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proposal to impose the chained CPI.
I am hereby checking in. In 2010, I voted for my Democratic congressman whom I really admire and like.
It's really important to respond to this thread because a lot of critics of those who do not like chained CPI are claiming that we didn't vote in the 2010 election.
That is false.
And besides, voting in that election would not have made any difference. There is a sort of top-down desire to destroy Social Security that is sponsored and promoted by Pete Peterson.
Check this out. Another DUer posted this and I want to credit him/her.
http://americablog.com/2012/05/pete-petersen-hosts-bill-clinton-paul-ryan-simpson-van-hollen-to-discuss-social-security-compromise
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I never miss an election. I am very much against this new proposal.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)but I always vote with the hope we'll eventually see a change. I do not agree with President Obama's decision to offer up Social Security benefits to try to appease the Republicans.....if that's even why he did it. Who knows? It's left me dumbfounded.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Fat lot of good that did!
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)should have to "prove" anything to anyone. Exit polling proves wrong the urban legend that "libruls" cost the 2010 election.
QC
(26,371 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)But we still ended up with Toomey - the conservative's conservative. Eeecch!
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)catrose
(5,059 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Or so it seems sometimes. Always vote and nearly always Democratic. I might vote Republican if Tom McCall were to come back from the dead and run for some office.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)But I think the people who ordinarily don't vote and got excited about Obama were the ones who stayed home.
DearHeart
(692 posts)markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)LeftInTX
(25,126 posts)The Tea Party did a good job with lack of border security, taxing us to death, paling with terrorists, anti-patriotic, birtherism, muslim, socialist health care, government takeovers, mediscare etc. etc.
And of course, I voted to get rid of Rick Perry - lot of good that did.
gateley
(62,683 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Mostly because Michigan sealed its fate by electing Koch-in-training Rick Snyder.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...of course I voted in 2010. Straight Democratic ticket.
But we don't have to justify ourselves to those who try to use "you didn't vote in 2010" as a talking point. They are being disingenuous and they know it. It's just a talking point they are using today to try and squash dissent on this topic.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Response to merrily (Reply #29)
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Triana
(22,666 posts)...I voted in 2010 for a Dem rep, but since they gerrymandered the crap out of the state, it wasn't the Dem rep I wanted - which was the same one I'd had for over 2 decades. Still, I did vote and I oppose the hell out of Obama's Chained CPI.
magellan
(13,257 posts)Useless as it was at the time, I still hauled my ass to the polls.
And a big FU to whoever thought it was a great idea putting CCPI on the table.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Third Way blaming the eeeeevil Left again.
Great stuff.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I can't remember the last time I missed an election, including city, state and national. I definitely voted in 2010 for Scott McAdams (who was beaten by Lisa Murkowski in the write-in). I frequently disagree with the way President Obama does things. I don't hate him, I was glad he defeated Romney, but he is not in line with my political viewpoints.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)AND I oppose the chained CPI. The social safety net for our most vulnerable citizens should not a bargaining chip in budget negotiations, especially when SS contributes $0 to the deficit.
TheKentuckian
(25,020 posts)Beyond disgusted.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)with any plan to change the COLA.
KauaiK
(544 posts)I voted; I supported Obama & vehemently oppose chained CPI. I sent an email to the White House. Close the corporate tax loophole & subsidies; offshore tax havens repeal the Bush tax cuts.
To paraphrase FDR: The test of progress not whether abundance is added to those have much, but whether enough is provided to those who have too little.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)But, I'm considerig sitting out the rest of my life.
I'm tired of getting fucked by both parties. And I've only ever voted for one party. Democrats.
Maybe I'll go Green or Commie.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Despise chained CPI, despise the offer of it, despise the door it opens.
I just laugh at the assertion that if I hate chained CPI, I am responsible for 2010.
Or Ralph Nader.
I am getting creeped out by the insistence of some that we should "love" a president.
He is an elected politician - being treated by some as some sort of rock star or whatever.
I don't hate Obama, I think it ridiculous to swoon over him.
Anyway, Obama is not running for reelection, so why, exactly, is it necessary to "love" him?
Ridiculous, and a bit cult-ish.
As far as saying oh, yeah, chained CPI not so good, but hey! DOMA! - WTF?
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)It was no great accomplishment and seldom is as my district always goes blue, but I show anyway mostly out of habit these days. It is much harder for those in neighboring districts like around Amherst NY, very conservative and very Republican.
I have at the same time been opposed to the grand third way plan to "reform" "entitlements" in "serious" and "balanced" ways since way before Obama became their new favorite puppet and all their words started coming out of his mouth.
The reason I vote straight working party is because they endorse the most progressive Democrats in the primaries and they represent me better on issues than the "new" Democratic party AKA Pete Peterson's other purchased party leadership, he likes a matching blue and red set.
By the way, the working families party does not endorse this chained CPI scheme to further erode the safety net any more than I do.
http://www.workingfamiliesparty.org/
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Anyone who says "well you didn't vote in the last midterm election therefore you really have no right to be critical of proposals to tie Social Security benefits to chained CPI" is a bit of a ****. (If I were to use the word that's called for, this post would be deleted.)
TDale313
(7,820 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and though I will vote for a dead dog rather than GOP, I oppose this.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Other than a few municipal ones in odd-numbered years when I was in grad school.
carolinayellowdog
(3,247 posts)to the ineptitude of the president and congress as displayed in the grotesque health care negotations
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)but now refuses to promise not to cut SS/
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)spanone
(135,791 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I walked down to the County Clerk's office for early voting. I'm in a solidly blue district where my vote was really irrelevant, but I always vote, and I needed the exercise anyway.
Then I took a bus to Massachusetts and spent a few days doing phoning and canvassing for Elizabeth Warren. On Election Day I phoned an elderly woman whose ride had fallen through and had given up on voting. While still on the phone with her, I was giving the phone bank captain her info. Someone from our volunteer driver corps was en route to her before she'd finished telling me how much she liked Elizabeth Warren.
Whatever other votes I may have generated through my work, I know I can claim at least that one.
And, yes, I oppose the chained CPI, and I especially oppose Obama's tactical decision to propose it right off the bat, which was simply bad negotiating.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I also go to caucuses and many meet and greets, townhalls and assorted teleconferences when possible.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I've never not voted.
I have also never been a fan of Obama's.
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)I still supported the Democratic candidate in 2010. I will vote in 2014 also, most likely for Democrats unless they are totally in the tank for corporate new speak (I live in New York - we can't let that type gain control of our Party.
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)He subsequently signed marijuana legalization into law (after the citizens voted on it) as well as gun restrictions.
Also voted for Michael Bennet, the center-right Democratic candidate. We got that Senate seat back iirc. He co-sponsered PIPA but after his constituents gave him a call he changed his view on it.
Unfortunately, Doug Lamborn, the congressman in my red district, stayed in his seat.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)straight Dem ticket. I completely opposed to Chained CPI
dawg
(10,621 posts)Even though I knew I was going to wind up with Paul Broun, I wanted my Democratic vote to be counted.
Apophis
(1,407 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)I showed up to vote for a Blue Dog who I am not all that crazy about.
In 2012, that same Blue Dog ran away from the Democratic Party and President Obama but he did feel that the support he received from the NRA was important to voters.
So now we have a Repub as our Rep. Go figure. *Sighs Heavily*
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)By a good Democrat I mean one who basically agrees with our party platform and takes pride in our accomplishments.
But hey, if it will calm things down to attest to my bona fides, yeah, I voted in 2010 and I oppose the administration's profferings regarding the Chained CPI.