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jtown1123

(3,203 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:26 AM Apr 2013

I Really Don't Think CEOs are worth 354 Times MORE THAN Regular Workers

Worker productivity is way up and workers' pay has stagnated for decades.

CEOs have no problem padding their own pockets.

Check out the new Executive PayWatch website: www.paywatch.org for the latest comprehensive info about CEO Pay, Fix the Debt, the Business Roundtable and the other "bipartisan" groups trying to cut our Social Security and Medicare benefits.



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I Really Don't Think CEOs are worth 354 Times MORE THAN Regular Workers (Original Post) jtown1123 Apr 2013 OP
They call that an example of healthy growth. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #1
Exactly. jtown1123 Apr 2013 #4
We used to call it "racketeering", when the CEO gets together with the board and divvies up the..... dmosh42 Apr 2013 #2
Alway thought Rabid_Rabbit Apr 2013 #3
Pretty sure Sweden and other countries do this n/t jtown1123 Apr 2013 #5
Depends... ThoughtCriminal Apr 2013 #6
Pretty much the number one reason CEO pay keeps rising n/t jtown1123 Apr 2013 #7
And explains other things ThoughtCriminal Apr 2013 #12
Love that n/t jtown1123 Apr 2013 #15
Some CEOs are and some are not. cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #8
They're not Purplehazed Apr 2013 #9
I think it's safe to say jtown1123 Apr 2013 #14
They never have been. They never will be. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2013 #10
And hedge fund managers aren't worth $2billion a year Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #11
+1. We need a higher minimum wage, but we also need a "ratio". winter is coming Apr 2013 #13

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
1. They call that an example of healthy growth.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:45 AM
Apr 2013

An even more telling way to frame this chart is this: Do CEO's contribute almost 9 times more to the economy today than they did in 1982? We have always had CEO's, we didn't always pay them like gods.

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
2. We used to call it "racketeering", when the CEO gets together with the board and divvies up the.....
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:55 AM
Apr 2013

revenues, with the stockholders having no recourse. But now with the wealthy controlling everything, the only people prosecuted might be potsmokers.

 

Rabid_Rabbit

(131 posts)
3. Alway thought
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:59 AM
Apr 2013

that if there was a way to regulate that ratio, we would solve many of the problems facing us. Maybe structuring corporate taxes based on the Ceo to Worker pay ratio. That would affect share holder who would then preassure the board to be more realistic with the CEO pay they are approving.
ratio < 30:1 pay x%
ratio < 35:1 pay (x+1)%
etc

Purplehazed

(179 posts)
9. They're not
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:28 AM
Apr 2013

One might make an exception for a true entrepreneur or visionary that has led a company to greatness, but for the most part CEO's are just managers and the people that approve their pay are hand picked. If the salaries are not outrageous enough, I think that the average share holder would be stunned by the money company money spent on private chefs, dining facilities, private planes and helicopters etc.

All while the lowest paid qualify for assistance from the government. Sickening.

jtown1123

(3,203 posts)
14. I think it's safe to say
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:45 AM
Apr 2013

very few of these CEOs are making something of value or are entrepreneurs.

If they can afford to pay themselves that much, they can afford to pay their workers more.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,158 posts)
10. They never have been. They never will be.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:29 AM
Apr 2013

But since they often sit on the boards of their vastly overpaid buddies (Google "interlocking directorates&quot , one hand is always washing the other's backside.

So, just replace the boards? Good luck with that. The John Q. Stockholders of the world are vastly outnumbered (sharewise) by other corporations, investment funds, hedge funds, and other dregs of society -- who are ALSO sitting on these boards.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
11. And hedge fund managers aren't worth $2billion a year
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:34 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022675607

How can anyone defend this? How can anyone defend a system that allows this sort of private profit and mass accumulation of wealth along with sabotaging of public infrastructure, schools, workers rights, all in the name of corporate profit in the face of extreme, obscene, and growing inequality?

It's unconscionable, and the people who defend the crumbs that some of us may get as 'good enough' or 'the best we can do for now' or 'a starting point' are carrying water for the one percent whether they know it or not.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
13. +1. We need a higher minimum wage, but we also need a "ratio".
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:45 AM
Apr 2013

The highest paid employee at any company shouldn't receive more than X times the compensation of the lowest-paid employee. Want a humongous CEO salary? Then you need to pay the worker bees better, too.

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