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USA vs UK reactions to Margaret Thatcher's death (Original Post) MrScorpio Apr 2013 OP
Not sure it's the difference between Americans and Britishers as much as it's....... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #1
It's even worse than the tweets you posted tularetom Apr 2013 #2
Chris Matthews was pathetic because malaise Apr 2013 #27
america is run by economic fascists fascisthunter Apr 2013 #3
Lawrence O'Donnell was very correct in his assertions about Thatcher. raging moderate Apr 2013 #4
Well, anyway, Well to the left in her accomplishments. raging moderate Apr 2013 #5
she initiated privatization of nhs and initiated the destruction of public housing in the uk & the HiPointDem Apr 2013 #8
Well, she was Reagan in drag. So there you go. Safetykitten Apr 2013 #6
Isn't this cherry-picking? TimberValley Apr 2013 #7
I thought the same thing... For this to be fair, the British one should have octothorpe Apr 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #10
I don't see much concern about how thatcher is portrayed in that post fishwax Apr 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #21
So? n/t fishwax Apr 2013 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #30
because it interested me fishwax Apr 2013 #31
gor blimey! datasuspect Apr 2013 #23
Liam Kelly, Marc Almond, Frankie Boyle and Louis Sampins are all celebs IN BRITAIN MrScorpio Apr 2013 #13
ftr, at least some on the british side are public figures fishwax Apr 2013 #14
Yeah, I was just going to point out Curley MrScorpio Apr 2013 #16
indeed -- I confess I'm not really familiar with Boyle's work, though fishwax Apr 2013 #18
Marc Almond... Soft Cell WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #11
for the record, I think Patrick Curley is from the U.S. fishwax Apr 2013 #15
Whoever put this graphic together screwed that one up MrScorpio Apr 2013 #17
All I know is that Meryl Streep ... KennedyBrothers Apr 2013 #19
I commend Ms. Streep on her work… MrScorpio Apr 2013 #20
Agreed on both fronts! LeftishBrit Apr 2013 #24
The reaction in the UK is very divided LeftishBrit Apr 2013 #22
So, conservative pundits reacted differently than liberal entertainers RZM Apr 2013 #25
Further proof that Michelle Malkin has absolutely no fucking clue what she's talking about... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #26
And Morrissey had a very different reaction from President Obama. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #28
"Finally, I get to wear my black suit and tap shoes together" Yavin4 Apr 2013 #32

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
1. Not sure it's the difference between Americans and Britishers as much as it's.......
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:51 PM
Apr 2013

the difference between the capitalist ruling class and it toadies and the working class. Not that I'm that up on British pols and PTBs, but I recognized all of the American names, but one, as part of the bourgeois ruling class or it's apologists. The British tweets seemed to be regular people.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. It's even worse than the tweets you posted
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:52 PM
Apr 2013

Because they were from wingnut/republican tweeters.

But the mainstream media was every bit as disgusting. Yesterday I listened to Chris Matthews, Andrea Greenspan and some other douche having orgasms over how "tough" and yet "human" she was and how she "saved" the UK. It went on for 15 minutes and it was enough to make you puke.

On the plus side, an hour or later, Chris Hayes and some panelists pretty much ripped the hide off her rotting carcass. Guess you just have to pick the right Chris to watch on NBC.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
27. Chris Matthews was pathetic because
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:22 AM
Apr 2013

he is a barrel of contradictions. How can you correctly attach ReTHUGs for taking away voting rights from Americans while praising the author of the poll tax (which led to her being removed as party leader) in Britain.

There is not one consistent bone in Tweety's body.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
3. america is run by economic fascists
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:02 PM
Apr 2013

and their bootlicking brown-nose wannabes.
"money, power... give me my precious! Pretty please!

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
4. Lawrence O'Donnell was very correct in his assertions about Thatcher.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:22 PM
Apr 2013

Lawrence O'Donnell's analysis was very insightful. He pointed out that Margaret Thatcher was actually well to the left of today's US centrists. I was also glad to hear him point out that Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher DID NOT cause the collapse of the Soviet Union! The signs of increasing decay and impending collapse were obvious long before they came to office. I have a book entitled "Will the Soviet Union Survive Until 1984?" by Andrei Amalrik, originally written in Russian, published in 1970 by Harper & Row and the Alexander Herzen Foundation.

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
5. Well, anyway, Well to the left in her accomplishments.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:47 PM
Apr 2013

She left their National Health Service intact, and she did not try to privatize their postal service, and she actually set out to increase the percentage of mortgage holders. Of course, she and St. Ronnie were devoted followers of Milton Friedman's Chicago school of economics, which basically believed the ancient idea that might equals right, and wealth is the proof of moral superiority. Thatcher and Reagan of course started trends which are being carried to greater extremes today. Their monetary policies have led more and more to motivating rich people through rewards and poor people through punishments.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
8. she initiated privatization of nhs and initiated the destruction of public housing in the uk & the
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 12:09 AM
Apr 2013

subsequent mortgage bubble.

she was every bit as bad as today's bunch and was part & parcel with them.

when you set out to knock over a building, you don't do it all at once or the neighbors might complain. thatcher and reagan were phase one; we are now in phase three.

that doesn't mean the phase one players were 'better' or 'different' or 'more left'. it just means they were operating under different conditions.

 

TimberValley

(318 posts)
7. Isn't this cherry-picking?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:50 PM
Apr 2013

It seems like you picked quotes by American public figures or relatively well-known individuals, but from the British side you're not sampling equally well-known British figures, but rather, private citizens?

octothorpe

(962 posts)
9. I thought the same thing... For this to be fair, the British one should have
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 02:33 AM
Apr 2013

quotes from people in similar positions (or whatever)

Response to TimberValley (Reply #7)

Response to fishwax (Reply #12)

Response to fishwax (Reply #29)

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
31. because it interested me
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 12:28 PM
Apr 2013

Both his sentiment (which I felt as well, given that the image in the OP cherry picks tweets that, in my opinion, could hardly be said to represent Britain's view or America's view--Ralph Reed, Eric Cantor and so on certainly don't speak for America as far as I'm concerned) as well as your response.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
13. Liam Kelly, Marc Almond, Frankie Boyle and Louis Sampins are all celebs IN BRITAIN
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 03:26 AM
Apr 2013

Google their names, if you don't believe me.

Just because YOU don't know who these people are, why is that MY problem?

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
14. ftr, at least some on the british side are public figures
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 03:27 AM
Apr 2013

Not right-wing politicians/activists, as with the American side, but rather performing artists. Frankie Boyle is a comedian and Marc Almond is a musician. Patrick Curley is a musician, though not as well known as Marc Almond. (Also, Curley is actually from the United States--don't know how he wound up on the British side.)

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
18. indeed -- I confess I'm not really familiar with Boyle's work, though
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 03:36 AM
Apr 2013

I've heard of him. Almond, of course, I know because of Tainted Love

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
11. Marc Almond... Soft Cell
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 02:55 AM
Apr 2013

Of course anyone who worships at the shrine of Reagan will eulogize Thatcher. Remember how great those years were? They sure don't.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
17. Whoever put this graphic together screwed that one up
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 03:34 AM
Apr 2013

But at least their heart is in the right place

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
22. The reaction in the UK is very divided
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:05 AM
Apr 2013

The Sun and Daily Mail and Daily Telegraph, and many of the politicians, are full of stuff like your American examples. Poor people especially in the north, and those who represent them, are more likely to expresse the second type of reaction!

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
25. So, conservative pundits reacted differently than liberal entertainers
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:21 AM
Apr 2013

I don't think we needed a graphic to learn that. Comparing such different groups says absolutely nothing about Britain vs. the US.

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