I bought a handgun on the internet

[Duckhunter935]

and I had to have it shipped to an FFL and complete a background check. Darn I thought I could just get it shipped to my house from what I here here and on the news.

[PeaceNikki]

1. You could have purchased from a private seller and bypassed all of that like the guy who shot up the

Azana spa here in WI.

[The Link]

2. Your family is now much more likely to be killed by a gun.

Congratulations.

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. Buy local.

Check with the guy a the convenience store or the bartender, he probably has some good contacts to circumvent that process.

[PeaceNikki]

4. the OP didn't exploit a loophole, ergo, they don't exist...

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Absolutely.

What was I thinking? My bad.

[Pholus]

7. I "hear" that there are no loopholes "here."

So the spelling matches the logic.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

30. Depends on the state he is in and if buyer and seller are in the same state

Not all states allow private sales. A sale that crosses a state border requires an FFL.

[Pholus]

40. So, unlike the assertions of the OP

you may or may not need to do the paperwork.

Thanks for reemphasizing the main criticism of the OP.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

43. Actually it supports the OP

He did an interstate xfer and went through an FFL as is required.

[Pholus]

45. Oh dear. A logical puzzle here....

Statement 1) The OP only said he had to fill out the form and transfer to an FFL contrary
to what he said he heard here and on the news.

Statement 2) You make the presumption without evidence that the transfer was
interstate and that the FFL was required for that reason.

I guess my question is: What about the OP leads you to believe the transfer was interstate?

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. You could have gotten a better deal

from the guy in your local grocery store parking lot.

[RedstDem]

8. there are ways around doing any checks obviously

but thank you for going the regulated route, hopefully we can make a greater percentage of private sales go that path in the future.

[Javaman]

9. here? hear. nt

[jmg257]

10. Cool! I know someone who bought a gun from online,

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and the guy shipped it right to him! Didn't care at all about sending it to an FFL.

Ah well...one may deal with all kinds, on the internet.

[oneshooter]

34. I had a pistol I bought online shipped directly to me.

44 cal revolver

[PD Turk]

41. Pre-1899? manufacture date? nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

11. What a traumatic experience that must have been for you.

[pipoman]

12. I've been curious about those claims too..

not sure where the "no background checks on internet sales" comes from. Every gun auction site and forum "for sale" I have ever seen requires sellers to ship to out of state sellers via an FFL. I have bought and sold a few over the years in this way and have found every seller requires this and every buyer expects it..Just another half truth or outright lie from gun controllers which insures nothing will change...don't know why these people can't just be honest about shit..."gun show loophole"...not about gun shows and not a loophole by anyone's definition..how about calling it what it is...something like 'private sale exemption'? Telling lies when the truth would work better..

[99Forever]

13. Three words for you.

"Private owner sale."

Curiosity ended.

Duh.

[pipoman]

14. A 'private owner sale'

on the internet still requires use of an FFL if the buyer and seller live in different states..a private seller shipping a gun to a non-FFL buyer in another state has violated federal law and is subject to up to 10 years in Federal prison. The question is why the dishonesty? Why not call it 'private owner sales' rather than the fictitious "gun show loophole" or stating (a lie) that internet sales aren't subject to background checks nonsense? What is the purpose of confusing the issue at virtually every single turn?

Duh.

[99Forever]

16. Oh please.

Who the fuck do you think you are fooling?

Seriously. What a crock of bullshit.

Proving yet again:

Gun culture is a mental illness.

[slackmaster]

18. The Astute Reader will note that 99forever hasn't identified anything untrue in pipoman's reply.

Because every word pipoman wrote is true.

[pipoman]

21. LOLOLOLOLOL

this is exactly the point...every single word I wrote is completely true and you wish it wasn't with so much anger and hatred that the truth has been stated that all you have is ad hominem...truly, truth is stranger than fiction...LOL

[99Forever]

23. Blah blah blah

Straight out of the Delicate Flower playbook. You need to get some fresh material.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

31. He is quite correct. Cross the state line and an FFL transfer is mandatory

Hating is a mental illness according to many Duers.

Why do you hate guns and gun owners?

[jmg257]

17. Probably 'lucky' that those are thought to be loopholes...sounds like that may be the

extent of "universal" background checks (inet sales, gun show sales*), which will accomplish very little.


*I am not sure how common it is for unlicensed sellers to function as dealers at gun shows, or how many guns they move.

[pipoman]

22. Every gun show I have been to is almost entirely FFL dealers

and every sale they make at the gun show requires a background check..There is only one kind of sale which does not require a background check...just one, contrary to proclamations by big gun control, these are intrastate sales between two people who are both residents of the same state when the seller is not engaged in the business of selling firearms...all of these other silly claims all come back to this same type of sale..people who don't follow this issue are naturally confused into believing all kinds of falsehoods entirely because of big gun control's inability to simply tell the truth..

[oneshooter]

35. I haven't had a FFL background check done in almost 15 years

In that time I have bought and sold dozens of firearms.

[Starboard Tack]

46. Do you think that is a good thing, or should the rules be changed?

[Mnpaul]

39. Absolutely correct

I have personally done many of these transactions.

[blueamy66]

15. Why bother paying the shipping costs?

Just buy one down the street or across town from your house.

On and congrats. I'm sure you'll sleep more soundly from now on.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. So since you actually followed what we'd like 100%

Of legal gun transfers to follow, the major loophole does not exist?

Good to know.

[DainBramaged]

25. Wow

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[Kolesar]

28. Yeah, he already has a forum for RWKBA he could use...eom

[oneshooter]

36. Why do you hide the rest of it?

Current GD "big news" exceptions: Guns (3/22/13)
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There now, isn't that a lot more honest.

[DainBramaged]

37. Go and pound each other on the back

you folks are as honest as snakes on a plane....

and I put you on ignore just because.

Bye by Mr. oneshooter, it suits you well.

[oneshooter]

38. They get real touchy when their lies are exposed.

[rdharma]

26. Private sale........ BUT....

....you bought it from another state. Am I correct?

[Kolesar]

27. ^Two sentences with an implicit insinuation that DUers lie about gun policy

Why don't you write about what the policy is, instead of "teasing" the forum with your tale of woe?

[Exultant Democracy]

29. Congradulations, may Darwin watch over you

as he watches over all those who are more likely to kill themselves or a loved one, because they needed more manhood around the house.

[Duckhunter935]

32. To all that replied

Purchased through a dealer in another state. Followed all current laws. I live alone and they are secured when not in use. I have over 20 years of military training and have completed my state required CCL training. The only thing I shoot or ever plan on shooting is paper targets at the range. Worked good for me for the last 30+ years and I have not killed anyone.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

44. I pray you do not have a mental breakdown. nt

[cthulu2016]

33. If you had ordered in-state would be different

[Duckhunter935]

42. depends on the state

as it is a state responsibility and not the federal government responsibility. Try an instate transaction in California.