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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPaul Ryan On Abortion: 'We Want A Country Where It Isn't Even Considered'
WASHINGTON -- Rep. Paul Ryan, the Republican vice presidential nominee in 2012 and an abortion opponent, said Thursday that anti-abortion activists should try to build a broad coalition and find common ground with supporters of abortion rights as a way to advance their agenda.
Ryan, R-Wis., said in a speech to the Susan B. Anthony List that those who oppose abortion "need to work with people who consider themselves pro-choice because our task isn't to purge our ranks. It's to grow them."
"We don't want a country where abortion is simply outlawed. We want a country where it isn't even considered," he said.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/11/paul-ryan-abortion_n_3065932.html
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)He's truly appalling.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Our districts are drawn in manner that makes him and many other pieces of shit mostly locked in.
Botany
(70,494 posts)We went solidly for Obama and to Sen. Brown by 6 points and yet
only 4 of our 16 Congressional districts went to a democrat running
for the house.
Despite all their USA USA USA / Liberty and Freedom crap at their souls
they are un-American who have to cheat to win.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)I hope he comes back as a woman when he dies.
elleng
(130,865 posts)newfie11
(8,159 posts)Thanks!!
Botany
(70,494 posts).... take their daughters to "private doctors" or fly them to other countries when they
"got into trouble."
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)The daughters of the wealthy elite don't need to worry themselves one bit, those laws won't apply to them.
Abortion will *always* be an option for them, just as it has been for them before.
Botany
(70,494 posts)... the rich family's family doctor used to knew about how to set up a certain women for
"an exam" by a trusted Ob-Gyn.
I really don't why in 2013 we are still having the conversation about choice and health care
for women ...... bunch of old white men (and right wing Christian women) who think that
their faith system allows them to tell other people what they can do.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)needed a D&C, while still only in high school.
An illness that only afflicted those with money, seemed odd at the time.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)saying that automatically sets himself up for defeat.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)People *say* that about him???!?!
brush
(53,767 posts)He's not smart, just a smug woman hater who wants to keep all the reigns of power in the hands of smug little smiling bastards like himself.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Biden said: "Irish? How about I come over there and slap that stupid look off your face, that's Irish!" God, how I wish that had happened in real life!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Bingo. How Anybody thinks that guy is brilliant I will never know.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)But he's full of shit and pandering to his base.
caraher
(6,278 posts)Somehow my "pro-life" relatives remain resistant to the obvious point that truly valuing human life means taking care, as a society, to ensure a decent quality of life.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)as acceptable to lead any part of the government in any capacity at all.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)..Somalia?
And conveniently, there are planes and ships leaving for there daily.
Are you gone yet?
sakabatou
(42,148 posts)YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)it would be nice if there were never any unintended pregnancies, if birth control were 100% effective and available to everyone, if every wanted fetus resulted in a healthy baby, if pregnancy never endangered a woman's life . . . Until then this a-hole should STFU.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...it's a control thing but my mind wonders what type of physiological bullshit goes on in their weird mind.
It's so foreign to think that they think (somehow) their actions are doing some sort of humanity "cause" when,
in truth, their actions just make the world a nastier and more complicated place to live.
Well, I for one, want a country where people don't even consider controlling or making slaves out of women.
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)RedstDem
(1,239 posts)That would be a great country.
sendero
(28,552 posts).... where people laugh at libertarians the same way they laugh at scientologists and televangelists.
RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)I think that the notion of "a country where it isn't even considered" is an excellent ideal to strive for. And the way to achieve that ideal is by doing everything the exact opposite of how you are doing things. We need to go 180 degrees from the "CONservative" way of governing.
That means tripling the minimum wage, Universal Healthcare, very high taxes on the wealthy, a social safety net with such a tight mesh, that nobody will ever slip through. And a million other things along those lines.
It means making this country so totally socialist, as to make the Scandinavian countries look like Somalia.
So, Congressman... I'm all for it! Let's do this thing! Let's remake this society into a socialist paradise, so that nobody will even want to consider abortion!
Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)n/t
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,784 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Disgusting little man!
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)Why is it such a big deal to a group of men? I can understand most things politicians do, but on this I'm stymied; there's no money to be made suppressing reproductive rights. Why put so much effort into something that is not going to enhance your wealth?
cali
(114,904 posts)Part of it may be that they're appealing to their base. In some states the anti-choicers are a majority. And sadly, the new face of the anti-choicers in the states, is now women. Ugh.
Autumn
(45,057 posts)I guess we can both want in one hand and shit in the other. As long as women have a womb abortion will be a consideration. He might have better luck getting rid of wombs.
Johonny
(20,834 posts)If he wouldn't, his wife needs to think about an upgrade...
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)Someone please inform Mr. Ryan that abortion rates tend to increase when Republicans are in office, and decrease when Democrats are in office.
spanone
(135,826 posts)Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)Thanks, Ryan!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)was the way Bill Clinton put it. I think he had it about right.
trackfan
(3,650 posts)PCIntern
(25,534 posts)aandegoons
(473 posts)He is welcomed to move. I will even help him pack.
magellan
(13,257 posts)Only countries where abortion is illegal. That doesn't stop people considering or having one anyway.
What Ryan is really looking for is a country populated solely by men!
aandegoons
(473 posts)Shh... You will ruin his surprise.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)See which one fills up first.
Thanks, Mom, as always, for these pearls that continue to serve me well into my sixth decade.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)You ass.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Because they don't exist. If they do, no one listens to them and they certainly don't vote them into office.
Alas.
Initech
(100,063 posts)Abortion laws favor Christianity and Catholocism - yet they are being passed by Congress and the states left and right. Does the constitution mean nothing to them - other than that the Tea Party hides behind it like a cowering sewer rat?
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Samantha
(9,314 posts)Many of us hope you can go.
Sam
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)some magic and/or thought control, ey?
Is Ryan giving away a master plan for theocratic thought-control hyper-holy implants or something?
That's not a politician in a modern sense, that's the voice and thinking of a tyrant.
And what will they do with all the children? I mean, the implication and potential is that birth control is next. Just how many wage slaves and private prisoners do these people want in their fruitful multiplication plan? Just not enough neo-Serfs?
Is he a minion for fulfilling the wet dreams of the oligarchical, pluto-gods, perhaps? Maybe its a rush when you have a megalopolis of teaming masses crawling over each other, reproducing like cockroaches, crying out with hunger and in deprivation whilst serving a rich few who live in gated communities, or soon, silicon castles protected by alligator drones and death rays.
My personal opinion is that it is almost cruel and selfish and not too bright to bring children into the world these days when the odds against them are so very bad from the condition of the environment to the real probability that they will be increasingly enslaved in a grim, dystopian future designed and run like a bad video game by the wealthy recipients of the plundering that is going on. The kids of these rich will have even better toys than luxury cars, jets, yachts, mansions, etc. We are being swallowed in a hi-tech, psychopathic fantasy come true.
Too much kochery going on for my taste.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)they also have higher rates of abortion. Laws against them doesn't stop them from happening...
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Fuck I am so sick of these assholes I'm ready to start breaking things.
Trascoli
(194 posts)would she be in a mental hospital if she had 5 abortions?
NickB79
(19,233 posts)And while you're at it, pray for no more babies with horrible birth defects that pretty much guarantee they'll die horrible deaths shortly after birth.
When that happens, and you agree to start passing out free birth control on every street corner to whoever asks for it, then we can talk.
librechik
(30,674 posts)or a healthy society. What a douche.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)That guy needs to stfu and stand out of the way.