little comic relief after a day of tears and anger. I have family in the area and can't help but worry.
I'm not sure why you chose to attack me out of everyone on this thread who needed a light moment. If you were personally hurt by this tragic, needless, event, I am truly sorry. But there was nothing personal or about the victims in my response or in the OP, imho. It wasn't meant to degrade, demean or belittle what has happened. Quite the contrary.
VOX
(22,976 posts)My post was intended for the OP, but in haste, I inadvertently replied to the last in line, which, at the time, happened to be you. So -- it's *not* a personal attack.
Sorry for that, and BTW, I have a great sense of humor -- but I do feel a big disconnect with those who think it's okay to make a "joke" using this event -- which has morphed into a significant tragedy -- as a springboard. I'm not alone in this viewpoint, as you can see by the numerous posters here who also failed to see the humor or its timing as appropriate.
JI7
(89,180 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)...that's just my opinion. (Although several others here are of like mind.)
No Vested Interest
(5,157 posts)I've long since dismissed Paul Ryan from my mind, except for the occasional instances when he turns up on C-Span.
eShirl
(18,466 posts)until now, that is.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,085 posts)That idiot was pretty much the furthest thing from my mind.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Travelman
(708 posts)Paul Ryan was approximately the farthest possible thing from my mind when I heard this news on Monday afternoon.
I thought about people like my friend, new to marathon-running (and now a bit fanatical about it), who had just run in San Diego Sunday morning (I immediately posted on fb to him that I was glad he hadn't run Boston this year). I thought about my brother running the Music City Marathon next week. I thought about all of the victims, many of whom will now never run again, judging from the number of leg-amputation stories out there, all because they were just taking a pretty Monday morning to do something they enjoy. Later, I thought about the family of that eight-year-old, who did nothing more wrong than simply cheering on people who had managed to run twenty-six miles. I thought about all of the people who have that incredible instinct/training to do the exact opposite of what most of us would do: they ran toward the danger, instead of away from it.
I can very honestly say, without a moment's hesitation or doubt, that Paul Ryan, Janesville, Wisconsin, the federal budget, Democrats, Republicans, or Sarah Palin never, ever crossed my mind Monday. I had actual important things to think about at the time.
Robb
(39,665 posts)rocktivity
(44,555 posts)The perfect ending to a perfect day...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021246929
rocktivity
alittlelark
(18,886 posts)ROTFLMAO
Guess I kinda miss the MunsterMarathoner.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)for that one!
Bucky
(53,795 posts)I'm gladder to hear of the police already swarming in on one lead in Revere, MA. Whoever did this needs to hang slowly.
nmbluesky
(2,561 posts)Sorry not today..
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Needed that today.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)the day of the attacks?
i know, i know, if you do it, it's not wrong.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Then it is entirely inappropriate.
But using it as a means to boost team camaraderie by mocking an outgroup, A-OK.
Ter
(4,281 posts)n/t
All that is required is an "extraordinary" circumstance.
If bombs went off in another part of town or different state, would that be extraordinary?
GObamaGO
(665 posts)nvme
(860 posts)this is treading on callous asshole territory and shouldnt be used to make political jokes. an 8 y/o child was fucking blown up! Really? You had to make a joke? Really Douche baggy stuff!
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)I'm going to hell.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)like, um, a bomb in an elevator, you can take that opportunity to make a joke.
"A bomb went off in an elevator today. Five people were killed. They were detailing Mitt Romney's car."
Won't that be fucking funny?
Har har.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Response to jberryhill (Original post)
blackspade This message was self-deleted by its author.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)the OP thought it was a good time and topic for a joke.
yes, go figure.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Self deleting
dorkulon
(5,116 posts)I won't forget this.
sheshe2
(83,342 posts)I am from Massachusetts.
People lost their lives today. Some maimed and wounded. A child died today.
This is funny? No it is not!
Response to jberryhill (Original post)
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Recursion
(56,582 posts)... and was not that far from the finish line when it went off.
RetroLounge
(37,250 posts)Tasteless
RL
99Forever
(14,524 posts)And I like gallows humor, usually.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,085 posts)I know it's not nearly as bad as what I've seen on Free Republic (where members are advocating shooting anyone who is Muslim or appears Muslim, no joke), but it's still in bad taste and reflects poorly on DU.
Not going to alert. Just do the right thing and get rid of it.
jsr
(7,712 posts)srican69
(1,426 posts)decision to keep the post (4-2) ... so I guess this post is inoculated for good.
I am sure tons of others must have alerted on it as well.
VOX
(22,976 posts)My alert stated that this inappropriate post is in very poor taste, it shows a lack of compassion for the dead and maimed, and it reflects badly on DU, and on Democrats in general.
IMO, the jury system is godawful, and has contributed greatly to the hostile atmosphere now common on DU.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,085 posts)It's just the right thing to do.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)his attitude has always been for people to pound sand.
he's posting elsewhere on DU and has been since people started complaining about this thread.
he doesn't give a sh*t.
he's not wrong, he's never wrong.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,085 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)lots of names few have heard of.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)I have a dark sense of humor, but this is just...too soon.
VOX
(22,976 posts)I'm not some tight-ass who doesn't appreciate a good joke. Quite the contrary.
But this crosses the line, and reflects badly on DU. If that requires explanation, then there's no hope.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)and therefore reflects exactly what DU is. It's not just the four people who voted to leave it either -- look at all the high-fivers in this thread. Also hosts aren't empowered to lock it because sick, puerile attempts at humor are within the SOP for this forum. Those of us who find this appalling, well we've been outvoted.
VOX
(22,976 posts)...than what it was in its early years. There's been a severe erosion of civility, along with a (repeatedly) demonstrated insensitivity to the suffering of others.
I take some comfort from the posters on this thread who are objecting to its existence, even if four of those voices do not, by chance, serve on a jury simultaneously.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)dminaz
(9 posts)Even though I only have a few posts, I've been an avid DU "lurker" for some time. It sickens me that the same people who want to prevent violence against our children can then go and wish hurt or death on someone else (jokingly or not). I've seen this happen frequently on both sides and I wonder what kind of people we are becoming when we can't appreciate the life of EVERYONE.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Dick move...
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,085 posts)Could be more effective.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Worth a try...
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Does not care.
If anything, he cares more than he's been criticized than anything else.
Rex
(65,616 posts)That is about the worst joke I've ever seen. Did you make a joke right after 9/11 comparable to this? I doubt you did.
malaise
(267,823 posts)I was going to say that he was hit because of the real time it took to run the race.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Nothing like drawing as much attention as possible to something they disprove of.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Now people will want to go find what you are talking about and give it more attention.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Now you're drawing attention to it.
You said it first.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)I got nothin...
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)you just can't help yourself.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)kicked the thread that he's spent all day whining about. Again.
"you just can't help yourself"
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and now that it's drama, you find it even more hilarious.
you hate us and our politics so this is like a feast for you.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Author: Tommy_Carcetti
Okay, I'm going on record. Jokes about the Boston bombing and certain political figures: Not funny.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022685903
Alerted by pintobean: I'll try this again. "No whining about DU" I don't understand why this hasn't been locked. The OP even admits that it's meta. 4:11 PM
General Discussion Author: Tommy_Carcetti
Okay, I'm going on record. Jokes about the Boston bombing and certain political figures: Not funny.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022685903
Alerted by pintobean: Meta. He's talking about this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2681898
1:20 PM
pintobean
(18,101 posts)is a host of Environment & Energy. The sixth host of six slots there. Is this what goes on behind the scenes in the host forum? Any host of a group can troll the SOP alerts in the big forums and post them at will? I guess if someone doesn't want to be outed, they just won't alert. I don't see how the system can work when no one can trust everyone who has that access.
Is this a betrayal of trust?
Is it fair to the many good people serving as DU hosts?
I don't think this is acceptable behavior.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)if you alerted for SOP, i can't think of a reason why you'd want that private, at least, if the alert was offered in good faith i can't.
apocalypsehow
(12,751 posts)He finds exposure of that said serial hypocrisy of his "counterproductive." Quelle surprise!
And one notices this in the 'ole profile:
About pintobean
Statistics and Information
Account status: Active
Member since: Sat Jan 10, 2004, 09:24 AM
Number of posts: 8,732
Number of posts, last 90 days: 748
Favorite forum: Meta-discussion, 427 posts in the last 90 days (57% of total posts)
Favorite group: Ask the Administrators, 2 posts in the last 90 days (0% of total posts)
He's gone from making whining about other DU'ers in the now-defunct Meta forum his favorite pastime, to making whining in ATA about other DU'ers his "Favorite group."
Telling, that.
Kali
(54,990 posts)but is sure was a cheap shot from the Great Hunter. poor guy, can't get off on his self-righteousness as much with Meta gone.
nevermind he has kicked this thread at least 15 times
pintobean
(18,101 posts)I've seen it done twice before, both in meta. The first one was hidden by a jury. I doubt the second one was alerted on - the entertainment value of that one was just too high for an alert.
This one is just cheesy and par for the coarse. It makes one wonder why he became a host.
Thanks for the kind words the other day.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)i'm surprised you would try to stop a thread saying that some jokes, but not specifying which ones, should wait and not be posted or told in light of the tragedy.
i find it ironic that you alerted that one twice, but had nothing to say about the actual joke.
apocalypsehow
(12,751 posts)If you remember, it was the two posters above who are such bosom buddies that were major players in that Meta thread started by another one of their pals calling on each and every one of my posts to be alert-stalked regarding my sig line - a sig line that STILL stands, I might note, after going up against a verified 87 singular alerts, with close to two hundred related alerts made on individual posts of mine where the alert message whined about same sig line.
Now, that's an attempt to silence and alert-stalk a DU poster, my friend - and those two posters above were hip-deep in the middle of that effort. Now they whine in ATA about attempts to call out hypocrisy. It's the height of irony.
Kali
(54,990 posts)However ATA is easy enough - please link to my whining in ATA.
You are a liar.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)that he just makes stuff up, I don't bother to reply. Anyone who pays attention knows.
"verified" alerts.
Kali
(54,990 posts)jeebus what a crock of shit. in fact I might actually go whine about it in ATA!
apocalypsehow
(12,751 posts)Now you can go ahead and alert on this reply, insisting to a new jury that you didn't alert on the previous post of mine above - just like you routinely tried to pull the wool over numerous DU juries when Meta was still a going concern and you were a serial alerter in it - and roll that dice yet again for about the nth time.
But, Pro-tip: DU juries tend to not be as gullible as you have consistently pretended they must be in your serial alerts and phony - often outright false - alert messages included in those same serial alerts over the time since DU3 first rolled out. Perhaps if you ceased insulting DU'ers who serve on juries intelligence with your bogus alerts, they would cease voting to "Leave" time after time after time.
But, then, Oh, my! - if you limited yourself to sending only genuine alerts to DU juries, you would have to find a new hobby, wouldn't you? Sorry about that!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Star Member Skinner (57,190 posts)
1. I'm not going to count up alerts. But I will say this...
View profile
That person has been crowing for weeks about the number of alerts (allegedly) sent about his sig line, even going so far as to state the the number of alerts that were allegedly sent.
He has no clue what he is talking about. There is no way for a DU member to know an alert was sent against them unless a post is hidden or a juror shares the alert with them. In the case of this person's sig line, the actual number of alerts sent was negligible.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12591326#post1
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 21, 2013, 01:50 PM - Edit history (1)
What a coward. He was caught lying, so he calls Skinner a liar and runs away.
ETA a screen shot in case he changes his sig and alerts on my post.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Skinner 10:42 AM #1
Response to Kali (Original post)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 10:42 AM
Star Member Skinner (57,190 posts)
1. I'm not going to count up alerts. But I will say this...
That person has been crowing for weeks about the number of alerts (allegedly) sent about his sig line, even going so far as to state the the number of alerts that were allegedly sent.
He has no clue what he is talking about. There is no way for a DU member to know an alert was sent against them unless a post is hidden or a juror shares the alert with them. In the case of this person's sig line, the actual number of alerts sent was negligible.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12591326#post1
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts).
Transparency rules!!!
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There is a reason why some among us are referred to as self-important.
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pintobean
(18,101 posts)Anyone who read Meta knows that I was strongly opposed to call-outs, personal attacks, and pile-ons. It's what pissed you off about me. All the things you and your buddies embraced and tried to claim that that behavior was the reason for meta, even after Skinner clearly stated that meta was no safe haven for such behavior.
The first time you took issue with me, you falsely accused me of telling you to "stfu".
Now you're claiming the opposite about me. You know I've never seen DU as a free speech zone.
Maybe you need to get more organized about who you accuse of what.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)If you would like to participate, volunteer.
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)taterguy
(29,582 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)TYY
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)You can see someone, maybe.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)just not open to feedback, never is.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Maybe he's just not seeing it yet?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)he will dig in harder than most posters after he says something obnoxious.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)do you self delete at some point?
Maybe we should do a case study?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)because people were posting reasons justifying hitting children, even comparing it to hitting pets and animals (which they also justified).
i was so horrified by it that i requested numerous times for moderators (it was DU2) to lock it.
i had good intentions when i posted it, but for a variety of reasons, it went wrong, some i could have foreseen some i couldn't have. but that didn't matter. when a thread goes badly or causes problems that are not constructive or are more harmful than good, it's time to delete it and that's what i do.
i make mistakes, i make them on DU. everyone does, that's not a crime or terrible failing, it's just part of being a member. not correcting it or admitting to it is the unforgivable sin.
who the heck thinks they never make a mistake on DU that needs correction? that is probably the biggest and most disruptive personal failing at DU.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Somebody flush it, FFS. Time was when the mods (remember them?) would have shit-canned this mess in a snap for being just that -- a stinking, hot mess.
The jury "system" has allowed DU to go to rot, and this thread is Exhibit A.
NealK
(1,791 posts)It's disgusting.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)I appreciate the effort, sincerely, and offer a for your intentions.
That being said, maybe not so much with the funny just yet. Let the swelling go down a wee, OK?
Cheers.
Lane1340
(20 posts)x