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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:56 AM Apr 2013

Social Security is mostly Fine. Medicare is a Mess. Neither would be difficult to fix...

...if the people of these United States wanted to fix them.

The way to fix Social Security is to get to full employment, and with higher wages.

If, after that, more is needed then raise the cap a little or raise the tax rate a little or have a bake sale.

The way to fix Medicare is to have a national single-payer health system. A system that covers all people would cover older people, on account of them being people.

Without knowing exactly how the financing of that single payer system would shake out, the good news is that we know that the total $$$ currently being spent on healthcare would more than cover it, so there would be no need to steer any greater portion of national GDP to healthcare.

Done and done.

Anybody who talks about the problem of Medicare who is not proposing a single payer system is a crook or a dumbass. Ignore such people. This is a two-party nation and we will, of course, continue trying to make the less bad of two such people President and Congressmen and such, but that is no reason to take them seriously when they whine about healthcare costs without proposing a single-payer system.

Just because we must elect people who parrot idiocy does not then require us to become idiots ourselves. The best solution to health costs is known. If the known solution is "impossible" (sic) then solving the health care cost problem is "impossible" and we might as well just stop talking about it altogether.

It is undignified to have a national circle-jerk to discuss ways other than climbing this ladder we have right here to get onto the roof.

Our problems are voluntary and optional. They are not perplexing. They do not lack solutions. We just chose not to fix them.

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Social Security is mostly Fine. Medicare is a Mess. Neither would be difficult to fix... (Original Post) cthulu2016 Apr 2013 OP
I agree with most of what you say with the final caveat... dkf Apr 2013 #1
It's so darn simple, but it's so darn hard. LeftInTX Apr 2013 #2
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
1. I agree with most of what you say with the final caveat...
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:28 AM
Apr 2013

Social security isn't enough to live on. We need another form of forced savings that IS NOT given to the Treasury.

A sovereign fund would be good.

LeftInTX

(24,541 posts)
2. It's so darn simple, but it's so darn hard.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:50 AM
Apr 2013

It's so straight forward, yet the Republicans don't want to fund it. Sure Obama caved, but he wouldn't have if the House was controlled by Dems.

I think the third way stuff has been about compromising with Republicans, mainly so that we attract independent voters. However, in this case it won't appeal to independents.

But you state the problem very clearly. In the 1970s, this was never an issue.

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