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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:09 PM Apr 2013

Go Judges! Judges threaten Gov. Jerry Brown with contempt of court

SACRAMENTO — A panel of federal judges Thursday threatened to hold Gov. Jerry Brown and other state officials in contempt of court if they do not quickly produce a plan to remove thousands of convicts from California's packed prisons.

In a blistering 71-page ruling, the jurists rejected Brown's bid to end restrictions they imposed on crowding in the lockups. The state cannot maintain inmate numbers that violate orders intended to eliminate dangerous conditions behind bars, they said.

Brown and other officials "will not be allowed to continue to violate the requirements of the Constitution of the United States," the judges wrote.

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On Thursday, all three jurists stood behind the population caps they previously ordered — and the U.S. Supreme Court upheld — as a remedy for what they have called substandard conditions due to overcrowding, resulting in unconstitutionally poor inmate care.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prisons-20130412,0,6359134.story

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Go Judges! Judges threaten Gov. Jerry Brown with contempt of court (Original Post) cali Apr 2013 OP
So now they don't like the most liberal governor of any state of all time? Amazing. graham4anything Apr 2013 #1
read the article, for fuck's sake. cali Apr 2013 #2
And here you are again. Are you advocating that our elected officials violate court rulings now? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #6
If today is Tuesday, this must be Belgium graham4anything Apr 2013 #9
Not necessarily. I was in Belgium on a weekend. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #10
I'll follow Jerry Brown to the end of the world. And back again. True visionary. graham4anything Apr 2013 #12
What if it was Vegas and they released OJ Simpson? graham4anything Apr 2013 #14
I sorely miss Susanne Pleshette indepat Apr 2013 #13
Me too. graham4anything Apr 2013 #17
All so sad. Jonathan Winters was inimitable. indepat Apr 2013 #19
Even the most liberal politicians can get it wrong on some issues . . . markpkessinger Apr 2013 #11
I am sure he will do the right thing. Sometimes the job has different things than the person graham4anything Apr 2013 #18
Sounds like Go Vols Apr 2013 #3
Good for them. The California prison system, well all of our system, is a crime, literally a crime sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #4
They've been under a court order; they were trying to get out from under it. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #5
I read about this about this around a year ago and was horrified by the conditions of those prisons. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #8
yeah, it's horrific. I've been following this with frustration. cali Apr 2013 #7
CCA can go fuck off and die the horrible death it deserves. Initech Apr 2013 #15
Makes me wonder fredamae Apr 2013 #16
The more 'bodies' the more money. Disgusting, isn't here how we have regressed as a nation? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #20
A major contributor imo fredamae Apr 2013 #21
Break out the pardon pen, commute to parole Babel_17 Apr 2013 #22
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
1. So now they don't like the most liberal governor of any state of all time? Amazing.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:13 PM
Apr 2013

what a topsy turvy world when people are against the legendary Jerry Brown
who almost made history in 1992 with Jesse Jackson, til racism reared its ugly head

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. read the article, for fuck's sake.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:15 PM
Apr 2013

and he is not the most liberal governor of any state of all time and this has jackshit to do with liking him.

Fucking ridiculous.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. And here you are again. Are you advocating that our elected officials violate court rulings now?
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:18 PM
Apr 2013

Thank god for the courts, they are the last resort for this country as we have seen so many times over the past several years.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. Not necessarily. I was in Belgium on a weekend.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:24 PM
Apr 2013

Try thinking for yourself, outside of the box, it's a big world outside partisanship, with lots of possibilities for improvement.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
12. I'll follow Jerry Brown to the end of the world. And back again. True visionary.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:26 PM
Apr 2013

I remember when Mike Dukakis let Willie Horton go.
Then was blamed for it.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
17. Me too.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:36 PM
Apr 2013

I was just talking about her this morning to someone when we were talking about Jonathan Winters dying and the connection with Bob Newhart.

markpkessinger

(8,381 posts)
11. Even the most liberal politicians can get it wrong on some issues . . .
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:26 PM
Apr 2013

. . . and this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. When they do get it horribly wrong -- be it Brown on prison overcrowding or the President on chained CPI -- it is only right that they be called out on it. I truly cannot understand the mindset that thinks that because a politician has gotten it right on some issues , he or she is owed blind loyalty even when he or she gets it wrong.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
18. I am sure he will do the right thing. Sometimes the job has different things than the person
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:40 PM
Apr 2013

He personally may want one thing, whereas the job requires him to attempt to do the other
Laws are laws rules are rules
(that is the problem some always forget, especially in NYC)

But who is released and who isn't?
And what if the wrong people are released?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Good for them. The California prison system, well all of our system, is a crime, literally a crime
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:16 PM
Apr 2013

in progress.

I thought this was done long ago, but apparently it was not.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
5. They've been under a court order; they were trying to get out from under it.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:18 PM
Apr 2013

But no luck until they finish cleaning up the prison mess.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. I read about this about this around a year ago and was horrified by the conditions of those prisons.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:20 PM
Apr 2013

How on earth can we go around the world telling people how to run democracies when we are running virtual gulags here, and many of them for profit?

I am glad they cannot get out from under it. They should not. Maybe if they spend a few days in one of those prisons they will change their tune a little.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
22. Break out the pardon pen, commute to parole
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:49 PM
Apr 2013

lots of non-violent offenders. Priority to those that behaved well when locked up.

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