Let's take a moment to remember who helped create this whole North Korea situation

[Hugabear]

Remember when Bush included North Korea in his "axis of evil" remarks? Under the Clinton administration, we had been making fairly decent progress with North Korea, getting them to suspend some of their nuclear programs. Then along comes BushCo, intent on resurrecting Reagan's cowboy diplomacy, where everything is in stark black & white - you're either "with us or against us" mentality, and labeling North Korea as part of his axis of evil.

If not for Bush, we may very well be looking at a different North Korea today. Not necessarily a more open and free North Korea, but perhaps one that wasn't such a threat.

[CJCRANE]

1. Also he should've made North Korea his biggest priority

in 2003, not Iraq.

Iraq did not pose a threat to the US (or the world) at that time.

[Nye Bevan]

5. +1. Should have clamped down on NK years ago (nt)

[Coyotl]

2. I wonder if Clinton wants to go to North Korea

and take her husband

[bemildred]

3. John Bolton. nt

[HappyMe]

4. Yup.

Jon Stewart had Jimmy Carter on last night. The chimpy tossed out the agreement and declared the an axis of evil.

[Scuba]

6. Can we just send Lil Kim a present? He might enjoy pulling the wings off John Bolton.

[madokie]

7. The worst presidents we've had

were saint ronnie and little boots

[Throd]

8. Ya know, George Bush aside, they are pretty damn evil.

[Spider Jerusalem]

9. No, North Korea lied about suspending nuclear weapons development.

They didn't just restart it because Bush became President; they flat-out lied and kept it up anyway.

The mountains of North Korea are largely deserted places, limestone and basalt massifs that are covered in snow in winter and humid in summer. There are a handful of barely used official guest-houses that cater for the tiny handful of tourists allowed into the country who make it as far as ranges like the Fragrant Mountains from the capital of Pyongyang.

But it is what is happening beneath these mountains that caught the attention of the world this Christmas: the allegation that they hide vast factories and plants excavated secretly by night by armies of workers, thousands strong, and dedicated to North Korea's nuclear ambitions.

It is an enterprise that was described in detail for the first time in August of 2001 in the South Korean magazine, Shin Dong-A. According to the magazine, it had managed to lay its hands on a Chinese intelligence report, which had in turn been acquired by South Korea's own CIA, then leaked to journalists.

(snip)

A blunt admission came from North Korea itself last October: it conceded it had constructed a secret programme to build nuclear weapons, hidden away from the nuclear weapons inspectors it had agreed to admit under military pressure from the US in 1994.

Under pressure from the US, which had discovered that North Korea was trying secretly to procure tonnes of high-grade aluminium tubing suitable for a gas centrifuge enrichment process, American diplomats confronted the North Koreans.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/dec/29/northkorea

This went on for years, it went on despite admitting inspectors, and it happened when Clinton was still President. Must as I loathe Bush, it's ignorant to claim he had anything to do with NK not stopping their nuclear weapons programme.

[snagglepuss]

10. This isn't about that POS its about the other POS, KimJongUn.