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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf John McCain had won in 2008, we would have two more conservative justices on the SCOTUS.
We would still be in Iraq. We would also be in Libya and Syria, and more than likely Iran. Also, more and more Americans would have limited access to health insurance. DADT would still be in effect in our military. And Sarah Palin would be your Vice President.
If Mitt Romney would have won in 2012, Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy would have been made permanent and even expanded, and more than likely, he would add another conservative to the SCOTUS. Finally, we would be preparing for the eventual invasion of Iran.
So, if you're feeling regret over voting for Obama, then you really need to educate yourself.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)anything to distract from Obama's biggest blunder....
wild ass guesses don't count as facts
Yavin4
(35,427 posts)Got it.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Which one of the above mentioned wouldn't happen?
And if Dems fail to come to the polls and vote D.. We'll be ruled by a few more fundamentalists like Alito, Thomas and Scalia. Chew on that thought.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)This country on the right track. The TP bunch needs to be corralled and sent to pasture to allow sanity to rebound. We are the USA, we can do it.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:52 AM - Edit history (1)
So thanks for the mini guilt trip, but no thanks!
What I do regret is my naive belief that candidate Obama would stick around after the election, or that Hope and Change weren't just calculated, rhetorical tools designed to play on my emotions.
What a disappointment that has been. Yeah, Obama is years better than McCain, and light years better than Romney. I am not arguing that with you. Obama was better than any Republican alternative, but guess what? The same could be said of ANY Democrat--especially any of the the ones not willing to sacrifice our safety nets.
I don't regret the vote, I do regret the hope.
LuvNewcastle
(16,843 posts)That describes it for me. We have extraordinary problems that require equally extraordinary solutions. Just getting by isn't an option anymore. It's like when you have a house that you haven't cared for since you bought it 30 years ago. You have a leaky roof that you've patched over and over again, and then a storm comes along. It's time to replace the roof.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Apples and oranges
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Yavin4
(35,427 posts)Got it.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Look up the meaning of false dilemma.
Yavin4
(35,427 posts)Obama didn't appoint two justices to the SCOTUS????
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... jerk starts telling me what I think, that's making shit up. That's a fact, not a fucking opinion. Deal with it.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . I just think things can be better than "Thank God George Dubya On Steroids isn't running things".
I think we need to do better than "no economic option". 94% of the politicians we elect are laissez-fail Milton Friedman addicts. The near pure Capitalism we have is killing us, and nothing meaningful is being done to stop it. We're always picking up the tab when Capitalism crashes, yet any notion of throwing Joe and Jane Cubeslave a crumb speck of a lifeline illicits "Lazy Freeloader Dependent" talk from our Congress. Service jobs aren't going to save us. Entrepreneurship is a crapshoot that very rarely pans out to long-term sustainability and really can only thrive if you have Universal Health Care, which we do not. Underemployment is becoming epidemic. We're on track to have the best educated shelf-stockers and custodians. If education were the problem, then why are people with Bachelors and Masters degrees getting laid off of well-paying jobs?
We also seriously need to kick our addiction to militarism. Is this beast REALLY too giant to contain? Are we REALLY in need of a constant intervention SOMEwhere in the world? In America's 237 years, haven't we been at war or attacking somebody for around 206 of them? This is costing us billions upon billions, about as much as corporate corruption is costing us.
If we can't expect anyone who campaigns on the premise of making things better to save us, then why is it realistic to expect us to save ourselves? I really wish I knew how.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)David Souter probably wouldn't have stepped down if McCain became president.
Yavin4
(35,427 posts)Even so, Stevens was 90 years old. In the end, by electing Obama, we got two younger, more liberal justices on the SCOTUS without risking one of them dying while John McCain was president.
demwing
(16,916 posts)I learned what condescending bullshit smells like when served up with an argument made of straw.
Marr
(20,317 posts)dsc
(52,155 posts)justices tend to time their retirements and both souter and stevens are still alive.
Yavin4
(35,427 posts)Really? You don't see a benefit there?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)At least more so than the gridlock we have now.
It's like they rather wait until 2016. Then whoever is President then could still have a republican congress and end up in the same boat.
They put too much onto the Presidency.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.