This is why I support My President, 100%

[Lady Freedom Returns]

This is the President I came to face with in Joplin, MO. when my world was falling apart.

He was and is confidant.



Yet he will cry with you and hold you.


He gave me courage! He IS MY President!

He asked me if I was OK.
I was try to help with clean up. I found some boards wit a lot of blood on them. It all hit at once. The group I was with had me go take a break. He was coming down with the group you see in the first pick. He saw I was crying. He pointed at me "Hey Miss? Are you OK? What do you need?". I was able to see his eyes. He meant it.

I had seen so many that came in for photo opts and they would ask the same thing, but they didn't have any real feelings in their eyes. But he did. He told some aid to get me some water and to check about some food. He wanted to help.

After that simple exchange, he went on the rest of the tour. But I know I will never forget how he helped my spirit.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11028856#post12

(Personal Note)
And yes I did post this in the Barack Obama Group. I placed it there due to being scared of all the negative responses. But if President Obama was willing to tour the disaster area that was my home. With reports that said that cave ins from unmarked mines were possible and were unsure where they would open up, thanks to extreme ground shaking that the tornado caused. Then I can face opposition to support him!

[FSogol]

1. K & R. n/t

[demwing]

2. that's a very sweet story

But don't you think its possible that he can be kind, caring, and compassionate-- but still be wrong on some subjects ?

[Lady Freedom Returns]

3. I really don't care.

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[demwing]

6. You don't care if he's wrong about cutting Social Security?

You don't care?

[Lady Freedom Returns]

17. President Barack Obama has a plan. I trust him 100%. n/t

[zipplewrath]

37. Like for the public option and single payer

Those kinds of plans?
Maybe it's like the plans he had for Mandatory Health insurance when he was a candidate.
Or is it like the plans for closing Gitmo?
Maybe it's like the plans for prosecuting tortures, or banks that conducted illegal foreclosures.
Is it like the plans for the banks where they got all their bonuses?

Is it those kinds of plans you trust him for because of a momentary bit of political optics?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

252. Z I N G !

Funny how facts can destroy an emotionally based bit of fluff.

[Marr]

137. Well then, don't be surprised when people don't take you seriously.

Your devotion sounds almost religious.

[cvoogt]

144. My only wish

is for Obama to be the change he wishes to see in the world. We voted for change; he certainly delivered that 100%.

[Auntie Bush]

207. So do I!

I too trust him 100% I will give him my total support and he will give us the same.

[Rex]

14. Thanks, that is all I needed to know.

nt.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

39. I trust President Obama. He has a plan. n/t

[markpkessinger]

91. Oh, he has a plan alright n/t

[Whisp]

129. Sorry you are taking heat, Lady.

but you and I and many, many others know that, in time, you will be the one that is right and all the ones who are jumping to bad conclusions about Obama will be wrong, once again. This is an old Play we have seen a few times here.

[Rex]

242. As someone else posted, 'I don't really care.'

[frylock]

31. of course you don't..

bless you lil heart.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

36. I don't. He has a plan, I know and believe he knows what he is doing.

I trust him. I back him 100%.

[frylock]

38. yeh, we've established that..

blind faith. good for you. we used to ridicule people like you that held the same belief in bush.

[brentspeak]

115. I'm sorry, but the way you keep repeating yourself

and praising Obama in cartoonish deified terms, as though he wasn't just a President but rather a a god, makes you sound like you're high on something.

[Whisp]

135. and you sound like you are low on something.

Jump right on! There is still some room. O, wait, I think you have been riding for quite some time now.

[MissDeeds]

84. Wow

So it's just about you? You don't care how many people may suffer because of his choices? I think your comment says a great deal about you. I'm very sorry you are so self centered and callous to the suffering of others.

[one_voice]

5. You didn't ask me...

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but yes, I think President Obama can be all those things. Right on some things half right on others and wrong on some.

That being said, it would be nice if some people on here would say the same and not just constantly shit all over him. Works both ways.


edited because punctuation does a sentence good.

[demwing]

8. but I appreciate the response

and agree with your post.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

11. I was not going to, but I will elaborate...

I Trust President Obama! He is working on something, a plan. And I will give him my FULL backing because I Trust him.

[frylock]

35. Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision he makes..

and should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens.

[theaocp]

60. I agree.

[Whisp]

139. of course, because we all know how similiar The Chimperor and President Obama are!

jeebus freakin' crispies.

but have your fun, it will be short lived and most likely we will not see you again for a while, when this story proves not to be exactly as illustrated.

until the next fake 'offense', then.

[theaocp]

151. What's it like to be deliberately obtuse?

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, of course. I'm not comparing the two presidents, which you probably know, or are too painfully ignorant to recognize, but rather the idea of blind trust.

[Whisp]

157. you can keep it.

no need to give me anything.

pack light, you will be returning soon to the newest Obama Outrage™ when this one rightfully runs out of steam because it's just a bunch of bullshit.

[theaocp]

160. Yet still worth your time to stick around, huh?

The only way this runs out of steam is for Obama to backtrack on Chained CPI. Why don't you help him out on that? Frightened Americans want to know.

[demwing]

206. OK. The comparison wasn't between the two Presidents

it was between the supporters of those two men. The mindless dedication, the unquestioning, incurious acceptance of authority for the sake of authority.


damn...

[frylock]

257. there are striking similarities between their most ardent supporters

[Whisp]

259. no there aren't

Please don't insult us all like that. There are more Obama supporters here than there are of your camp, even though the screaming is louder. How dare you pedal teabag shittery here.

[Jamaal510]

260. "The Chimperor"

[Liberal_in_LA]

4. thank you for posting this. Too much Obama bashing lately

[rhett o rick]

114. Interesting as to why she would post it here. In the BOG there is no bashing if that's what you

want. Makes one wonder if she is trying to attract the bashing here.

Outside the BOG "holding the President accountable = bashing"



Dear Mr. President, listen to the millions of 99%'ers and please do not cut SS benefits. Please raise the cap.

[pnwmom]

136. I see. So this forum is limited to criticism of Obama?

If you're not criticizing him, you need to go to the BOG?

[rhett o rick]

167. I can always count on you to twist what I say.

I will go thru is slower.

If you want an open discussion, this is the place.

If you feel any and all criticisms of our president are "bashing" then maybe you should stay in the BOG.

Seem to me like some what it both ways.

We all think Pres Obama is a warm and loving individual and certainly better than any Republican. Some of us want to remind him that we elected him to represent us and not the 1%. Others here are looking for someone to trust unequivocally. I can see how that would make life easier.

[pnwmom]

265. She did want an open discussion -- of what she actually posted,

which was about her experience in Joplin, Missouri.

But you seem to think that any positive post belongs on BOG -- or else it should be turned into open season on attacking Obama.

[bigtree]

225. that's what I got from that

. . .with all of the unadulterated criticism that flies around here, much of it having NOTHING to do with the op, there's plenty of room for a post like this.

It's just that some folks see these types of compliment posts as an opportunity to just unload on the posters with personal attacks and ridicule. It's a despicable practice which always challenges my faith in, and regard for people. But hey, they were just making suggestions to be helpful . . . right.

Some folks ask me why I post positive stuff about the President and first family. It's because I recognize that there has been a net positive of good from this presidency and this administration which is deliberately obscured and ignored in the normal course of most advocacy.

We can forget that there are many, many issues where this president has responded exactly as we would hope he would and that many, many folks have experienced that first hand. Some folks bother to come here and express that, only to run up against others determined to stifle ANY positive opinions about this administration's initiatives and actions.

I can take the criticisms. they are a necessary part of advocacy and dissent. I can't tolerate the de-humanizing of Barack Obama or his family though. It's uncalled for, imo, and it's often lurid and positively obscene. The personal attacks on posters and supporters of the president are the worst, though. On a board where you'll regularly find some 80 to 90% of posts about the President critical of some policy or action, you'd think that folks here would provide some room and comity for something different and something which challenges the cynical conventional wisdom on this board.

What critics of positive posts really seem to want is to preserve this as an anti-establishment forum; albeit that there's an unavoidable dynamic having a Democrat in office that makes that pursuit an anti-Obama one. Kinda of sad to run into that on a forum where the first part of the moniker is 'Democratic.'

[AnotherMcIntosh]

118. She posted this as bait. If not, why didn't she post in the BOG?

[pnwmom]

138. Since when are positive posts off limits for GD? n/t

[AnotherMcIntosh]

153. Since never. But if someone wants to create a situation in which to claim that their

feelings are hurt by those who express less than 100% admiration and less than 100% agreement, this is the way to do it.

No one should be surprised when liberals disagree. That's one characteristic of what we do.

Since when its it off limits to express disagreement with those who post in GD?

[pnwmom]

161. Why are you claiming she's trying to "create a situation" based on this simple post?

"This is the President I came to face with in Joplin, MO. when my world was falling apart.

"He was and is confidant."


You didn't just express disagreement with OP -- which I would have no problem with. You suggested that posts like hers should be banished to the BOG. Should there also be a special forum for habitual "bashers"?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

180. That's a falsehood. I did not suggest that the OP should be BANISHED to the BOG.

Saying so is not true. It is bullshit.

It's her choice as to whether to post in the GD or the BOG.

At most, I suggested that she might be happier with her post in the BOG. This suggestion was made for the obvious reason that such a post would not generate any replies that would be less than 100% support for Obama.

You can criticize my post. But you have no right to falsely claim that I suggested that "posts like hers should be banished to the BOG." It's not true. You should knock it off.

And what do you mean by "habitual 'bashers'?" Is that another phrase for "purists"?

[pnwmom]

194. You said that if she wasn't posting it as "bait" she should have put it in BOG.

So pro-Obama posts belong in the BOG, according to you, unless they are meant to be "bait."

You should knock it off.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

195. Do you have a comprehension problem? I can give you an explanation. I can't give you understanding

Re-read what was posted. Re-read what was actually posted. And stop make up what wasn't posted.

Making up what wasn't posted is dishonest. This is not our first exchange of such dishonesty.

I'm putting you back on ignore.

[pnwmom]

200. You apparently didn't read your own post. How odd. Maybe someone else

posted this for you?

"She posted this as bait. If not, why didn't she post in the BOG?"

[Marr]

143. Someone must go unto the heathens and spread the light of His word.

I guess.

[AverageJoe90]

123. Agreed. WAY too much.

I know there's some who have absolute faith in their belief that Obama is doomed to fail and/or is secretly helping the Republicans, or whatever, but didn't they learn their lesson when he & other Dems kicked ass in last year's elections?

TBH, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being critical of the President when it's needed. But too much criticism is indicative of a problem, and unfortunately, it appears that said problem is a bit substantial at the moment(this coming from a former hardcore Obama critic, btw)

[Liberal_in_LA]

147. '

[MisterP]

255. y'know, those are just his own speeches and actions ...

[randome]

7. Glad you posted it here, too!

For what it's worth, though, it's okay to support him 99% instead of 100%.

[one_voice]

9. Nice post.

[Armstead]

10. He has many admirable qualities -- But he is locked into status quo Corporate Politics

Personal kindness is not the same as political compassion.

He has been all too willing to give up his professed principles to get ahead and make deals.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

24. He has a plan. I back him 100%, n/t

[Armstead]

189. Can you fill me in on this plan?

Often when he makes speeches,I feel like I am on the same page as he is. He expresses what I believe very well, when he's trying to win people over.

But his actions too often undercut the lofty rhetoric.

[Marr]

240. No no-- He works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform.

None can know His plan. It is ineffable. It cannot be f'd.

[JimDandy]

276. Hee hee.

"It cannot be f'd."

[randome]

26. Like pushing for gay rights? Pushing for gun control?

Pushing for equitable taxation? Getting health care passed for pre-existing conditions and contraceptive coverage?

Those are principles the vast majority of us believe in.

Is he perfect? Hell, no. But to say he has no principles that we should support is absurd.

[Frustratedlady]

76. Some forget it is easy to criticize but forget to tell us how they would fix the problem.

President Obama is leading the WHOLE country, not just the parts of the country where the DU members live. He can't satisfy all, but he has sure done a better job than his predecessor. Am I happy about the SS deal? No, but I'm thankful for what I DO get. Am I happy about the 1%? No, but I don't think their lot in life is going to improve as it has in recent history and some may even end up in a conversation with those people from the IRS.

I doubt there is one single person on DU that could do a better job. Sure, you can take each issue and give your opinion, but let's hear the opinion you would give to ALL citizens of the US and then we'll sit back and see how much flak you get.

OH, and remember that you have to solve our problems with half the country blocking every step of the way, a nasty group who wants to do you in and an organization that wants to arm them to get the job done.

Now, make us all happy.

[sulphurdunn]

128. We hired him to try and solve

problems, not sell us out.

[Whisp]

141. how many times now have you been 'sold out'.

Many, by my count of the usual screaming hair on fire. You would think one can only be sold out once - hmmmm.

Interesting concept of trade and economics - that you can be sold out over and over without resupplying the shelves... Why do you continually resupply your shelves if you have no faith and trust in the President?

[randome]

148. LOL! Nice analogy!

[sulphurdunn]

154. I worked for this man's campaign.

Did you? I gave him money. Did you? I heard him declare that he was going after war criminals, crooked bankers, would protect the need and that he would stand up to insane republicans. Instead he has sold out to crooked bankers, has become a war criminal, kisses the ass of the Republican Party and is doing his goddamn best to screw the needy. Hair on fire my ass. Furthermore, trying to make a silly analogy between supply and demand economics and a political double-cross isn't worthy of further comment.

[Whisp]

156. I invented the Post-It notes. n/t

[sulphurdunn]

184. You're Art Fry?

I must concede that your invention in 1977 of the post-it note ranks up there with sliced bread and indoor plumbing. I apologize for assuming you were just a snarky Obama bot.

[Whisp]

215. then you would be snarky what bot?

I'm just guessing here but you must like the Rands, or maybe the Bushes? Or maybe you just like fantasy where one President can undo all the harms of history all in one massive blow?

You don't make sense.

[sulphurdunn]

264. The suggestion than anyone

disagreeing with any of Obama's policies is a Randian or a Chimpy McSmerk supporter is pitiful. If anyone asked the President to "undo all the harms of history with one massive blow," it's news to me. Talk about me not making sense, what in the hell is the video about? It's like pulling some Biblical scripture out of context. Is it supposed to make some self-evident point? If so, what?

[randome]

163. But you choose to overlook this.

Pushing for gay rights.
Pushing for gun control.
Covering pre-existing medical conditions.
Covering contraception.
Expanding Medicaid coverage.
Pushing for equitable taxation.
Pushing for immigration reform.

Obama is not perfect. Who is?

[sulphurdunn]

181. The majority of progressives

support civil rights in all forms, gun control and immigration reform. The also support universal health care or at least a public option, income redistribution, a withdrawal from Afghanistan and Iraq, an end to drone strikes, and end to unconstitutional detention and media monopolies, a rapid advancement of green technology, the prosecution of financial felons and war criminals, an end to free trade agreements, bank deregulation, outsourcing, offshore tax shelter, increases in military spending, corporate subsidies, Citizens United...and on and on. You have set a low bar for this president. Personally, I expected much more.

[Armstead]

187. Gay rights and gun control have nothing to do with corporate power and economic exploitation

They are certainly important issues, but they are not something that the Corporate Elite care about.

And rather than tinker around the edges and help to embed a horrible health-coverage system, why didn't he AT LEAST support compromises like a public option?

I don't expect perfection. But I think his principles have to do more with the appearance of trying to get something done, rather than actually pushing for the reforms that are needed to bring back a TRUE BALANCES toour structurally distorted system of wealth and power.

[randome]

233. That was kind of my point.

Some imply that Obama is all about corporate worship. I pointed out that's not true.

[Armstead]

243. My point was that you said I said he has no principles....

...when, in fact I said he has many admirable qualities.

What I DID say is that (in my opinion) he does not apply those admirable qualities and principles to the fundamental issues of concentrated wealth and power. He is not as staunch in pressing for actual economic justice as he is for, say, gun control.

[Raine1967]

12. A refreshing post in GD. Thank you!

I don't care where you cross posted this, it is needed.

You will get no negative response from me. I'm glad you had that kind of support. I've seen that very look in the man's eyes. I know the look you saw.

For myself, that does make all the difference in the world.

[quakerboy]

13. I dont understand, but I can respect the sentiment.

I don't believe I am capable of supporting any politician 100%. I don't really understand being able to do so. But there are a lot of emotionally driven decisions that people make that baffle me, so that's not a huge surprise.

I wish you all the best. I hope your unwavering support turns out the results for our country that I presume you hope it will.

[theaocp]

15. What a great example of why you support him.

100%, however, leads one to assume you are a one-issue supporter. Therefore, in the effort to be fair, I will use one issue to NOT support him: chained CPI. While I realize he hasn't actually signed that into law yet, he brought it about for no other reason than he wanted to. I would recommend mediating your support to less than 100% to be taken more seriously. Just a thought. Cheers.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

25. He has a plan. It needs time to come around. I will back him 100% n/t

[theaocp]

28. The man is apparently a deity.

I'm now convinced supporters of this nonsense are actually Obama-fearing folk. What's the afterlife like?

[randome]

30. Neither a deity nor a loser.

The world is not black and white and neither is politics and neither is Obama.

Neither are you. Neither am I.

[theaocp]

32. Don't think so?

Tell that to the 100% backers.

[randome]

48. Yeah, well, Lady Freedom Returns has her personal experience.

I bet a lot of the Sandy Hook parents feel the same.

Most of the rest of us need to balance the accomplishments with the missteps. So far, IMO, Obama comes out on the Plus column.

[theaocp]

54. 100% support is unquestioning support.

That is practically the textbook definition of myopic tunnel vision. I call it foolhardy and naive. JMO.

[randome]

59. And I call it "To each her own". I'm not telling anyone what level of support to have.

I'm merely pointing out the positives to balance out the negatives. Every single one of us has a mix of both.

I think some here WANT to support Obama 100% and when he does something that doesn't measure up, they want to call him 'a tool of the corporations' and say 'there is no difference between the two parties.'

There IS a difference. Between Democrats and Republicans and between Obama and Romney.

Failing to recognize that is just as bad as supporting someone 100%.

[theaocp]

67. Have it your way.

I'm happy to be just as wrong as the person who DOESN'T question their leaders. Who's left now that we're all guilty? At least I'm not at ZERO percent trust of Obama.

[Bobbie Jo]

108. Conversely

100% opposition is unquestioning opposition.

That is practically the textbook definition of myopic tunnel vision. I call it foolhardy and naive. JMO.

[theaocp]

109. Good point.

Who's doing that?

[Bobbie Jo]

116. Yes.

Honest question....

Do you read here daily?

[theaocp]

125. It's an addiction, yes.

I don't recall anyone saying they have zero support for Obama, but I might have missed it. I was responding to the inference I felt you were making toward me personally. I'm now guessing you're talking about someone else. Am I right?

[Bobbie Jo]

158. You're right

I was talking about someone else. They're relatively easy to spot because they are laser focused on all things critical to the exclusion of little else.

....and I mean little else. Myopic to the extreme.

[Marr]

149. Being 100% skeptical is just being an adult.

I'm skeptical of everything politicians do-- particularly national politicians. This is not a matter of personalities and noble hearts.

As Charles de Gaulle said, France has no friends, only interests.

[Bobbie Jo]

159. "Skeptical?"

Nice euphemism. Not buying it, but I appreciate the effort.

[Marr]

162. That's what I said, yes.

I wouldn't categorize the reaction to his proposed SS cuts as simply "skeptical"-- it's been outrage, and rightfully so.

What I'm saying is that your categorization of critics as offering "100% opposition" seems, to me, to be simply the way a blindly devoted fan would view general skepticism.

[Bobbie Jo]

176. Oh I see

Some forms of myopathy are admirable.

Got it.

[Marr]

183. A default stance of skepticism is myopathy, in your opinion?

What's more, it's equally as myopic as swearing unwavering support for all of a politicians actions, past and future?

That's umm... interesting.

[Bobbie Jo]

188. Again

Nice euphemism. I'm not buying it. I didn't pop in here just yesterday, so I'm not sure who you're trying to impress with the spin. If you're going to throw labels around, be prepared to have a few flung back in your direction.

[Marr]

191. I notice you didn't answer the question.

You take an oddly aggressive stance for someone who doesn't say anything.

[Bobbie Jo]

193. I'll say this one more time...

I responded to your "question." If you're struggling, take a moment and look up the word, euphemism. Next, apply it to your use of the word skepticism.


Done.


eta: more specifically, consistently so.

[sheshe2]

173. I would be interested to know why you are skeptical

Of VAWA being passed.
The Lily Ledbetter Act?

[Marr]

182. Did I say I was against either of those things?

You're kind of making my point. I look at the things politicians do and say with a skeptical eye. I try to consider their possible motivations. That's not the same thing as being against everything they do.

Though I will say this-- the fact that you're still citing the Lilly Ledbetter Act as Obama's populist bon fides this far into his presidency says a lot about his populist bona fides.

[sheshe2]

186. You said 100%.

Being 100% skeptical is just being an adult.

I'm skeptical of everything politicians do-- particularly national politicians. This is not a matter of personalities and noble hearts.

Lily Ledbetter act and VAWA, are important to me. You do not believe that equal pay for equal work is not important to half the country?

Violence against Women? Not important either? Half the country are women, we care and we vote.

I could have given you a list of more if you want them, I will be happy to compile a list of the issues I support.

[Marr]

190. I've noticed people on your side of the 'loyalty to dear Leader' argument,

whether they're on the right or the left, seem to have a hard time understanding that criticism on one thing does not mean blanket repudiation of all things.

Do you remember how the Bushies used to equate criticism of his Iraq arguments with "hating America"? It's very much the same thing.

I *am* skeptical of everything politicians say and do-- Obama included. And yes, that included the VAWA and the Lilly Ledbetter Act. That doesn't mean I am against those acts-- it means I reviewed the acts and asked myself why he might be supporting them at that particular time. That isn't a condemnation.

Oh, and I already know you have a List handy. I've seen it already. It's very pretty.

[sheshe2]

198. That's, just sad, Marr.

Sad that you had to ask yourself "why he might be supporting them at this particular time". You needed to analyze what might be in it for him?

All else aside, Violence against Women, an issue I have posted on many times, why would you not have an instant need to support this issue? As I have said before, this is not solely a women's issue. There is not one of us, not one, that does not have a woman in their life.

So glad that violence to women have never touched you and yours. Though history shows many that been abused don't talk about it. If it had, you would not have had to ponder his motivations. If it has not, I still say shame on you for having to think about protecting women.

[Marr]

201. If you can't argue with a bit of integrity, perhaps you should stick to the BOG.

"shame on you for having to think about protecting women".

That is embarrassingly low. You don't know anything about me, and I find your hiding behind battered women here to be quite offensive. But I'll say this one last time, and then I'll thank you to drop it. I was very happy to see the VAWA passed.

What I don't do is think that politicians-- any politicians-- are my friends. I guarantee you the VAWA was part of a political calculation at the level Congress and the White House. Everything is at that level. I'm not about to salute a politician and pledge undying loyalty because he's done one or two things I liked. He's also done a whole list of things I very much did *not* like.

[sheshe2]

211. "If you can't argue with a bit of integrity, perhaps you should stick to the BOG."

What does my Integrity have to do with anything. I am not the one that posted this:

Being 100% skeptical is just being an adult.

I'm skeptical of everything politicians do-- particularly national politicians. This is not a matter of personalities and noble hearts.

or said this

"why he might be supporting them at this particular time".

or this

I *am* skeptical of everything politicians say and do-- Obama included. And yes, that included the VAWA and the Lilly Ledbetter Act. That doesn't mean I am against those acts-- it means I reviewed the acts and asked myself why he might be supporting them at that particular time. That isn't a condemnation.

So you say that you are 100% skeptical of everything about politicians, you question their motivation to act at this moment in time. An issue that never should have been held up in the first place.

Then you go on to say that I am hiding behind battered women, and I am offensive. Have you ever been battered, has your mom, verbally or physically, has it ever happened to you? I sincerely hope not. And Marr you know nothing about me.

I have my own freedom of speech here, Marr. If I wish to post on GD or the BOG that is my choice. Mine alone.

I wish you a good night. That is all from me.

[Jamaal510]

262. +1

"Lily Ledbetter act and VAWA, are important to me. You do not believe that equal pay for equal work is not important to half the country?"

[NOVA_Dem]

43. Honestly, this is kind of sad. n/t

[DainBramaged]

97. I think you're in the wrong place

Supporters of this nonsense?


You need to lighten up pork chop. A lot.

[theaocp]

101. I know, right?

It's so unfortunate to actually give a fuck. Hero worship and calf-eyes are so en vogue. Oh, and spoonerism.

[DainBramaged]

103. I voted in every election as a Democrat since I turned 18 almost 50 years ago

how bout you cupcake?

[theaocp]

112. Mmmmmm ... pork-flavored cupcakes.

Glad you voted for politicians that reflected your interests back in the day. I truly hope your SS keeps up with inflation. I'll fight to help you out from TPTB. You're welcome.

[malaise]

106. Whatever n/t

[JDPriestly]

16. President Obama is a wonderful, loving, kind, gentle, caring person.

And he is cutting Social Security benefits and food stamps and other "entitlements" for the frailest and neediest of our citizens.

But at least while he is cutting their benefits, he has a wonderful, loving, kind, gentle, caring smile on his face.

And isn't it sweet how he never loses that wonderful, loving, kind, gentle, caring smile as he hugs his banker friends?

Just a model of compassion -- for all.

Unfortunately, he lacks a couple of traits that are necessary if your compassion is to mean anything when it comes to improving the world.

First, he lacks is the ability to discern between those who get far less than they deserve in life and those who are taking far more than they deserve.

And, second, he is greatly wanting when it comes to summoning the courage to stand up TO the greedy and hateful and stand up FOR the poor and persecuted. He did finally change his mind about same-sex marriage, but other than that?

[truebluegreen]

20. +1000 n/t

[Euphoria]

40. +20000 n/t

[Zoeisright]

52. Oh for christ's sake.

He is not cutting benefits. He proposed a reduction in benefit increases that has to make it through both houses of Congress. And it won't. I am sick to death of all of this whining.

BTW, 56% of seniors voted for Romney. Apparently they are not worried about any SS benefit increase reduction.

[truebluegreen]

57. Oh for Dog's sake.

If benefits don't keep up with inflation, even less than they already do, that is a benefit cut relative to the current system.

Dress it up however you want, it's putting lipstick on a pig.

But your concern is noted.

[Faygo Kid]

246. Well said.

It's a cut, period, and he gave it away without even negotiating.

[truebluegreen]

267. Thank you.

And, like you, I am very tired of the Grand Bargainer in Chief also being the Worst Negotiator Evah (best case) or a shill for the Money Party (worst case).

[Hissyspit]

142. "whining"

[Sheepshank]

66. 300 Million (or there abouts) posts on DU crapping all over Obama isn't enough for you?

You feel the unrelenting need to repeat the same tired talking points on this thread too.

Poor form...but unfortunately, expected.

[rhett o rick]

124. I think this OP is telling. Posting in the BOG must not be satisfying enough.

Seems there is a need to interact with the "bashers".



Have a great weekend.

[Puglover]

185. The BOG gets about 10 posts a day.

Frankly the automotan(sp) nature of some of these replies read like a very bad and unflattering parody.

[sheshe2]

205. IMHO

I could say the same about the 30+ that are on GD everyday.

[woo me with science]

134. [phone]

Thank you.

[DevonRex]

146. Tell me when the last budget was passed. How many days ago. nt

[dflprincess]

164. Thank you n/t

[Floyd_Gondolli]

18. Nice post

It's good to have at least 1 out of 100 threads that doesn't contain toxic levels of histrionics.

[truebluegreen]

22. How do you feel about toxic levels of blind, unquestioning belief?

[Floyd_Gondolli]

23. I wouldn't know

How do you feel about it?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

46. Obviously, this is a basic concept upon which everyone should have an opinion. But you don't know?

[Floyd_Gondolli]

58. "blind, unquestioned belief"

If you're speaking of social security, I'll offer this: What's the difference between the OP and those who deride Obama for proposing the cuts? You don't know what the cuts will be, or who precisely they would impact most, or even when they would be implemented, or even if they will pass, yet you have a blind and unquestioned belief that they will be catastrophic.

How exactly does that make you any different?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

75. You've already said that you don't know. I'll accept you at your word.

[Floyd_Gondolli]

77. In other words

You've got nothing.

Precisely what I expected. But hey, thanks for playing.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

79. You said that you don't know. Why shouldn't I accept you at your word?

[Floyd_Gondolli]

86. But you didn't accept

You asked a question, and then in another post, wrote that I should have an opinion. Doesn't sound much like you took me at my word. Perhaps you're tired.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

90. Actually, what I said at #46 was

"Obviously, this is a basic concept upon which everyone should have an opinion. But you don't know?"

That was in response to your post at # 23, in which you answered the question at #22 ("How do you feel about toxic levels of blind, unquestioning belief?&quot by saying:

"I wouldn't know"

You clearly said at #23 that you don't know.

When you say that you don't know, should others not believe you?

[Sheepshank]

68. so tell me how do you feel about your toxic level of judments towards your fellow Dem? n/t

[AnotherMcIntosh]

19. I can understand your response from your situation and Obama's response.

But if that personal contact influences you, I wonder how all of us should feel about the lack of economic progress in the community in which he was a community organizer? The people in that community also deserve care. They had personal contact with him. He saw their faces. And their despair. He is now one of the most powerful people on the planet. Seriously, since he became President, how is that community doing? How is it that he had time for a photo op in your community but not theirs? Don't the people in that community deserve equal treatment?

[Lady Freedom Returns]

21. Washington works slow, always have. I trust he has a plan and back him 100% n/t

[theaocp]

27. Exactly why I'm an atheist.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. And Obama works in mysterious ways.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

41. Great photo op.

[Newest Reality]

29. That must be an interesting feeling ...

I don't recall ever backing anything or anyone 100% and I didn't think we were supposed to do that.

We support what is right, question what is not and rebuke poor results. Now, we can back someone who abides by that to the degree that the do so.

So, enjoy your sentiment and I'm sure you have your reasons.

[Katashi_itto]

111. Agree. Another OP for the trash. I didn't realize were supposed to be a cult.

[MadHound]

33. This is why I don't,

Just a few of the innocent victims of Obama's drone program.

Now he proposes to bring the pain home, attacking the most vulnerable among us, the elderly and the poor.

[theaocp]

34. Yea, well, he's serious.

Or something. Signature strikes and double taps make it so. Therefore, shut up.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

47. We all know war is a dark business.

But I still back him. 100%

[MadHound]

50. Then you are part of the problem, not part of the solution,

Your president, which you back 100%, is killing innocents for no good reason, none. Now he is proposing to increase the hardship of the most vulnerable among us, the elderly and the poor.

Is this what you support 100%?

[Lady Freedom Returns]

81. Well, I think You are part of the problem.

I have seen some of your post and they come very close as to helping the right, to close.

[MadHound]

89. What, because I dare to criticize the president?

Because I call for real change, and to hold our leaders responsible for their policies and actions? LOL!

[Bobbie Jo]

100. You don't give yourself enough credit.

Not only do you "dare" to criticize the president, you do so to the exclusion of much else.

Of course that's not taking into account your third party advocacy efforts.

Please don't sell yourself short.

[Cal Carpenter]

232. And the line has been drawn

It is clear which side of it you are on.

And it has little, if anything, to do with Obama.

[Number23]

197. You are so tasteless I can't even find the words. To have those dead children done up

like a fucking GREETING CARD for you to toss around this web site at people who dare to support this president against your "wise counsel."

Let me stop before I say some shit to you that will get me banned.

[MadHound]

213. What is tasteless is that those children are dead,

Dead because our president decided to conduct an illegal, immoral drone war against our nominal ally and US citizens.

That's truly tasteless.

If the pictures are bothering you that much, perhaps it is because your conscience has something to say to you, I would suggest you listen.

[Number23]

219. Yes, because pictures of DEAD FUCKING CHILDREN would only bother someone

who has a conscience. You are absolutely right. And that explains better than ANYTHING you've EVER said why those pictures don't bother you.

Thank you for summing up perfectly and succinctly what everyone on this site already knew about you. Well done.

ETA: Removed harsh but absolutely deserved personal attack. Trying so hard not to cuss this person out it's hurting my fingers.

[MadHound]

229. Ass u me much?

Apparently so, since you're assuming that those dead children don't bother me. Why the hell do you think I am against the President's drone policy? Why the hell do you think I put that picture up there?

It is becoming more and more apparent that your anger isn't over the dead kids, or even the picture that I put up. What angers you is the fact that it is your precious Obama who caused those deaths, and you simply can't resolve the anger over those dead kids with your love of President.

Thanks for point out so well exactly what is angering you. Again, I suggest that you listen to what your conscience is telling you.

[Number23]

273. When people post pics of dead children caused by gun violence

don't say a damn thing. You hear me? Not one damn word.

I'd take my "precious" Obama any day of the week over you and your ilk who live for your "precious" guns. And the fact that you have no qualms whatsoever about posting that disgusting "greeting card" with the faces of those precious dead children as a stick to beat people over the head with says EVEN MORE about you than your stupid assed and callous, cold as hell I LOVE GUNS!! post just a few days after Newtown. I truly have no idea how you are still here.

Get a conscience. But get a clue first. You are absolutely disgusting.

[Bobbie Jo]

244. Agreed

What a disgusting prop. He doesn't give a rat's ass who or what he uses, it just serves a purpose.

Blind hatred.

[Number23]

272. "He doesn't give a rat's ass who or what he uses, it just serves a purpose."

Exactly. And this point has been made over and over again by half of DU. But he'd shit a brick if people started posting pictures of dead children in response to his heartless, soulless and mindlessly idiotic Charlton Heston impression ('pry my guns from my cold, dead, hands') he did a few months back and has been doing since.

Such disgusting posts must surely spring from the mind of a truly disgusting person.

[ucrdem]

279. fyi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=112094&sub=trans

[Number23]

281. Yes, I know. Thanks. And there were few if any tears when it happened.

You Better Believe it.

[ucrdem]

282. Ah. Glad his passing did not go unnoticed.

[ucrdem]

278. update

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=112094&sub=trans

[patrice]

42. I support him because he's Everybody's President, EVEN the Haters' & Others who're trying to destroy

him.

Sat nam!

[markpkessinger]

45. Even those he is throwing under the bus with chained CPI n/t

[patrice]

51. Even those who the anti-CPI cohort would throw under the bus, e.g. poor single mothers

who NEED the Universal Pre-K that the anti-CPI crowd would sacrifice to their own political capital.

[patrice]

53. Even those who the anti-CPI cohort would throw under the bus, e.g. the recovering addict

on parole who is one OSHA certification away from getting day labor work on some of those Infrastructure JOBS that the anti-CPI cohort is EAGER to sacrifice to their own political capital.

[markpkessinger]

55. False choices, both of them. Nice try, though. n/t

[patrice]

62. Not false choices when what calls itself "the Left" encourages people to not vote. "The Left" can't

DELIVER, so it's into destroying.

[markpkessinger]

72. I have yet to see anybody encouraging anybody not to vote . . .

. . . regardless of which side of this question they are on. There may have been a post or two that said something along those lines, but this it amounts to a bullshit attempt to slander those who disagree with the President on this issue to accuse them of "encouraging them not to vote."

[patrice]

74. Oh come on, you think only the Right is capable of Plausible Deniability? wow, that's kind of

naive.

[Rex]

80. It is the MO of the poster.

You can expect it.

[patrice]

178. And it is your MO to disrespect others' MOs. You just proved it. Now disrespect this . . .

[Rex]

179. As usual, you make no logical sense.

Try harder next time.

[patrice]

61. The Right or the Cener have NO monopoly on throwing people under the bus. What calls itself

"the Left" (and that is to laugh!!!) is more eager than anyone else to prove their power for power's sake alone. It has NO authentic concern for anyone who disagrees or is different in any authentically problematic sort of way. They tolerate dissent less than anyone but the most extreme Right. ALL are to be used for click-trails and career ambitions.

I used to believe. I don't anymore. Fuck "the Left". They're a bunch of fakes.

[markpkessinger]

69. So the argument has progressed from . . .

. . . (1) It's just a rumor; to
(2) he would NEVER to that; to
(3) it's a negotiating tactic; to
(4) pay attention to the GOOD stuff in his budget (just ignore the bad stuff); to
(5) "Fuck 'the Left'".

Very telling, I would say.

[patrice]

73. I speak for myself, UNLIKE a LOT of people around here. & If you don't understand change, perhaps

you should do something about that.

[woo me with science]

224. Nicely summarized. nt

[cali]

44. this is some faulty thinking. No one is saying he's not a nice guy.

The issue is his policies.

[ProSense]

56. You mean

"The issue is his policies."

...policies like expanding Medicaid?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2662133

[Lady Freedom Returns]

64. The issue is us backing our leader.

We trusted him to lead us. Yet now that the other side has gone to work and mixed up the issues. Now that he is having to do some bait and switch to get the other side to stumble, we are ready to light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks.

I for one will keep backing him. He has a plan. He is having to do his best since we have taken away much of our power from him.


I think some will remember my post...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022643318

If you do not like what he has to do, then help him! Back his so he does not have to do such bait and switch tactics.

[theaocp]

71. I humbly apologize for not genuflecting appropriately.

30 lashes ought to do the trick and the progressive agenda will be back on track.

[cali]

93. um, no. He's the one that challenged us to hold his feet to the fire. It's damned foolish

to blindly trust any politician.

You keep repeating as if were some kind of mantra that he has a plan without specifying what you're referring to. And just how have we taken "our power from him"?

I don't like what he's doing in many policy areas and I'll hold his feet to the fire as he requested.

[randome]

105. Sometimes meeting someone in person DOES give you valuable insight.

It's easy for us to pick apart policies without knowing the person. It probably takes both policy awareness AND personal awareness to have a more accurate take on things.

The vast majority of us live in our own bubbles.

[woo me with science]

127. He's a public servant. nt

[Marr]

216. It's amazing to me how the authoritarian wing here is using almost exactly the same

rhetoric (and arguments) that the Bushies used to use about Bush. He knows things we don't. We have to support 'the leader'. 'You're either with us 100% without questions, or you're against us'.

I suppose it shouldn't be surprising, but it is.

[Marr]

214. God, the similarities to the Bushies are striking.

We have an authoritarian wing, that's for sure.

We're not supposed to have "leaders" here-- and we're certainly not supposed to devotedly, mindlessly follow the people elected to public office. We have representatives. We're not children or subjects. We're citizens, and we have a duty to think for ourselves.

[Rex]

104. Please to not bring rational and reason into this

this is a 'feelgood' thread based on emotions...you know like the ones the Left is apparently using to base their decision on Obama's current policies. Funny how it is okay for ONE group to use them, but not the other group.

The failsauce is amazing at this point.

[zeemike]

49. For what it is worth.

“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”

― Theodore Roosevelt

[zentrum]

65. It's worth a lot

Great reply and to the point concerning this post, which mixes apples with oranges.

[TheKentuckian]

63. I bet Jesus wished that Thomas and Peter who knew him so much better than you know Obama

and saw greater miracles and kindness had half your faith.

I think faith should be for God, friends, and family. Don't expect folks to give it on kind eyes but peace unto you.

[patrice]

70. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth, as usual: HIT and then say "peace unto you" just

like a lot of "Christian" hypocrites.

[TheKentuckian]

223. Both sides and the middle, patrice. I open the whole motherfucker

and express what I think. In no way was I talking out of both sides of my mouth, not my specialty (who likes to habitually look at many sides of about any given topic and gives all equal value, maybe not to be fascist in a way, sorta?)...I had one point and never deviated from it much less ever stated the opposite. You continue to have interesting definitions.

It is okay not to try to literally say everything and therefore also nothing with each and every statement.

Your post is a step toward that, too bad your first definitive statement was all pissy and assholish (hey, I might resemble that remark but you seem to be not so naturally inclined from a temperament standpoint) but hey, often baby's first and favorite word is no but they pick up others along the way. You have a lovely!

That is the "peace unto you" and THE HIT, DOUBLE-TAP, and BAM..."peace unto you" see you can really jazz it up and move it around and add!

[DainBramaged]

204. If you can't have faith in your fellow man, then we're nothing more than walking hamburgers

so sad for you.

[TheKentuckian]

227. Faith is at odds with citizenship.

Faith for me is beyond trust, love, or respect.

Faith is believing in what is not manifested as though it were, such a self defining thing cannot be passed around willy nilly to do so results in at least this form really being hamburger...dead meat.

A politician??? Seriously?

I think life can have meaning even if I don't just swallow a notion that by definition I know to be false or accept what my heart screams out against because I wish to believe so much in a person.

[DainBramaged]

234. Is that like the gunnies having faith in their guns? Cupcakes in their frosting? Sotch in their tape

i HAVE FAITH IN MY bAND aIDS, BECAUSE bAND aIDS STUCK ON ME.....


Whhoooo YABBA DABBA DO DO DOOOOOO doo doo

[TheKentuckian]

241. People have faith in a man made and inanimate object?

How does that work? How can such a thing be more than it is?

[Iliyah]

78. I also trust him.

I can agree to disagree as well. I believe that he is trying to do the best for the American people and realize that he is up against a group of insane assholes who rather see the American people fail and the country fall. As to SSI and Medicare cuts, I believe he has a plan as well, and from the insanity of the opposing party (GOP), they will NEVER agree with Pres O on nada especially on 1-2% paying their fair share of taxes nor will the corporations.

[SunSeeker]

82. You have a right to trust our President.

IMO he has earned your trust. You have every right to trust President Obama and leave the ankle-biting to others. I am sorry that you are being attacked for simply expressing your love for a great President.

[theaocp]

83. And those that are expressing love of a great country

and not a man? Oh, right, they're "ankle-biting". Obama has earned his lack of trust.

[SunSeeker]

98. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.

Lady Freedom Returns is entitled to her opinion and you are entitled to yours.

[Butterbean]

85. Wow. You keep repeating the same mantra, almost as if it were religious.

Nice people can still make crappy decisions. One of the doctors I used to work with, patients all raved about how "nice" he was and how "kind" he was and how he "seemed so caring." His surgical and medical technique were so bad, though, that his license was suspended, but not before he butchered a few patients. Conversely, one of the most ill-tempered, prickly-edged, rotten-beside-manner having doctors I work with is a brilliant surgeon, and although I cannot stand him and hate him with the fire of a thousand suns on a personal level, on a professional level I would trust him with my life.

Nice doesn't always cut it. You can be a real sweetheart and still screw up royally.

[woo me with science]

222. Yup. The authoritarian rhetoric is getting creepier and creepier...

[JNelson6563]

87. Nice post!

What a terrible experience for you and your neighbors though!



Julie

[Captain Stern]

88. Just because he's done some great stuff, doesn't mean everything he does is great.

I think you only support him 100 percent....so far.

There are things that he could do that would cause even you to not give him that level of support. He just hasn't done them.

By offering up SS benefits as a bargaining chip (that in my opinion, shouldn't be anywhere near the table), he has caused a lot of people to not trust him 100 percent. And it's not because folks doubt that he has a plan....it's because they're scared that he does, and that his plan sucks.

[Rex]

92. And this is why I like to think for myself.

Because so many others have blind faith in X,Y and Z. Good for them more power to em, but not my cup of tea. I like to think for myself.

[mountain grammy]

94. had I been in your shoes, I would feel the same! I'm not 100%, but I appreciate your post!

we need it.

[loyalsister]

95. Nice post

My read has always been that he is compassionate and has integrity. It's possible that I won't like what he does sometimes. I still feel like he is on my side.

[Knightraven]

96. OMG! You did it!

I thought you did not want to hear it from the anti Obama's that have been posting in here? I for one would not have done it for the same reason. Girl you got gumption!

[Lady Freedom Returns]

121. I wasn't, to tell the truth.

But then something came to mind last night. One of my Professor said on many occasions "If you are worried about people not liking you, you will never get anywhere." Mind you, he was talking about the Production field, but it was getting to me.

I have NEVER been one to back from a fight when it is something I believe in. Good lord, I stood in the middle of the campus, a very pro Bush campus, and protest the Iraq war. It was a silent protest. We all stood around the 9-11 memorial flag pole and said nothing. Did not hold signs, did not make a sound. It gave the other side a chance to yell and scream. We even has a State Rep come down (Can't remember his name now, he was up for election and loss) to say we had no right to protest around a flag pole.

The way the "anti-Obama" post have been has made me think of that as well. When someone try to say one thing positive, they get jumped by the haters. I also think all these anti-Obama talks popping up on other sites are just going to hurt us as a party.

That is why, instead of hiding in the shadows, I am stepping up and making a stand. I BELIEVE IN THE PRESIDENT. I SUPPORT HIM 100%. And no one, nobody will convince me not to.

They can yell and scream and try to make me shut up, but I will defend MY PRESIDENT! He has a plan, we need to help him, not make him have to do it alone. That is why he is having to play bait and switch. If we, as a whole, did more on our part, he would not have to play bait and switch. That is why I am always telling people to call the President, those phone calls are marked and recorded. Call your Senators and Reps. Call all your Reps. at all leaves. The "right" is doing it, why let them wield the power?

[DainBramaged]

99. We've really turned to shit when the haters come out to bash a person in need

because the President gave her encouragement.


We're fucked actually, the haters and pukes have taken over.

[rhett o rick]

130. There is an easy solution. Put the "haters" on ignore. Of course that would eliminate you

being able to complain about the haters. Or you could hide out in the BOG. No haters there.

[LeftInTX]

102. Great post, but sorry I can't trust anybody 100%

I'm sorry about what you had to endure with the tornado and that you were able to meet and hug President Obama.

I do hope that he figures this Chained CPI thing out. I hope he listens to feedback. I think he made a mistake and since he is a good person he hopefully will figure this out. But it is hard to say. Presidents are complicated people....

I do feel what he has done with Chained CPI is all about politics with Republicans.

[Politicub]

107. I support him implicitly

Aside from social security, the president has put forth a bold and progressive budget.

I have called my senators and rep to let them know where I stand, but I refuse to be part of the anti-Obama mob that's so visible on DU.

He has my support, and deserves far more respect than he's getting on DU right now.

[alarimer]

110. I will never, ever put blind faith in any leader.

It's like sleeping with a snake. Sooner or later, you're going to get bitten. It's just a matter of time.

Leaders (most, if not all) need to have their feet held to the fire. If they do something we do not like, we need to set them straight. We cannot just assume the "have a plan" and just trust that it will all work out somehow.

THEY work for US. Obama works for US.

[woo me with science]

131. Sooner or later...

NDAA/indefinite detention, "Kill Lists," torture and rendition, settlements for corrupt banks, privatization and corporatization of public schools, Race to the Top and high stakes testing, selling off Gulf of Mexico for drilling, support for Trans-Pacific free trade agreement, implementation of massive surveillance of American citizens, brutal and coordinated crackdowns on peaceful protesters, arguing at the Supreme Court for warrantless surveillance and strip searches for any arrestee, escalating drone wars on civilians in sovereign countries with which we are not at war, new policies of targeting children and first responders in drone campaigns, awarding medals for remote drone attacks, refusal to prosecute war crimes, refusal to prosecute LIBOR and major corrupt banks, pressure on attorneys general for settlements for corrupt banks, advocacy of austerity budgets and repeated use SS and Medicare as bargaining chips in budget negotiations, tying of SS to the general fund with payroll tax holiday, support of TSA naked scanning and groping, escalation of the war on marijuana, appointment of private prison executive to head the US Marshal's office and subsequent massive escalation of federal contracts for private prisons, etc., etc., etc..

And now a FORMAL PROPOSAL for the despicable, unconscionable chained CPI.

Yep, it was bound to happen sooner or later.

[brentspeak]

113. Who's going to give struggling seniors courage

after Obama's chained CPI forces them to choose between buying Alpo or Tender Vittles for their own dinner?

[rhett o rick]

117. So why did you post this here? You know we can read the post in the BOG?

The only difference is here you are sure to stir up a hornets nest. Is that your motivation?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

119. x2

[Rex]

120. Is water wet?

nt.

[Whisp]

133. o my goodness.

The Nerve

This should be a Bash Obama Free Speech zone, and the rest of us should just go away?

yehwell.

[rhett o rick]

168. No this is the free speech zone, not the BOG. If you cant handle

criticisms of your President, then just use the ignore feature.

[Whisp]

169. I'm handling it just fine and in my way

boss around much?

[rhett o rick]

171. Boss around? How so? I suggested you put people on ignore if they make you whine so.

Just a suggestion. I know you wont because I know you love it. You love to whine. I actually dont have a problem with that. I can ignore you easy enough.

Talk about policies much?

[Whisp]

174. I don't recall asking for your advice.

Gladys Kravitz.

[rhett o rick]

177. No prob. It's free and guaranteed and worth every cent. nm

[Warren Stupidity]

220. Er, actually you did ask for advice.

This should be a Bash Obama Free Speech zone, and the rest of us should just go away?

[Bobbie Jo]

230. It's called sarcasm.

In the form of a rhetorical question.

C'mon, really?

[Warren Stupidity]

245. Sure, but when you sarcastically ask

for advice, it is bad form to feign outrage when you get back the advice you asked for.

[Bobbie Jo]

248. This thread is full of

bad form.

[Rex]

251. How ironic is #249?

Very.

[Bobbie Jo]

249. Because she can

Who the fuck are you to dictate who posts what....and where? You and a swarm of hornets?

What is your motivation? Do you get off on public ridicule?

Check your damn self.

[rhett o rick]

250. My, my. I dont care if she posts here. Doesnt bother me in the least.

I do wonder of her motivation. Does she want a good discussion of Pres Obama's policies? Funny way to do that. Does she want to state her adoration of the president without push-back? I dont know about her motivations and I really dont care, but if it were me and I wanted to start a flame-war, I would do it like this. And I am not saying that flame-wars arent good once in a while. Just curious that's all.

[Bobbie Jo]

253. Please save your

Passive aggressive responses for someone who actually thinks they're clever.

Seriously.

[Whisp]

122. Thank you, sweet Lady.

Yeh, he's no phoney liar. You got that right.

[AverageJoe90]

126. Yep. He ain't quite perfect by any means, but he's still the guy for the job. n/t

[Jersey Devil]

132. Gee, I thought you were talking about Chris Christie

Like Obama, he has large shoulders to lean on in a catastrophe. But his policies make it impossible for me to like him as an elected politician. Obama's proposal for a chained cpi is bad policy no matter how sympathetic and comforting he may be in a natural emergency.

[randome]

150. You're not in favor of gay rights?

Pre-existing condition coverage?
Contraceptive coverage?
Gun control?
More equitable taxation?

Are THOSE the policies that make it impossible for you to support him?

One mistake -or a political feint, depends on how you look at it- and you all too willingly forget everything else.

Granted, not all of the above are fixed and final but some are and others are about to be realized.

[Jersey Devil]

152. Where did I say I didn't support him?

I have every right and I think the obligation to let him know when he makes a mistake. Are we supposed to just shut up about it if he proposes something that is bad for America because he has done much good in other areas?

[randome]

165. "...his policies make it impossible for me to like him as an elected politician..."

You're right, that does not necessarily equate to not supporting him.

But you mention the one thing that everyone is talking about currently. I just wanted to remind you that he's done a lot of good things, too.

[Cha]

218. You poor clueless thing..thinking she was talking about Chris Chistie when it's

a personal story about President Obama in Joplin, MO in 2009. With pics and everything.

[frylock]

256. the ironing is delicious..

whoosh

[Bobbie Jo]

266. Never mind.

[Cha]

268. Yes, the OP did go right over his head. WHOOSH.

[sulphurdunn]

145. "He has a plan."

"He has admirable qualities." "He gives me hope..." OK, fair enough, but what about his policies? He is politician after all, not a televangelist. His gravitas needs to be weighed on the basis of what he actually does, not what he says and not how people feel about him. As for blaming the opposition. The opposition hasn't proposed he cut Social Security. It becomes tiresome hearing about how Obama can't get things done because he doesn't have the votes. He doesn't try to get them, unless its to benefit financial fat cats. You wash his feet with your hair if you want, but please try to understand why others will not do likewise.

[JohnnyRingo]

155. I owe this president for my pension.

Back in '09 when GM teetered on bankruptcy, I was faced with a life change I never saw coming. I, and thousands like me, were counting the weeks before we would have to go out and beg for employment in our old age. He bucked the GOP common wisdom that GM could only survive if the union contracts were shredded and "legacy costs" (my pension) were eliminated.

Drone strikes? A small decrease in cost of living calculations for SS recipients? Pardon me for not spitting in this man's face and calling for his impeachment. I'll excuse myself from the fretful hand wringing going on here 24/7.

[dflprincess]

166. Margaret Thatcher also turned up at disaster scenes or hospitals to comfort the survivors

So much so that some Britons carried cards in their wallets that stated Margaret Thatcher was not to be allowed to see them should they wind up in hospital.

[DainBramaged]

203. Do you hate the President that much to be so blatent here?

It amazes me you call yourself Progressive.

[dflprincess]

208. I don't hate the president

But I don't trust him either. And I do call myself progressive but it's not a term I'd use to describe Obama.

[DainBramaged]

209. Of course you don't trust him, just like 3,000,000 FAUX viewers.....

have a wonderful life, next time, maybe your President won't be a Democrat.

[dflprincess]

210. I'm not so sure we have a Democrat for a president now

It takes more than just putting a D after your name.

[Union Scribe]

172. I appreciate that you had that experience.

I hope you can appreciate that for many of us our experiences with Obama are not as personal, so our views on his policies and proposals are different.

[sheshe2]

175. Lady Freedom Returns

[kickysnana]

192. Crocodile tears, we didn't fall off a turnup truck. n/t

[DainBramaged]

202. Wow just wow

how sad for you that your heart is so hardened, how sad.

[myrna minx]

196. I'm so sorry for everything you went through. All of my best to you and yours.

[Number23]

199. K&R

[Apophis]

212. I never support a politician 100%.

To do that is naive.

[donheld]

217. Very very foolish

He loved you to your face. Then is stabbing in the back. You say you don't care about the stabbing since he said what he said.

I would NEVER support a president 100%.

[MFM008]

221. look if you support ANYTHING

100% you will always get disappointed .

[bigtree]

226. thank you for relating that in this forum. I seldom visit the BOG and would have missed this

This is the reason that I admire and respect the man. He may well not have all of the right answers, but he does demonstrate regularly that he has great care and concern for the plights of average Americans. Thank you again for this example LFR!

[TreasonousBastard]

228. We all have our own reasons for how we feel about someone, and...

that the President made it up close and personal with you, raising your spirits, is every bit as valid as whatever motivates the would-be policy wonks around here.

Maybe more so.

Keep ignoring the negativity

[Demonaut]

231. thanks Lady!

[Janecita]

235. Good for you

But the great majority of people aren't sheep. I voted for him twice, but he is not perfect, he is not infallible, and he is not a God. He makes mistakes, he isn't progressive enough and he loves drones a little too much. Blind faith gives you wars, a messed up environment and cat food.

[Fuddnik]

236. How I miss the unrec option.

[Faygo Kid]

254. +1

Sounds like a Palinista about do-no-wrong Sarah. Very discomforting to see that on DU.

[Left Turn Only]

237. Nice guy, but...

Yes, President Obama seems to be a nice guy, but I do not support many of his major policy decisions. How could any true Democrat support his deficiencies concerning the environment, labor, defense, corporate power abuses, judge appointments, and now even social security? There are a lot of people I like as human beings that I wouldn't like as president.

[tomp]

238. your unquestioning loyalty comes cheap.

perhaps you should leave real governance to the more critical among us.

[dawg]

239. Until we elect Jesus Christ president ...

I will *never* support the President 100%.

We laughed when the righties stuck by George W. Bush no matter what he did. This year, I learned that is not just a Republican thing.

[Jamaal510]

247. Even though

he did a few things I disagree with, I still have Obama's back 100%. I recognize that he has already accomplished more than many other presidents in history in spite of a hostile Congress. Because of him, there is health reform (which past presidents have tried to do), more support for gay rights (ending DADT and being the 1st president to endorse gay marriage), there's him signing the Fair Pay Act, he ended one war and is drawing down another, he has kept the country safe from any terrorist attacks, he killed the person responsible for 9/11, and he is investing in alternative energy. Of course there's much more I want him to accomplish, but I also know that we need to waste the House Republicans first before that's possible, because frankly, the word "compromise" is not in their vocabulary.

[indepat]

258. A budget which cuts social security while not including any of the identified ways to fairly

and easily reduce the deficit by $3 to $4 trillions dollars over ten years is not only hard to take, it is bad policy and horrible politics imo. Not requiring der mittens to report his $20,000,000 income as income rather than euphemistically calling it capital gains is so egregiously inequitable in this context as to smell to high heaven.

[just1voice]

261. You going to the Pat Robertson prayer meeting later? LMFAO!

You'll fit right in.

[DainBramaged]

271. Another cloud of foul gas permeates the thread

See in 10 years if you say the same about President Clinton, and I don't mean Bill.

[just1voice]

274. Salute your leader! Go team go! Rah rah rah, blah blah blah Mr. "foul gas"

You would be advised to seek mental health assistance, right after your Soc. Sec. and medicare are cut and you can't afford it anymore in our for-profit health insurance system.

Q. How many 1000s of ad-hom attacks constitute your high post count?

[DainBramaged]

275. Your replies are ugly and hateful. Just mentioning mental health assistance shows you to be

nothing more than a punk.


Long after you're gone, I'll still be here. Back in the day, your diatribe against a member or the President would have gotten you the granite cookie.


Now I'll just put your sorry ass on ignore and gleefully wait for the day you're removed..

[Cha]

277. What an Ignorant post.

[Vinnie From Indy]

263. I got banned from the BOG for saying that I was worried

about Obama's finances in regard to an OP that discussed his recently released tax return. Didn't see that coming!

Cheers!

[DainBramaged]

269. Some mighty cruel folks in this thread, mighty cruel

you want to see the downfall of DU, this thread is a perfect example of where it's going.


Shame on you who hate, shame on you who attack the OP. You're no better than the paid Koch posters.

[chknltl]

270. KnR. i stand with you Lady Freedom Returns

President Bush bemoaned the fact that he was not a dictator. He promised to privatize SSI in his first term. Was he a sellout to his supporters when he did not deliver on that promise? Of course not. He did not deliver on that promise because it was one he could not deliver. We The People would never have allowed it. We elect Presidents not dictators.

It is easy to blame a President for not delivering those things we as individuals want. That blaming undermines where the real power is and was always meant to be: in the hands of We The People. I am not so ready to give up my power. I stand with you in support of this President.

[ucrdem]

280. "He asked me if I was OK."

A beautiful, beautiful trhead LFR. KnR.



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