O'Malley weighing 2016 White House bid

[octoberlib]

Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) said he’s considering a run for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016 — and will spend the latter half of this year focusing on whether a White House bid is feasible.


O’Malley, a former Baltimore mayor who has been the subject of presidential speculation for years, said he’s “occasionally mentioned” alongside Hillary Clinton and Vice President Biden as a potential 2016 contender because of his legislative achievements.



“By the second half of this year, I need to be spending a lot more energy and time giving serious consideration and preparation to what if anything I might have to offer should I decide to run for president in 2016,” O’Malley, 50, told the Baltimore Sun’s editorial board on Wednesday.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/293265-omalley-weighing-2016-white-house-bid#ixzz2QBRX4iDy

[Katashi_itto]

1. That is very good news!

It would be the only thing that would get me to vote after this administration.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

2. I'd like it.

He managed to pass gun control and repealed the Death Penalty in Maryland, and the state avoided the worst of the recession thanks in good part to his policies.

If Hillary runs (still not convinced that it's inevitable) she'd likely suck all the oxygen out of the room, but if not, O'Malley could be a very viable candidate.

[winter is coming]

3. Okay, I'll admit to knowing nothing about this guy.

Could some Maryland DUer fill me in?

[elleng]

5. GOOD guy.

Posted from NYT here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1056227

[winter is coming]

9. Interesting; thanks! n/t

[elleng]

4. This in NYT:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1056227

[FSogol]

6. He has my vote. n/t

[dsc]

7. I would love to see him run

I would likely vote for him even over Hillary.

[DakotaLady]

39. Yes ...

... I would too.

[montanacowboy]

8. I'm on board

I like this guy and he might just be the real deal

[madinmaryland]

10. O'Malley 2016!! He would make a great President! Very Progressive!

[Maven]

11. Good - someone with an actual progressive RECORD

[Jackal87]

12. Re:

Wooooo!!! Add him to the next in line of McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis and Kerry.

[HappyMe]

16. So, you don't like

this idea of O'Malley running?

[Jackal87]

17. Re

I wouldn't mind any generic democrat. But we need winning candidates that can maximize votes and appeal. Warren, O'malley, biden , cuomo, sanders.... these guys are nice but were not going to win a lot of states with that candidate pool. Plus Massachusetts candidates have been bad luck for either party (remember romney?) since JFK died.

[HappyMe]

18. Who would you like to see run?

[Jackal87]

20. Re:

Hillary clinton. call me a corporatist, dino, or whatever. But ill explain if you need me to

[HappyMe]

21. Ack!

I am not so sure she can win, and I don't like the 'dynasty' thing either.

I'm wondering who the ratpublicans are going to put up.

edit to add - Explain, please.

[Jackal87]

23. Re:

People are complaining about dynasty have to really find something else they really really hate about her. Thats to the tune of... but he uses an samsung!! not a american iphone!! . Otherwise thats sum cosmetic complain you got there.

And consider if the economy isnt strong enough by 2016. We need a candidate that can hold against the republicans. And The crop of candidates i just mentioned: cuomo, warren, o'malley, sanders and maybe biden. Would be considered too liberal for most americans. And you can scream: But *insert name generic democrat* is sticking up for the working class!!! If that strategy won then McGovern,Mondale, Dukakis and kerry would of won but they didn't.

At least with the amount of appeal hillary will be getting when the female vote springs up for her in 2016 just like the black+hispanic vote did for obama 2008/2012. She'll be a much better choice. I'd rather win and get 70% of what i want then vote for somebody who represents 100% of what i want and then crash and burn in the general election. Plus hillary would have really really good coattails for the 2016 senate and house election along with winning 400+ EV's in 2016 (Add texas, missouri, west virginia, NC,SC, Georgia, Indiana and arizona).

Fellow progressives are falling into another 1972/1984/1988/2004-esque trap if they only want a candidate just because that person appeals to them then the rest of the country.

[HappyMe]

28. Hillary isn't going to move anything forward though.

We will get the status quo. If we don't have a majority anywhere else, nothing will get done. We need all of it. President, Congress and the Senate.

I am female, and I would never vote for someone just because they are a woman. That said, I seriously don't think she can hold up against a republican. She has too much baggage. I don't hate her. She did a great job as SOS, but I think it's time for her to retire. I also am not so sure of her appeal to the rest of the country.

[Jackal87]

31. Re:

status quo

So would you rather a retreat into conservatism just because obama isnt 100% liberal enough??? The lessons from 2000 will never be gone in my mind when ultra liberals betrayed gore and got bush two terms.

because they are a woman

And i'm a dude, and im voting for her. i supported obama in 2008, way before he even announced his candidacy, when he was just gossip on a few blogs i've read.

hold up against a republican

What are you smoking???

Poll: Hillary Clinton tops native sons Rubio, Bush in Florida
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57575601/poll-hillary-clinton-tops-native-sons-rubio-bush-in-florida/

Clinton could win Texas
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/01/clinton-could-win-texas.html

Clinton, who has been touted as a possible presidential candidate in 2016, topped a group including Vice President Joseph Biden, House Speaker John Boehner, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, and Clinton successor Secretary of State John Kerry.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/free/20130208hillary-clinton-outranks-obama-popularity-poll.html


Elections are won by winning states not ideological appeal. And the key to winning states are appeal and only hillary will have that in 2016. Everybody else will be DOA.

[HappyMe]

34. Good luck with that.

What will you do if she doesn't run?

[Jackal87]

36. Re:

I'll still vote for the democratic candidate, but prepare for a huge upset if hillary isnt the candidate. Hint: Republicans take back Colorado, Nevada, Ohio, Virginia, Florida. Oh i forgot to mention, elections are won by winning states. And with Obama fatigue just like bush and clinton fatigue, kicking in, in 2016. Don't expect a democrat to win again so easily.

[carolinayellowdog]

43. nobody needs to hate anything about Hillary to prefer another candidate

let alone really, really hate her-- one can like her and be uncomfortable with dynasties

[Jackal87]

45. Re:

This "dynasty" argument is irrelevant, i really really wish people just told me what they hate about her instead of hiding behind smug words.

[cali]

13. Interesting guy. would be an appealing candidate. Can't imagine he's

got much in the way of name recognition nationally, but hey.

[Bay Boy]

14. Headline said O'Malley, I was thinking O'Reilly...

...like in Bill O'Reilly.

[carolinayellowdog]

15. FWIW the first time I saw him interviewed on TV, I thought "future president"

but I sure as hell never thought that about Dubya so my premonition may be worthless

[davidn3600]

19. The Hillary supporters wont like this

According to them, everyone is supposed to bow out and hand her the nomination.

[HappyMe]

22. Tough shit.

They'll get over it.

[winter is coming]

24. Meh. If she's so irresistable, it shouldn't matter who's running.

I'm thoroughly skeptical of all the "she's a shoo-in" statements, probably because I heard people making the same predictions in the run-up to '08, and they were wrong.

[Jackal87]

26. Re:

If she doesn't get the nomination then expect a split bigger then 2000, probably even more then the clash of 1968. Im just warning you there will be a huge huge huge disappointment if hillary doesn't get the nomination in 2016.

[winter is coming]

27. That's not what happened in '08, so why should we expect that? n/t

[Jackal87]

29. Re:

Because financial crisis and bush presidency. A lot of democrats aren't going to show up, especially a lot of women. And im warning you that most democratic voters aren't liberals but moderates. Just because a democrat won last time does not = Win next time. Clinton won 378 electoral votes in 1996 and gore won only 266 had it not been for ultra liberal naderites.

[winter is coming]

30. This far out, we have no idea of who's going to show up, or who will be on the ballot. n/t

[HappyMe]

32. Why won't women show up?

We have a lot at stake. You seem to think that if a woman is on the ballot, we are just mindlessly going to punch the 'female' ticket. Not so.

As far as I'm concerned, a Dem can win next time too. Unless the asshats have bigger plans for the next voter suppression extravaganza.

[Jackal87]

35. Re:

I said "a lot of women aren't going to show up" because they backed hillary and backed obama because they'd rather vote him then the republicans. A lot of woman want hillary to run in 2016, Listen to me. People are not going to back the same party twice without a reason. George HW Bush lost a ton of votes that reagan got and lost the election in 1992 by falling out even more.

This isnt about she's a woman, im more concerned how some liberals want a purist candidate with little appeal then voting for hillary who appeals a lot to the country as a whole.

"Dem can win next time"

Yeah remember gore??? Clinton had 378 votes and gore got 266 votes. a loss of 112 electoral votes. If you think people will back the democrats no matter what next time then prepare yourself when rubio or christie become president.

[winter is coming]

42. I'm not playing the "electable versus purist" game this far in advance of the primaries.

Especially since the person you're touting as "electable" didn't even get the nomination the last time out.

And your reasoning vis a vis Bill Clinton and Al Gore is rancid. Bill Clinton's always been a more likeable, personable candidate than Gore. Despite having some good ideas, Gore lacked personal appeal. That, and the Republicans' animosity for the Clintons, which Gore caught the edge of (having been VP), hurt Gore badly in 2000.

[Jackal87]

46. Re:

"electable versus purist"

Do i have to repeat what happened with McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis and Kerry??? Both were too left of the center, romney lost last year because he went too far right. I want a candidate that can win not a won that fits my progressive beliefs. Otherwise the guys i just mentioned would of won, but they didn't.

Also had it not been for Bill's scandal then gore would of won florida and new hampshire quite easily. So imagine if the economy doesn't improve enough for most americans by the next four years. Then it would be extremely harder for another democrat to win in 2016. And Hillary can hold a republican surge. Everybody else is DOA. Please truthfully tell me if you think People like sanders(he won't even be running as a democrat), o'malley, biden, cuomo, warren, etc etc. Will have a coattail effect to win the senate and the house??? Especially the south??? Or do you want a candidate that barely wins the election and lets the republicans win the senate along with more republican house members because the dems decided to put in a weak candidate because one faction wanted a pure candidate instead of a one with broad based *cough* hillary *cough*???

[winter is coming]

47. If the economy doesn't approve, the country's more likely to favor a candidate

who's against undermining the social safety net, rather than a so-called centrist.

[Jackal87]

48. Re:

Yeah and was that why reagan lost in 1980 and 1984??? People vote for the opposite party if the person can't fix the economy, everything the other guy has said goes out the window.

[winter is coming]

50. Using that logic, it doesn't matter who the Dems run in 2016. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. WARNING! This candidate may NOT be injurious to your nose! And, may derail the 3rd Way!

[Capt.Rocky300]

33. I like O'Malley a lot but.............

He needs some new speech writers and to work on his delivery. I was disappointed in his performance at the Democratic National Convention.

[librechik]

37. I thoroughly approve of O'Malley--if he wants to run, that would be awesome!

hmmm--I wonder if he's Catholic...

[Autumn]

38. The more the merrier. I'd like to see a dozen at least.

[brooklynite]

40. Considering that O'Malley was shopping for support in Charlotte...

...I'm not sure "weighing" is the right word

[DonCoquixote]

41. expect this candidate to be labeled a sexist

if he dares threaten Queen Hillary.

[Samantha]

44. I am ready to spring into action for you, Governor O'Malley, UNLESS

the Maryland legislature decides to eliminates deductions from personal income taxes and you sign off on it. That would be a deal breaker for me. I read last week the legislature is considering this option to offset the nearly one-billion dollar deficit Maryland faces. Think how that would hurt the recovering housing market!

That aside, Go! You deserve it.

Sam

[AzDar]

49. Yes, please.

[TwilightGardener]

51. Go for it!

[treestar]

52. Already?

This process goes on long enough. We just had an inauguration. 2014!

[broiles]

53. I'm all for him running. I don't want Hillary.

She's a hawk. Plus she's too old.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

54. I heard Gov. O'Malley had a Kenyan birth certificate.

It was on the internet so it must be true.

[BeyondGeography]

55. Would love to see him compete