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kickysnana

(3,908 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:52 PM Apr 2013

Isn't Chained CPI Obama's "Don't Ask Don't Tell?"

That was so wrong at the time and only changed the nature of the abuse of people's civil rights.

I was worried when Obama came out of the Chicago area and I was right. He seems to think all answers have to be corrupt to some extent or they are not adult, tough and worthy.

Wish his Mom and grandmother was invading his dreams and setting him straight. Even his Dad, if given the power he was given would have told him to use it for good, not self-esteem.

The Power of the People can be great and good. The power of the Corpokrasty, the Military-Industrial-Complex the 5% has no moral or ethical base. It is greed based and abuses and corrupts both power and anyone who tries to cling on. Building your house on sand.

There is a thought in there somewhere but it has been a long couple weeks here.

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Isn't Chained CPI Obama's "Don't Ask Don't Tell?" (Original Post) kickysnana Apr 2013 OP
No. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #1
+1 nt NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #2
Maybe I better go have another bourbon and water tularetom Apr 2013 #3
In that it is, like DADT, pointless, indefensible triangulation? Yes. DirkGently Apr 2013 #4
too bad he forgot about his father-in-law CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #5
It is his NAFTA. dawg Apr 2013 #6
That's more like it. I'd go with your second option, personally. Marr Apr 2013 #10
No. Fearless Apr 2013 #7
I wish it wouldn't happen, but still show me one SS benefit that will be less than it is now. kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #8
Only for those who are utterly ignorant of history dsc Apr 2013 #9
Touche! kickysnana Apr 2013 #11

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
5. too bad he forgot about his father-in-law
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:03 PM
Apr 2013

Fraser Robinson who died of complications of multiple sclerosis.

He worked until he died it sounds like, going to work with two canes to prop himself up with so he could pay for Michelle's education -- not the norm for persons with this disease.

He was dead at the age of 55 years.

>>Fraser Robinson worked swing shifts for the city of Chicago, tending the boilers at a water-filtration plant. "My father was not college-educated,'' said Craig, head basketball coach for Oregon State University, but was "full of integrity,'' the "gold standard'' of husbands, and "a hardworking man who raised two kids when he had multiple sclerosis.''



It could not have been easy and I do not know how he did it. Maybe he'd have lived longer if he'd gone on SS ...



dawg

(10,622 posts)
6. It is his NAFTA.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:20 PM
Apr 2013

Or maybe his "Ending Welfare as We Know It".

Clinton was no prize, either. Both men have some wonderful qualities, but the last truly liberal presidency ended with a bullet.

(I don't give LBJ full credit due to the war. Plus, I think he gets too much credit for things that were put into motion by JFK.)

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
10. That's more like it. I'd go with your second option, personally.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 12:19 AM
Apr 2013

It's an underhanded, Third Way attack on the working class and the poor, done in service to wealthy interests.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
8. I wish it wouldn't happen, but still show me one SS benefit that will be less than it is now.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 12:04 AM
Apr 2013

Choosing to buy into the RW and MSM and yes, even Sanders' framing of this issue does not help Dems now or in the future. Mr. Obama will be long gone and SS benefits will still be paid and no current recipient will get less money than they are getting now. Slowing an increase is not taking away something that you have. And we don't know what the economy will be like in 50 years.

But I will say this, I wish Obama would raise the cap instead of doing what he is proposing. But it's a huge mistake to fight our President now...it will only embolden the GOP and we won't get anything done.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
9. Only for those who are utterly ignorant of history
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 12:13 AM
Apr 2013

Clinton wanted full gay participation in the military (he had already issued an executive order protecting gay employees in every other government department including the FBI and CIA). It was only when Congress went bonkers that he compromised and did DADT. DADT was in improvement over the situation before DADT. Before DADT, gays were routinely rounded up by investigators and forced out of the military (if they were lucky) or put in Leavenworth (if they were unlucky). At the time, allowing openly gay military personnel was well below 50%. You could count the states with employment protection on one hand and have fingers left over. SCOTUS had, just 7 years before, ruled that Sodomy laws were constitutional. Was DADT ideal? No. But we were facing a Congressional codification of the ban on gays along with the still existing sodomy law in the USMJ.

In comparison, cutting SS is wildly unpopular while not cutting it is very popular. If nothing is done, SS will continue as it has been and life would be fine. No old people would be going to Leavenworth.

But other than that, they were totally the same.

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