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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:25 PM Apr 2013

And the Dead "Little Ones" sleep...vicitims of Violence...New Ones Every Day!

Last edited Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:11 PM - Edit history (3)

The lifeless bodies of Afghan children lay on the ground before their funeral ceremony, after an airstrike on their extended family household by order of President Barack Obama killed several Afghan adults and at least ten children in Shultan, Shigal district, Kunar, eastern Afghanistan, Sunday, April 7, 2013. (AP Photo)



Date: April 7, 2013

Place: Shigal District of Kunar Province

Circumstances: Eleven children and four women were killed by a NATO airstrike on houses in the Shigal District. Mohammad Zahir Safai, the Shigal district chief, said the woman and the children were killed when the houses collapsed on them. A Reuters journalist saw bodies of 11 children when they were taken to Safai’s office in protest by their families and other villagers on Sunday.

NATO/ISAF response: Captain Luca Carniel, a spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), said they were aware of reports of civilian casualties and were assessing the incident.


http://vcnv.org/atrocities-in-afghanistan-a-troubling-timetable-updated-1

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Obama, With Newtown Families, Demands Gun Control Vote
By Mary Bruce | ABC OTUS News – Tue, Apr 9, 2013

Nearly four months since the tragedy in Newtown, the president promised the parents of the slain children that "we will not walk away from the promises we've made."

"We want you to know that we're here with you," he said. "We are as determined as ever to do what must be done."

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/MIEB7_6yHtSYLK4aipGPnA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MzYwO2NyPTE7Y3c9NjQwO2R4PTA7ZHk9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD0zNTU7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/

Before his remarks, the president met privately with several families of children who died in the Sandy Hook shooting. Many of those families then boarded Air Force One on their way to Washington to lobby Congress.

"If there's even one thing we can do to protect our kids, don't we have an obligation to try? If there's even one step we can take to keep somebody from murdering dozens of innocents in the span of minutes, shouldn't we be taking that step? If there's just one thing we can do to keep one father from having to bury his child, isn't that worth fighting for?" Obama said.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-newtown-families-demands-gun-control-vote-233418776--abc-news-politics.html


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Prism

(5,815 posts)
1. I see why you're having a problem with this
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:36 PM
Apr 2013

It's really not our fault. You see, we don't have any kindergarten photos of the Afghan children. No parents or aunts and uncles on the news explaining how they liked soccer or books. We have no idea what they wanted to when they grew up.

So, really, those kids practically shouldnt count to Americans. Where is the media package, damnit?! If we don't hear it, and we don't see it, and we don't know they're just like our kids, why bother our beautiful minds with it?

/ sarcasm

Our politics are an illness. We perpetrate so many Newtowns on the rest of the world, defend them as the cost of empire, then demand "Why isn't anyone doing anything?!" when we experience even a sliver of the grief our government doles out in our name on a regular basis.

And worse, we're supposed to be the empathetic, compassionate party.

Ha.

Powerful post, Koko.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
3. Selling guns = exporting death
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:51 PM
Apr 2013

U.S. Arms Sales Make Up Most of Global Market

WASHINGTON — Weapons sales by the United States tripled in 2011 to a record high, driven by major arms sales to Persian Gulf allies concerned about Iran’s regional ambitions, according to a new study for Congress.

Overseas weapons sales by the United States totaled $66.3 billion last year, or more than three-quarters of the global arms market, valued at $85.3 billion in 2011. Russia was a distant second, with $4.8 billion in deals.

The American weapons sales total was an “extraordinary increase” over the $21.4 billion in deals for 2010, the study found, and was the largest single-year sales total in the history of United States arms exports. The previous high was in fiscal year 2009, when American weapons sales overseas totaled nearly $31 billion.

A worldwide economic decline had suppressed arms sales over recent years. But increasing tensions with Iran drove a set of Persian Gulf nations — Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Oman — to purchase American weapons at record levels.
...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/world/middleeast/us-foreign-arms-sales-reach-66-3-billion-in-2011.html



KoKo

(84,711 posts)
6. We can no longer afford this...but, it's too late to stop it.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 08:38 AM
Apr 2013

It's ignored. War is a wonderful distraction. Makes the weak feel powerful when all else is falling apart. That's my worry. We are dug in too deep all over the world now.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
7. How many people have to die to protect them from a "one world order" that ends freelance killing
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:34 PM
Apr 2013

created and maintained by private war profiteers with uncontrolled assault weapons markets that are protected by the NRA's ownership of the U.S. Congress, e.g. S. 2205 The Second Amendment Sovereignty Act of 2012 (currently sponsored by Sen. Jerry Moran of Kansas, but known also to be one of Ron & Rand Paul's projects, currently under the blessing of one Dennis Kucinich's benign neglect).

Some thoughts about dead innocent people killed by us/we/ME/you, the United States, BOTH officially and on a freelance basis:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=journals&uid=113133

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
9. Never thought about it as "Free Lance Killing"...but given that
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:40 PM
Apr 2013

we don't policy in place for an independent review of who is on the kill list how are we to know what's going on. Since President Obama has been reported to have a "Kill List" and he's the Commander in Chief of the Airstrike/Drone Button Order to Kill" then I wonder if "Free Lance" in some way couldn't be what's going on here. Who is telling the President who deserves to dies and ignoring the "Collateral Damage." Is he the intermediary or the Commander-in-Chief?

What if the "Newtown School" was located in Afghanistan and the Principal was a known Terrorist on our Targeted Kill list and he was the week's target to be "Taken Out." Would our President give the Kill order to those who "push the button" to "take 'em out?"

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
8. Another glorious victory for American arms.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:38 PM
Apr 2013
What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy. - Gandhi

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
10. The problem goes back to the founding of this country. We have been
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:47 PM
Apr 2013

killing First Nation Americans since we arrived here without ever having to make noteworthy reparations or pay for the crimes committed against them. We enslaved millions of Africans and have done little to make up for our crimes in reparations. So we have no problem committing genocide when other people get in our way because we never pay for it. Until our criminals are brought to justice, it will keep happening. I'm not blaming our present President for this state of affairs because the policy has been in place since the beginning. We have to change that and we have to start making reparations in order to reverse this tragedy perpetrated by our country. Then we need to put laws into place so that any one of our leaders who do this again in the future will be brought to justice and made to pay for the crimes perpetrated.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
11. Why are we so quick to claim 'propaganda' if it is in our press, but
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:43 PM
Apr 2013

other presses are just telling the truth?

These children are supposed to be subjects of bombing, yet not a scratch on any face..? Could this be propaganda?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
12. I think because they were the ones who had the "covered up"
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:32 PM
Apr 2013

bodies where they were injured. The other ones were unrecognizable.

The photo is from AP...which is not know to be a source that favors Propaganda...unless it's from Our Government. So obviously what the reporter/photographer saw there was so terrible that they culled out the best...because they were upset with the rest that they saw.

Just saying.

Those aren't the only children killed in Afghanistan ....think of all the Innocents killed in Iraq. But, the American People were denied photos of the War Atrocities that were done...because it was OUR WAR.

After all these years that we discount these killing of "Innocents" as "Collateral Damage" is Disgusting.

Are you trying to say that you don't believe that Innocent Children, Women and Elderly and innocent Men were targeted by our Drones or Bombs in the Iraq/Afghanistan Wars we've been in that are longer than any active wars in American History?

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