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New Tom Tomorrow. Right. On. Target. (Original Post) kpete Apr 2013 OP
O. M. G. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #1
+1 gazillion valerief Apr 2013 #28
Unwavering Apologist needs a frame where he says, "Shut up, shut up! HE'S GOT A PLAN!" Brickbat Apr 2013 #2
+100 nt truebluegreen Apr 2013 #9
no shit. yurbud Apr 2013 #21
I TRUST HIM 100% HE'S GOT A PLAN!!!!111! LOOK AT THESE HEROIC LOOKING PICTURES! Maven Apr 2013 #55
UA's and their endless Picture Threads!! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #57
How dare you disrepect their religion. L0oniX Apr 2013 #64
Tom Tomorrow, emoprog... KG Apr 2013 #3
For REALZ!!! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6
Yeah, right? LOL closeupready Apr 2013 #25
Tom Emorrow cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #88
God bless em. If it wasn't for emoprogs, I'd feel like I was taking crazy pills. nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #93
! OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #4
+1,000,000 alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #5
I'm still gonna use "worshippers" because it implies more ignorance, blindness and hypocrisy. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #37
+2,000,000 alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #43
As usual Tommy T nails it.....+1,000 Armstead Apr 2013 #7
Ouch. The Unwavering Apologist. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #8
Yeah, and they just got SCHOOOOOLED!!! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #10
+100 nt truebluegreen Apr 2013 #12
+101 kickity kick yo! nt alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #13
I guess it stung a little, huh? Marr Apr 2013 #34
? truebluegreen Apr 2013 #41
I think alcibiades is being sarcastic. Marr Apr 2013 #44
Oh, thanks...I was confused. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #47
No ways, dude! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #49
The UAs are getting ROASTED, son, what? alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #45
Some of them are not even US citizens. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #35
Allow me... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #67
Is that the clown who needs an enema? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2013 #71
'Tis. And since this is popular lately... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #72
+1 L0oniX Apr 2013 #84
Yep. But they know all about America. jsr Apr 2013 #83
Ah, Doll Hands Brooks and Thomas "Milton" Friedman . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #11
The NYT apparently admitted that he hasn't has an editor in years nxylas Apr 2013 #14
His metaphors alone would drive even a straight-edge to drink. HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #18
That's hilarious! myrna minx Apr 2013 #61
Have you seen this? nxylas Apr 2013 #95
The fact that a generator can mimic every column he writes to the word . . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #100
That IS a hilarious toon...love it :) tex-wyo-dem Apr 2013 #97
They do have certain talents Armstead Apr 2013 #16
But Friedman won a Pulitzer...what could possibly go wrong? nt wtmusic Apr 2013 #17
my favorite Friedman stupidity: effect of Iraq War on oil price: $6 or $60 a barrel yurbud Apr 2013 #24
Excellent find - nt dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #89
Hugh, that link is to the thread, and the radio link is a bit far down... JHB Apr 2013 #42
Thanks for the links - HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #73
Thay're ridiculously uncaring and shilling because... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2013 #92
Will we now see an outbreak of Unwavering Apologist avatars on DU? nxylas Apr 2013 #15
They are not REAL Democrats. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #33
I'm happy to bring Chuckles back for you. nt LWolf Apr 2013 #96
Whoa!! ananda Apr 2013 #19
Correction alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #20
I think you mean Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #38
Double Awesome Team Awesome! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #46
Sarcasm, you are doing it wrong. bobduca Apr 2013 #70
He's been pretty damned insulting about it all day. Occulus Apr 2013 #87
Absolutely Perfect !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #22
Love it. K&R closeupready Apr 2013 #23
Republicans hope their candidates will do what they say, Democrats hope they won't yurbud Apr 2013 #26
Pretty much BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #59
Spewed the Corporate line all along? bvar22 Apr 2013 #74
Thank you dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #90
"does anyone hear the words that come out of my mouth?" MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #27
I asked one of them recently, "Do you even listen to yourself?" Skittles Apr 2013 #80
Middleman has a new book: "The Audacity of Retreat". Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #29
LOL Armstead Apr 2013 #32
LOL! RetroLounge Apr 2013 #40
LOL alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #48
Comes with a discount coupon for "Its So Easy Even a Caveman Can Do It". L0oniX Apr 2013 #65
LOL !!! - Perfect !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #79
Lol! NealK Apr 2013 #94
One good "Middle Man" deserves another rocktivity Apr 2013 #30
"he should at least stop asking for tax increases in return" LMFAO L0oniX Apr 2013 #31
Whooop, there it is. n/t 99Forever Apr 2013 #36
Yup RetroLounge Apr 2013 #39
Lol, that is hilarious. 'NOT 11th dimensional chess'! sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #50
I swear Tom Tomorrow reads DU. progressoid Apr 2013 #53
MiddleMan seems to think Unwavering Apologist is kind of an annoying toadie. pa28 Apr 2013 #51
Someone has been lurking here. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #52
Absolutely. progressoid Apr 2013 #54
I think so! Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #58
Monolog writers for the Tonight Show etc. used to lurk in ATJ.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #62
Brutal Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #56
K&R For Unwavering Apologist. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #60
The Thomas Nast of our age. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #63
Thanks Tom, now we will get another angry letter Rex Apr 2013 #66
Will he call Rahm back to pinch hit? nt LWolf Apr 2013 #101
Send To An Apologist In Your Life. colsohlibgal Apr 2013 #68
agree - and your second pgh described my favorite part too! spooky3 Apr 2013 #99
I like Tom Tomorrow, but.....he's way off target this time....as in, dead wrong. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #69
kinda like rockbands saying Spinal Tap was way off Skittles Apr 2013 #76
OMG!!! Skittles Apr 2013 #75
K&R Scathingly brilliant. forestpath Apr 2013 #77
KICK! Absolute perfection as always. Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #78
Perfect. jsr Apr 2013 #81
*right click* | *save as* Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #82
It is not in Obama's hands daybranch Apr 2013 #85
Actually I believe it is dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #91
All One Finds In The Middle Of The Road Is Dead Skunks And Armadillos cantbeserious Apr 2013 #86
Wow, talk about dead on... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2013 #98

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
2. Unwavering Apologist needs a frame where he says, "Shut up, shut up! HE'S GOT A PLAN!"
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:21 AM
Apr 2013

YOU NEVER LOVED HIM!

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
57. UA's and their endless Picture Threads!!
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 01:46 PM
Apr 2013

I call that Worshippering, which is the opposite of Critical Thinking Skillz!!!!

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. +1,000,000
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:30 AM
Apr 2013

Love the new name for Them: Unwavering Apologists! Ahahahahaha! That's Awesome! Somebody on Team Awesome suggested Professional Obama Defenders (POD People, get it???? Ahahahaha!), but I think maybe Unwavering Apologists should definitely be the name we call Those People! And look at the funny suit with the A for Apologist on it! Awesome! We should make the Unwavering Apologists wear an A for Apologist here: or better, a UA for Unwavering Apologists. Not to be confused with TA for Team Awesome!!!!

K&R to Infinity!!

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
8. Ouch. The Unwavering Apologist.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:31 AM
Apr 2013

There's a disturbingly long list of people around here who resemble that remark...

jsr

(7,712 posts)
83. Yep. But they know all about America.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:17 PM
Apr 2013

I wonder if they'd be willing to ditch their socialist universal healthcare and move to the U.S.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
11. Ah, Doll Hands Brooks and Thomas "Milton" Friedman . . .
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:34 AM
Apr 2013

. . . the most average writers on the planet with the grandest self-importance.

People pay attention to Thomas Friedman and buy his unintentionally hilarious books. Our corporate run media love to have him on and allows him to spew, unopposed or challenged, the opinions and musings of a regular multi-millionaire Average Joe (who pretty much got to where he is via lucky breaks, marriage and other opportune moments) in regards to what American workers need to do to change their situations.

In case you want a sentence summary of those musings: "It's all your fault, you need to get smarter, people being lifted out of poverty overseas is great even if it means job losses here, and it's either this or North Korea/Communism."

Oh, and Thomas doesn't at ALL like to be challenged. Check out the New Zealand interview down this thread. A little long of a listen, but it's well worth it to see how to completely expose a corporate toady who has nothing but flimsy arguments that dismiss SO many intangibles:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022665769

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
14. The NYT apparently admitted that he hasn't has an editor in years
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:44 AM
Apr 2013

Just a quick copy edit, no actual fact-checking or anything inconvenient like that.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
100. The fact that a generator can mimic every column he writes to the word . . . .
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:55 AM
Apr 2013

. . . speaks VOLUMES to his painful averageness he attests Americans can no longer possess if they want to compete.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. They do have certain talents
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:47 AM
Apr 2013

David brooks is great at saying "Calm down. Nothing needs to change" in a way that seems thoughtful and reasonable while he insults anyone who holds a different view as latte drinking airheads.

And Friedman is great at making status-quo conventional wisdom sound like it is some genius insight that he just came up with and is imparting to us mere mortals.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
24. my favorite Friedman stupidity: effect of Iraq War on oil price: $6 or $60 a barrel
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:16 AM
Apr 2013

Neither of Friedman's scenarios happened in reality and oil hovers around $100 a barrel now.

Oddly, Pat Robertson repeated pretty much the exact same line. Maybe it was to bait people too smart to buy the WMD and terrorist crap, but not quite smart enough to wonder why an administration wholly owned by the oil industry would fight a war to LOWER the price of oil.

But one thing I haven't seen much planning for is the impact an attack on Iraq would have on the world's oil market. Depending on how the war went, that impact could be very bad and lead to a sharp spike in oil prices, like $60-a-barrel oil. But -- wait a minute -- it could also be very good, and lead to $6-a-barrel oil that would weaken OPEC and, maybe, also weaken the Arab autocrats who depend on high oil prices to finance their illegitimate regimes and buy off opponents.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/31/opinion/6-or-60.html

JHB

(37,153 posts)
42. Hugh, that link is to the thread, and the radio link is a bit far down...
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

...so to lend a hand:

Direct link to post mentioning the NZ radio interview with TF
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2666380

Radio show itself (top of the list):
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/20111022

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
73. Thanks for the links -
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 04:30 PM
Apr 2013

Hard to link to the site . . . it's blocked by work firewall.

It's an amazing takedown (listen to Tommy Mustache squeal when he's called on his wealth) and a perfect example of how ridiculously uncaring and shilling our corporate-owned media really is.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
92. Thay're ridiculously uncaring and shilling because...
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:16 AM
Apr 2013

They're an integral part of the game of prostituting for the next $$$ and could care less if the rest of us get shat upon or barely have a pot to piss in (or are heading in that direction).

I continually wonder what the engame is that they and the rest of the upper-crust 1% really want. Do they really want a country/world where a single-digit percentage of the population has everything and the rest live in squalor? Sounds like a depressing scenario that a lot of third-world countries I can think of exist with.

Do they really want that?

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
15. Will we now see an outbreak of Unwavering Apologist avatars on DU?
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:46 AM
Apr 2013

Like the Sensible Woodchuck ones that were everywhere after Chuckles made his first appearance.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
26. Republicans hope their candidates will do what they say, Democrats hope they won't
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:19 AM
Apr 2013

Obama spewed the corporate DLC line all along, but we HOPED he'd CHANGE, first when he got elected, then when he got REELECTED.

If he didn't push for a truly progressive agenda when he had both chambers of Congress, there's no reason to expect it now.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
74. Spewed the Corporate line all along?
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 05:34 PM
Apr 2013

I don't think so.
Not in Campaign 2008 where Candidate Obama promised to:

*renegotiate NAFTA

*Make EFCA (Employee Free Choice Act) The Law of the Land

*Put on Comfortable Shoes and Walk the Line with Union strikers

*Raise Taxes on the RICH

*Require GMO warnings and Country of Origin Labels on all food sold in the USA

*Raise the Cap on FICA Deductions

He definitely sold himself as a Anti-Free Trade, Warrior for the Working Class,
and sold himself as the Anti-Clinton,
even making statements denying any ties to the DLC.
He made them take his name OFF their website.


....but I guess he was only "Bluffing" then too.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their promises or excuses.
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Skittles

(153,111 posts)
80. I asked one of them recently, "Do you even listen to yourself?"
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:34 PM
Apr 2013

they are so over-the-top ridiculous in their efforts to excuse the inexcusable

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
65. Comes with a discount coupon for "Its So Easy Even a Caveman Can Do It".
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:20 PM
Apr 2013

Tired of the caving, compromise and capitulation.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
31. "he should at least stop asking for tax increases in return" LMFAO
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:52 AM
Apr 2013

Yep that will be next. I mean how far can you bend over ...and for what? It's the elderly who will be doing the bending over for this fucked up cpi shit. I don't hate Obama but I don't like that fact that he is like all the others who say one thing during a campaign and then go back on what they said ...and far worse than that. No REAL Democrat would ever bring up an idea to change SS in any way that would make it worse for people ...and no REAL DU Democrat would support Obama's bringing SS cuts to the table. It's not part of the debt. Fucking reframers!

pa28

(6,145 posts)
51. MiddleMan seems to think Unwavering Apologist is kind of an annoying toadie.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:45 PM
Apr 2013

Maybe he can crash on the couch over at Chuckles the Sensible Woodchuck's house once he's outlived his usefulness.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
62. Monolog writers for the Tonight Show etc. used to lurk in ATJ....
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:41 PM
Apr 2013

Many was the time that I heard them repeat something I posted word for word.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
63. The Thomas Nast of our age.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:13 PM
Apr 2013

The UA woodchucks have avoided this thread, hoping it would die. They vomit their drivel all over threads with facts and OP's with carefully thought out commentary. But they are afraid of the cartoons. They are afraid of being branded as the asshole in the baby blue tights with the big yellow A on their chest.

Tom T helps recovering enablers and UAs wean themselves off of the kool aid.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
66. Thanks Tom, now we will get another angry letter
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:20 PM
Apr 2013

addressed to the Professional Left. Hopefully this time his braintrust will come up with a better adjective to describe us.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
68. Send To An Apologist In Your Life.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:46 PM
Apr 2013

Tom Tomorrow is brilliant x1000. The firm apologists just won't budge, Obama has a core of supporters that would stick with him no matter what, who can rationalize anything he does or says as he protects the plutocracy and asks the struggling to sacrifice. God forbid some multi millionaire would have to get by with 311 million rather than 347 million, better that Granny learns to like cat food.

Nice that he also took a nice shot at Friedman and Brooks and their word salad gobbledygook.

Skittles

(153,111 posts)
75. OMG!!!
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 05:36 PM
Apr 2013

Tom Tomorrow echoes me - anyone paying attention to the action WORDS Obama says would NOT BE SURPRISED!!!

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
85. It is not in Obama's hands
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:40 PM
Apr 2013

to show what a democrat stands for. It is in ours. Call every democratic congressman and legislator you know and tell them they will be primaried if they support chained CPI. Are we going to just sit here silent. Not me. It is up to us to show who we are as democrats. We have to quit whining and keep organizing.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
91. Actually I believe it is
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 12:29 AM
Apr 2013

"It is not in Obama's hands to show what a democrat stands for."

And it's not whining to call him on it. I'm all for organizing, though, let's get some real Dems elected! Primaries are our greatest point of leverage.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
98. Wow, talk about dead on...
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 09:43 AM
Apr 2013

TT does it again...and I will admit it kind of stings as for the longest time I wanted to believe that Obama was working for our interests, just doing it from different angles (11-dimensioal chess, as it were), but alas, just another pol working for the oligarchy.

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