The fact that this was in Boston on tax day is not a coincidence.

[SoonerPride]

It is not just random.

It is not Al Qaida.
It is not N Korea.

It is worse.

Domestic, homegrown lunatics. Call them Tea Party or wingnuts,. I don't care. Whatever.

You can decry me for speculating. I don't give a fuck.

I am in Oklahoma City. I lived though and lost people to domestic terrorism.

This is that all over again.

It is time to take off the gloves and fucking arrest those who spew treason and foment revolution.

It ain't free speech.

It's sedition.

[bbinacan]

1. Slow down there cowboy

There's a whole lot of information yet to come.

[SoonerPride]

3. No sale.

Sorry.

I've been down the "let's wait and see" road.

[bbinacan]

34. Do you remember Richard Jewell?

May want to rethink that.

[SoonerPride]

70. I'm not blaming a specific person

When I do I'll let you know

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

85. So you're not blaming a specific person

But you're claiming to by privvy to the specific motivations of people you don't know.

My head hurts...

[muriel_volestrangler]

68. And what was so bad about the "let's wait and see" road?

Did it inconvenience or traumatise you? Or was it just not enough fun for you?

[WinkyDink]

31. It's just a discussion board, not the FBI here.

[Floyd_Gondolli]

63. Ain't that the truth

The "don't talk about that!" and the "it's all about me" crowd histrionics are making me queasy.

[kysrsoze]

2. That could very well be the case - some sick bastard's Tea Party II fantasy...

only the coward attacks innocent people. But it's all just conjecture. We really know nothing at this point. I could be wrong, but I just don't see this being a Saudi national.

[SoonerPride]

8. If it were Al Qaida they'd already claim it.

They would.

[Tempest]

4. You're putting the cart way before the horse

You should give a fuck.

You're making baseless accusations without a single shred of evidence.

That makes you as dangerous as those who set off the bombs.

[SoonerPride]

12. Sure. My words kill people.

Nice.

[Tempest]

25. Words do kill people

Never heard of vigilante justice, I take it.

Your words spread fear, fear manifests itself into hate, hate becomes action.

We've seen it over and over again.

[Blue Idaho]

28. Who's projecting now?

Take a breath and stop trying to justify your post.

[Tempest]

54. Was it projection that got Balbir Singh Sodhi murdered?

No, it was fear and hate speech like what the original poster engaged in.

[Blue Idaho]

62. Was it a post on Democratic Underground? If so

I think we should all get together and beat the shit out of him cuz he had the temerity to act like a human being and guess the who what's and wheres when something bad happened. Worst of all he did it on the all mighty and powerful DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND!!!!!!!

Thank you so much for being the hall monitor today. I am sure you have saved many lives with your quick action on this thread.

Now you can get busy assembling the grand jury so you can indict me as a co-conspirator.

[Blue Idaho]

23. As dangerous as the people who set off the bombs?

Seriously? Someone posts to a blog and they are as bad as folks who murdered two and injured hundreds? This post may be premature but no way that makes them the same as a terrorist bomber murdering innocent spectators.

BTW - does this post make me a co-conspirator?

[WinkyDink]

33. OFGS. It's called "suspicion" and "opinion." It's a NORMAL REACTION TO CRIME.

Are we not allowed, in your opinion, to speak until the perps are convicted?

[Tempest]

57. It's called fear mongering and hate speech IMHO. n/t

[alarimer]

67. Most terrorist attacks in this country have been home-grown.

With the notable exception of 9/11 and the previous attack on the World Trade Center.

Those that were homegrown were all right-wing.

Eric Rudolph. Timothy McVeigh, the Unabomber (maybe).

[TimberValley]

5. Let's wait for all the facts, okay? n/t.

[WinkyDink]

35. Well, heck, why not keep mum until after the sentencing? Ridiculous.

[napkinz]

6. walks, talks, looks like a duck ...

[Dreamer Tatum]

7. Go get started on that, then. nt

[codemoguy]

9. From what I can see there's no basis for thinking it's anyone specific yet...

everyone seems to be hoping it was done by the other side of the US political divide...

sad in it's own way...

[uppityperson]

10. Speculate away but make sure you are able to change your mind when the facts are learned.

[SoonerPride]

15. I'm always willign to admit when I'm wrong.

And when it is deemed it is more domestic terrorism then what?

Arrest anyone who spews it.

Fair deal?

[uppityperson]

19. I am with you on that. eom

[WinkyDink]

44. The OP thanks you for your permission and admonition, I'M SURE. (You earned your name.)

[uppityperson]

48. Says the DUer who is going through the thread and snarking at many. The OP and I are fine,

have worked out an agreement thank you very much.

[cali]

11. my god the stupid speculation on du is out of control and pretty sickening

Living in OC doesn't give you any special insight. And in Boston, April 15 is known more for being Patriot's day which is a big time holiday there than anything else- including tax day. (Yes, I lived in Boston- for over a decade)

YOU have no fucking idea what this is.

Nauseating.

[SoonerPride]

17. I am willing to admit I'm wrong if you are.

Deal?

[RZM]

24. Add 'and I also won't do it next time' and you've got something n/t

[cali]

30. Aaarghh. That is so not my point. Whether you are right or wrong is irrelevant

the point is that you're projecting this despicable act onto the people you hate or dislike or perceive as enemies or however you want to put it. Of course it's projection because we just don't have enough info.

[SoonerPride]

77. My point is that

2+2=4

The simplest explanation is often the right answer.

[Skip Intro]

21. +100. nt

[WinkyDink]

47. MY GOD, so is the condescending and arrogant "SHUT UP, YOU!" coterie.

And no, the rest of the country doesn't know from "Patriot's day"; we all know it is INCOME TAX DAY.

[intheflow]

79. Patriot's Day

A holiday in the city where the original Tea Party was held. It's not much of a speculative stretch to think the most extreme current tea party members imagines the tree of liberty needs watering on tax day. Of course that being said, why target the marathon and not, say, a federal office building? But whatever. A lunatic doesn't really need an excuse for their lunacy, it's us in the aftermath who feel the need to attach some meaning to the meaningless acts of madmen.

[tularetom]

13. I remember OKC very well and the jumping to conclusions that day was Olympic caliber

The liberal media had "Arab terrorists" tried and convicted before the dust from the explosions had even settled.

There were a lot of red faces when the perp turned out to be a right wing nut case.

Let's not do the same thing they did.

[WinkyDink]

39. I didn't know that DU was "the media." (BTW, what = "The liberal media"???)

[davekriss]

52. What "liberal media"?

Yes, the corporate media was proclaiming that it was Saudi terrorists in Oklahoma City. But we have no (mainstream) "liberal media" in the United States.

[tularetom]

61. Sometimes the "sarcasm" smiley is superfluous

Or so I thought.

[Niceguy1]

14. saudi in custody.

Would self delete if I were you.

[Squinch]

20. Wrong. Rupert Murdoch is just fucking with you again. So you probably need to be the one

self deleting.

[City Lights]

22. Saudi not in custody.

Would self-delete if I were you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022678727

[uppityperson]

26. Debunked by Boston Police. Here is link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014454630

[csziggy]

40. I thought that claim had been disproved?

Right now I can't find a link, just lots of reports off the original NY Post claim.

[Niceguy1]

65. CBS

And NBC now cover. Post might have had scoop

[Squinch]

16. Oh, crap. I hadn't thought of that.

I know what you mean about "this is that all over again." I still can't watch film of the attack on my city, and now Boston's citizens join you in Oklahoma City and me in New York with that heartbreak. This opens new hurts and pulls the scabs off the old ones.

God help them.

[Skip Intro]

18. Bushco wanted to arrest those who "spoke treason" too.

I remember Ari Fleischer (sp?) telling the people, US, that we should "watch what we say."

No thanks.

[WinkyDink]

45. Is the poster THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?!

[Skip Intro]

56. Same sentiment. nt

[originalpckelly]

27. We need tax change, but I agree...

it does look suspicious.

We'll see, however, a marathon doesn't seem like a likely target for such a person. One would think they'd go after a government structure, if they were anti-government.

[WinkyDink]

29. OMG---I was JUST about to post the very same thing! Tax day! Tea-Party Boston!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

32. I'll wait until more evidence comes out

but hey, no flames here. If you can't speculate on DU, then where can you?

[librechik]

36. feh, we don't know shit

so we have to wait--nobody knows what happened or why, could be anything--for example: Al Qaeda trademark #1 is multiple timed attacks in different locations.

We don't know a thing yet--

but the Boston Marathon finish line is one of the most filmed locations in the US. It wouldn't surprise me if they caught somebody on camera.

[HappyMe]

37. I'll wait until there is more credible info.

I think it has more to do with hurting as many as possible. Marathon = crowds.

[slackmaster]

38. If it turns out that you are wrong, will you return to this thread and acknowledge your error?

[bluestate10]

41. Tax Day, Patriot's Day and four days before the anniversary of Waco. The events and sites

struck make a statement. An iconic event was struck on an iconic day for New England. Plenty of people in the city on this day. People come out of the early game at Fenway to watch the marathon at or near the finish line, along with the people that watched the race from the start.

[BainsBane]

42. that was my thought

but we really don't know.

[spanone]

43. more. rampant. speculation.

[WinkyDink]

50. This. is. a. discussion. board.

[SoonerPride]

71. I'm glad someone get it.

Thank you

[AntiFascist]

46. The danger I see...

is when people like Jane Harman appear on CNN trying to stir up paranoia against Al Qaeda, when she herself is not citing any evidence. We know that Howard Dean is making noise about leaving the Democrats if funding is not cut for the Pentagon. It would certainly benefit the Pentagon if this were spun as some sort of foreign terrorist threat.

[randome]

49. Speculate all you want. But be aware that you're letting your anger get the better of you.,

In all situations, it's better to look at facts calmly and without emotion.

[WinkyDink]

51. Wow. Condescending and wrong, too.

[Tempest]

59. WTF is wrong with you?

You're running around sniping and not offering anything constructive.

Are you just looking for attention, even if it's negative?

[The2ndWheel]

55. What government building was bombed?

Alright, it's tax day. It's also the day that the Boston Marathon took place. That's a lot of people around.

It's not something or nothing yet.

[bushisanidiot]

58. Its tax day. That was my very first thought as well.

Ive heard a couple people report that the bombs looked homemade which reekes of domestic terrorism.

[Tempest]

60. It's not tax day in Boston.

They have until tomorrow.

I'm betting the Boston Marathon has more to do with it.

[napkinz]

66. the person who did it may not be from Boston

nt

[HiPointDem]

78. it's an anti-running activist, you mean?

[tarheelsunc]

64. Is it a coincidence that today is Kim Il-Sung's 101st birthday?

I'm 99.9% sure it is. The Tax Day thing kind of makes sense, but I'd rather not speculate.

[AverageJoe90]

69. You very well could be right.....n/t

[SoonerPride]

72. Occam's razor

That's my thought

[Llewlladdwr]

74. According to CNN the police are looking for a dark-skinned or black man...

...in connection with the attack. They're also talking to a Saudi national but have not declared him other than a person of intrest so far.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/15/us/boston-marathon-explosions/index.html

Might want to take a breath and slow down...

[Ilsa]

75. I hear you. I think this theory has a

higher probability of being correct than assuming it's al qaeda. It just comes together better:
Anniversary dates, Newtown, Gun stuff in Congress, no one claiming responsibility. Seems more like militia/tax-issue freaks to me.

But we have to wait and see.

[bushisanidiot]

76. President Lincoln died on April 15th

.

[slackmaster]

86. Yes, and Great Leader of Best Korea Kim Il Sung was born, in 1912.

[pipi_k]

81. Wrong

on all assumptions

[Macoy51]

82. I Disagree

"Domestic, homegrown lunatics. Call them Tea Party or wingnuts,. I don't care. Whatever. "

Soonerpride


I disagree, I don't think it was the tea party or wingnuts.



Macoy

[slackmaster]

83. Hey SoonerPride! Breakfast is served. Come and get it!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

84. smh/no text