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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:16 PM Apr 2013

Gun Rights Advocate Reveals Key Role In Writing Manchin-Toomey Background Checks Amendment


Gun Rights Advocate Reveals Key Role In Writing Manchin-Toomey Background Checks Amendment

The Second Amendment Foundation’s Alan Gottlieb shared a little “inside baseball” about the recent Senate compromise on background checks for gun purchases with a group of supporters at a Portland, Oregon golf club Friday. According to Gottlieb’s speech, caught on camera by Daylight Disinfectant‘s Dan Sandini, members of the gun rights organization were in the room with Senators Joe Manchin III (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA) when they were writing their amendment, with the intention of creating a “pro-gun bill.”

“I spent hours and hours with Senator Manchin and Pat Toomey going over what’s in that bill,” Gottlieb told the crowd. He went on the outline the various “protections” he says he helped insert into the amendment that would prevent gun dealers from prison terms and lawsuits for failing to properly conduct the background checks that the bill is intended to require.

“It’s a Christmas Tree,” Gottlieb asserted, “and we just hung a million ornaments on it. We’re taking the background check and making it a pro-gun bill.” He predicted, “this will probably break on Monday in the Wall Street Journal. So your getting a little ‘inside baseball’ right now.” He admitted that he was working to implement some background checks in an effort to prevent more comprehensive and effective legislation from passing in Congress. “I think we snookered the other side,” Gottlieb concluded, “and they haven’t figured it out yet.”

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Full article and VIDEO here: http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-gun-rights-advocate-reveals-key-role-in-writing-manchin-toomey-background-checks-amendment/



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Gun Rights Advocate Reveals Key Role In Writing Manchin-Toomey Background Checks Amendment (Original Post) Tx4obama Apr 2013 OP
Kick! n/t Tx4obama Apr 2013 #1
Let the arms race begin neverforget Apr 2013 #2
What a farce. nt octoberlib Apr 2013 #3
The 'compromise' bill is worthless and toothless. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #4
More likely all involved will call it a success and other legislation ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #11
It's the best the gun lobby could have hoped for. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #12
By the time things get done, it could be a net plus for gun rights ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #14
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #5
The current compromise will help keep some guns out of the hands of the dumb and unmotivated. aikoaiko Apr 2013 #6
The 'loophole' in it is too big ... Tx4obama Apr 2013 #7
Why are you surprised? Gun control advocates were *always* going to get played. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #8
To a certain extent this legislation is a product of the gun controllers rhetoric aikoaiko Apr 2013 #9
I'm stunned to hear this. 99Forever Apr 2013 #10
Do you remembr the days when government kept corporations in check Blue Idaho Apr 2013 #13
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. The 'compromise' bill is worthless and toothless.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:32 AM
Apr 2013

Let it die with the public seeing the truth rather than pass this crap off as reform.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
14. By the time things get done, it could be a net plus for gun rights
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:36 PM
Apr 2013

depending on what amendments make it through the process and then the house.

Reid and the administration are looking for something they can take credit for, and this may well be all they get.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
6. The current compromise will help keep some guns out of the hands of the dumb and unmotivated.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:05 AM
Apr 2013


That's something.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
7. The 'loophole' in it is too big ...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:09 AM
Apr 2013

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As under current law, transfers between family, friends, and neighbors do not require background checks. You can give or sell a gun to your brother, your neighbor, your coworker without a background check. You can post a gun for sale on the cork bulletin board at your church or your job without a background check.


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Article here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022649387



So, folks can still privately sell their guns to ''... friends, family, and neighbors..." without background checks who may be felons and/or have mental issues.
And to folks at work and church that they might not even know.

That is a HUGE LOOPHOLE!
 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
8. Why are you surprised? Gun control advocates were *always* going to get played.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:14 AM
Apr 2013

The White House, for all their fine words, knew from the start that substantial new gun control
measures would never make it through the House.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
9. To a certain extent this legislation is a product of the gun controllers rhetoric
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:04 AM
Apr 2013

For years they screamed about the "gun show loophole". Now when a law is framed that way they are saying it needs to be more conprehensive. Well that's not what they've been selling for the last decade.

Blue Idaho

(5,038 posts)
13. Do you remembr the days when government kept corporations in check
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013

Instead of corporations keeping government in check?


Remember the NRA is just the weapons industry's lightening rod - ignore them and go directly after the gun makers and it will have outlived its usefulness.

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