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agent46

(1,262 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:03 PM Apr 2013

You know that massive national general strike that's going to be needed soon?

Back in the heady days of Occupy, organizing a general strike was clearly a direction the movement was headed. Occupy enclaves across the country were starting to self-organize and communicate with each other. Divisions were being overcome. Many excellent outside-the-box ideas were being tried and some of them were sure to stick. A few of those would have certainly lead to forced change and higher civic and social awareness across America.

I think "the establishment" knew that. They were justifiably alarmed and produced the iron boot. I also believe a general strike would have happened by now if the movement hadn't been taken down by the unconstitutional HLS directed police state - which remains in place.

So what's next? I think concerned Americans and progressive activist groups of every kind need to network and organize silently and massively online. The tools are there. We need to create a monolithic front of inter-reliance and communication in order to peacefully unplug the corporate regime from control of our political power. Just because this has never been done, doesn't mean it's not possible to make history now.

This pattern will keep repeating until we do.


I came across this excellent book a few years ago. It explores the idea of a self-organizing movement of countless smaller activist organizations gathering their power together to ultimately achieve the progress each have been striving for. I'm not selling this by the way, just recommending it. It's called Blessed Unrest by Paul Hawken






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You know that massive national general strike that's going to be needed soon? (Original Post) agent46 Apr 2013 OP
Thanks... haikugal Apr 2013 #1
people start protesting they make protsting illegal what recourse do we have - maybe ows should have leftyohiolib Apr 2013 #2
I agree agent46 Apr 2013 #3
Well, forty five years ago nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #20
I'm game.... Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #4
It wasn't a loss agent46 Apr 2013 #7
That is so true Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #15
Occupy is not an organization, and we have not "disbanded". Zorra Apr 2013 #9
Yes you are still here agent46 Apr 2013 #11
I'm sorry - I meant Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #14
Organize silently online? Brickbat Apr 2013 #5
Union is your religion agent46 Apr 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Brickbat Apr 2013 #12
Lots of were and would have and should have in there... Pointy_n_sharp Apr 2013 #8
That's how agent46 Apr 2013 #10
Kicking in hopes that DU agent46 Apr 2013 #13
I'll believe it when I see it Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #16
I think your idea is timely and worth exploring seriously. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #17
It's time to revive the "One Big Union" idea. killbotfactory Apr 2013 #18
One Big Union agent46 Apr 2013 #19
Non lethal force technology mick063 Apr 2013 #21
Yes agent46 Apr 2013 #22
 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
2. people start protesting they make protsting illegal what recourse do we have - maybe ows should have
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:20 PM
Apr 2013

gotten violent instead of just sitting there and taking the pepper spray

agent46

(1,262 posts)
3. I agree
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:34 PM
Apr 2013

Protesting in the street doesn't work like it used to. If our voices aren't being listened to because we have no leverage, no matter how loud or angry we get, our protests won't change anything.

I'm suggesting something more radical that doesn't include making noise in the public square. I'm suggesting upping the game. Using the online tools available now in 21st century, people and organizations can organize and communicate like never before. ALEC has done this massively - entire state legislatures have been turned into pawns of the corporate right.

I see no reason why ordinary Americans and progressive organizations can't start getting on the same sheet of music. The infrastructure and expertise is already in place.

Believe me, I'm no leader. But the leaders are all already there. They can start networking and moving forward together. The labor movement of the early 20th century accomplished much through organizing international solidarity with far fewer tools at their disposal.

Actually, this idea isn't even radical these days, come to think of it - just the implementation would be.

What is there to lose? Seeing how there's no one at the top watching out for the people of this country anymore.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. Well, forty five years ago
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:18 PM
Apr 2013

There was an illegal strike in Memphis...

Then last week there was a hunger strike in San Diego. You need to lose that fear.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
4. I'm game....
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:44 PM
Apr 2013

Occupy was bullied! The way the organization was illegally disbanded by the Koch brothers and ALEC is a stain on our democracy.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
7. It wasn't a loss
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:06 PM
Apr 2013

The Occupy movement introduced the 99% meme and woke up much of the country to the reality of class warfare. It changed the national dialog on many levels.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
15. That is so true
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:10 PM
Apr 2013

Again, my lack of words, didn't accurately portray my thoughts. See #14.

But I do want to support the movement of any actions to bring justice and change the way our country is being run.

Just watched Chris Hayes do a segment about what the banks are paying out to people who were foreclosed on, illegally. It is obscene how little the people who lost so much and went thru hell are getting and what the banks, CEO's and auditors have made!
Between intelligent journalism like that and the OM, people will begin to push back.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
9. Occupy is not an organization, and we have not "disbanded".
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:07 PM
Apr 2013

We are a leaderless resistance movement, and we're all still here.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
11. Yes you are still here
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:10 PM
Apr 2013

That is a fact. The Occupy movement is in no way a loss. I hope my posts didn't suggest that - or that it is a single organization. It is most certainly a hub - a movement of committed human beings. I get that.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
14. I'm sorry - I meant
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013

that your gatherings were so violently disbanded, not the actual existing group.

I shouldn't post when I'm not up to snuff and omit key words.

I stand corrected on the word, organization.

I know you're still there, quietly doing the work that will save our country.

Response to agent46 (Reply #6)

agent46

(1,262 posts)
10. That's how
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:09 PM
Apr 2013

That's how heuristics works, Pointy_n_sharp. Don't mistake learning from the past for Pollyannaish regret.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
13. Kicking in hopes that DU
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:14 PM
Apr 2013

is more of an Underground for Democracy than just a Democratic Party message board.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
16. I'll believe it when I see it
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:32 PM
Apr 2013

That's one of the things I admire about the Brits, and the French. When their citizenry is pissed off they take to the streets.

In this country, outside of those who are activists like the OWS folks, it's just a lot of talk. What a national strike would require is rank and file people getting out and expressing themselves in ways they haven't before. I'm talking about soccer moms, white collar types and the like. People who in the past haven't otherwise been political or politically active.

As it is most people here are either too apathetic, or too worried about reprisals both by their employer or law enforcement to really take to the streets and make some noise en masse (I'm talking millions). We've largely been neutered in that regard.


 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
17. I think your idea is timely and worth exploring seriously.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:37 PM
Apr 2013

Even if a general walkout was conducted for an hour or two it would send a powerful message.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
19. One Big Union
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:07 PM
Apr 2013

Nothing is stopping the citizens of this country from massively taking action in solidarity. I wonder if the Occupy movement activists and citizen journalists are still networking with each other and live streaming across the country or if that infrastructure is even still in place. Does anyone know?

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
21. Non lethal force technology
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:27 PM
Apr 2013

It is the wave of the future.

Mob control is where your tax money is being spent. It is cheaper to implement than actually feeding people and now that we run government like a business, it makes good business sense as well.

I feel sorry for your grandchildren. We are then envy of the old Politburo.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
22. Yes
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:15 PM
Apr 2013

And that's why taking activism and massive organizing to cyberspace (as described above) makes sense.

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