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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. That's the kind of lawsuit that gives atheists a bad name.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:28 PM
Apr 2013

Suing to have part of the wreckage from the 9/11 attacks thrown out of the 9/11 museum because it happens to be in the shape of a cross? No wonder the Daily News called it "one of the dumbest lawsuits in American history".

Arkansas Granny

(31,506 posts)
3. Actions like this is why I refer to myself as a non-believer ,
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:35 PM
Apr 2013

not an atheist. I might find this display kind of tasteless, but to each his own. I wouldn't protest something like this unless it was infringing in someone's rights.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
4. No dumber than putting a part of the wreckage from the 9/11 attacks in a museum...
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:36 PM
Apr 2013

...because it happens to be in the shape of a cross.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. Like it or not, it's part of the history of the attacks.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 08:12 PM
Apr 2013

I'm sorry that you and the folks who filed this lawsuit find this so hard to deal with.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
8. Like it or not, some random chunk of cement was also part of the history of the attacks.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:57 PM
Apr 2013

Yet nobody's too impressed with random chunks of cement from the WTC.

Judge me all you like, but you don't have a clue how I'm "dealing with" it. I really haven't spent any time thinking about it for weeks since I saw the last post on the subject. I try not to waste much of my time thinking about superstition.

I was simply pointing out the glaring flaw in what you were saying. You can't say, when referring to Atheists, that they're stupid for having a problem with it because it "happens to be a cross" unless you can also admit that it's stupid for Christians to demand it be displayed because "it happens to be a cross." The same rules apply. Nobody--Christian, Atheist, or otherwise--is demanding that any other debris be put on display in a museum.

But again, I don't really give a shit. I just find it revealing when issues like this come up and attitudes like yours surface. You're so comfortable in your contempt for Atheists that you truly don't see why anyone would have a problem with the whole thing. No different, in my opinion, from backwards hicks not seeing what's wrong with calling a grown black man "boy." It's their normal, and they're perfectly comfortable with it. What's that boy's problem?

P.S. If the museum receives government funding, and the museum displays the cross to commemorate a national tragedy that touched Americans of all stripes, this is endorsement of a religion by the US government. I could be wrong, but I seem to recall some old, silly law against such things.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
9. Plenty of atheists have contempt for the atheists who brought this ridiculous lawsuit.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:20 PM
Apr 2013

See upthread, for example.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
10. Atheists,
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:19 PM
Apr 2013

we are bound only by our atheism. We are republicans and democrats, men and women, gays and straights, blacks and whites. We accept every person as they are as equals, and delight in our diversity (not many religions can say that). We disagree with each other on many issues, and discussion is encouraged and common. Above all, atheists demand the right to disagree, even if it means with each other.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
11. Well if those people speak for all atheists, I suppose Rick Santorum speaks for all Christians.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:52 PM
Apr 2013

Atheists have every right to have a problem with the fact that they are an invisible group in civic life in the US. I, personally, would not have gone to the effort to bring this kind of a suit against anyone, but that doesn't mean the complaint is not valid.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
5. Now wait a minute....
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 08:02 PM
Apr 2013

I am not an engineer are anything but do they want to tell me there were no other parts of the towers that crossed in a perpendicular fashion? There were no other right angles in the structure? If not, then this really would be a miracle! The structure probably wouldn't have been able to stand up. Otherwise, there were thousands of these in that building and it's means absolutely nothing.

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