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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:32 PM Apr 2013

At Least Four People Have Been Shot by Toddlers Since Last Weekend

At Least 4 People Have Been Shot by Toddlers Since Last Weekend
By Andrea Peterson
ThinkProgress

All week, official Washington is fixated on the question of whether the 14 senators who’ve promised to filibuster any gun safety legislation will succeed in their efforts to maintain the status quo. Meanwhile, gun violence continues unabated in the rest of the nation. In a particularly tragic chapter in our nation’s struggle with such violence, at least four people — including two children — were seriously injured or killed since last weekend in accidental shootings where toddlers obtained loaded weapons...

The rest: http://www.alternet.org/least-4-people-have-been-shot-toddlers-last-weekend?akid=10314.1084699.B3ixzo&rd=1&src=newsletter822988&t=13

...if only there had a been a good toddler with a gun around.

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At Least Four People Have Been Shot by Toddlers Since Last Weekend (Original Post) WilliamPitt Apr 2013 OP
Those opposed to increase gun safety cvoogt Apr 2013 #1
What's even more disgusting... Initech Apr 2013 #3
they're really just pro-target cvoogt Apr 2013 #4
How would a magazine capacity limit or background check have stopped these incidences? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #7
the only safe gun is a non-existent gun.. cvoogt Apr 2013 #8
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #9
Thank God you're kids only 2 weeks old. trumad Apr 2013 #2
The Terrible Twos, indeed! FSogol Apr 2013 #5
RUN! It's the Killer Toddlers! HappyMe Apr 2013 #6

cvoogt

(949 posts)
1. Those opposed to increase gun safety
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:41 PM
Apr 2013

should be called baby killers, to borrow a phrase they are familiar with. The gun lobby and their flock of sheep should consider their position on being pro-life or pro-choice; their choice to defend gun rights at any cost is costing innocent lives. Maybe they ought to consider being pro-life on more than just abortion. I am so tired of this insanity.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
3. What's even more disgusting...
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:47 PM
Apr 2013

Is how the people who claim to be "pro life" are buying into right wing ideaology and NRA propaganda and are more likely to own guns. If they really were "pro life" they'd be against killing in all it's forms, not just fetuses.

cvoogt

(949 posts)
4. they're really just pro-target
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:52 PM
Apr 2013

the more lives there are, the more targets. Without more targets, they'd have no enemies to obsess about. And if some or most of those 'enemies' turn out in fact to be 'collateral damage' then so be it, Jesus is a'comin' soon anyway and surely Gawd will look after the poor babies. God must have meant for those toddlers to accidentally shoot people .. it is all part of his plan, uh uh.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
7. How would a magazine capacity limit or background check have stopped these incidences?
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:25 PM
Apr 2013

In fact, which law being proposed would have prevented these shootings?

It seems gun safety classes would help but if you take one of those I'm told you're an accessory after the fact to the Sandy Hook tragedy -- or so we're told.

cvoogt

(949 posts)
8. the only safe gun is a non-existent gun..
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 08:05 PM
Apr 2013

OK, not quite, but I do think gun safety classes would be a positive thing. Not just for the initial license, but for renewal every few years. The person who passes a class one year might lose their passion for the hobby after some time, or might develop mental issues, might have the family situation at home change, etc. Periodic re-certification seems like a decent idea to me but I'm sure it's been talked about before. I believe there should be a minimum age for licenses. I just don't trust a teenager to handle a gun no matter how much training they get; that includes rifles, short-barrel, any gun hat can kill. We don't those under 18 vote; why let the young-uns (or young-guns?) use a deadly weapon under that age? Or at the very least let's use the driving age as the federal minimum (let's say 14 to be generous since that's the driving age in SD), after all so many folks use the cars = gun analogy.

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