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kentuck

(110,950 posts)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:23 PM Apr 2013

What would it take to get Repub voters to change their mind about their Party?

I am just about convinced that nothing will make them think twice about voting for their Party? They can get caught lying about hiking the Appalachian Trail, making plans to expose the medical conditions of their opponents, taking wide stances in bathrooms, blocking legislation to keep more children from being killed by maniacs with assault rifles, wearing diapers in a whorehouse, and numerous other transgressions and their supporters act as if nothing ever happened?? There are no consequences for anything.

How do you compete with such a Party? Their leaders know they can get away with just about anything and still be supported by their voters. They hate and distrust the Democrats that much. No one can break thru the wall that separates them from reality. They refuse to be educated about anything. They just smile and act as if nothing ever happened or to shrug it off as "just politics". Then all we can do is wait for the next nut to walk into a school and mow down 20 more children with an assault weapon. They don't give a shit.

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HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
1. Third Party?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:28 PM
Apr 2013

My Repuke husband has an extreme mental block against DEMS, yet he himself has said the the Republican Party, especially on social issues, has been hijacked by the religious right. He voted for Perot over Bush, sat home the 2nd round, but still voted for barf Romney. A third party could very easily woo him away from the Republicans though.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
3. But Republicans very adeptly corral any attempt to form a 3rd Party....
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:32 PM
Apr 2013

just like they did with the Tea Party. When it might affect them, they can manage it.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
2. Some Republicans have noticed how crazy the GOP is becoming and starting to speak out
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:31 PM
Apr 2013

Example below ...

Michael Steele On GOP Filibuster: ‘At Least Pretend You Give A Damn About What Happened’

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is the most recent of 14 Republican Senators to promise a filibuster against the package of gun regulations, including universal background checks, that the Senate is set to consider this week. That filibuster effort has been condemned by everyone from President Obama to his 2008 presidential rival, Sen. John McCcain, but former RNC Chairman Michael Steele may have launched the most bitter friendly fire yet. On Chuck Todd‘s The Daily Rundown, Chairman Steele seemed to suggest that these Republicans are monsters, who don’t even care what happened in Newtown, when he urged those GOP Senators to “At least pretend that you give a damn about what happened.”

Senator McCain has expressed bemusement at the filibuster threat, while the White House has framed it as cowardice, but even the most strident critics of the 14 GOP Senators have not suggested that they’re simply heartless bastards, numb to the suffering and loss that Americans feel in the wake of the Newtown mass shooting. In a Daily Rundown discussion of the politics behind that threatened filibuster, however, that seems to be what Chairman Steele suggested.

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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/michael-steele-on-gop-filibuster-at-least-pretend-you-give-a-damn-about-what-happened/


 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. There are many republicans who voted for Obama.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:38 PM
Apr 2013

Regan supporters who now vote for democrats. I think the democrats have been pulling away republican voters for a long time now. Many republican voters who just can't vote for a democrat have become disenfranchised. I think the Tea Party created a lot of excitement and got many people who normally don't vote, or vote for third parties, to vote for the republicans. Their excitement is slowly dying out. Bush really ran for his first term as pretty moderate to those who weren't paying much attention. I think he was really trying to bring the Regan democrats back into the fold.

The bad part is that I think that I am seeing the effects of republicans moving over to the democratic party. Example: social security on the table.

shenmue

(38,501 posts)
6. Sorry to say
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:38 PM
Apr 2013

But I think pretty much nothing will change their minds, for some of them.

It's really a religious matter for the right: we are holy and everyone else is unholy, no matter what anyone does or says.

Complete garbage, but that's what they believe. They want the end to come soon.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
7. I'm sure this is the danger that Washington and the Founders worried about with political Parties..
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:46 PM
Apr 2013

Party affiliation became more important than the issues and responses to problems that might face our country.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
10. This will only get worse as the republican party shrinks....
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 05:39 PM
Apr 2013

As it is now a good portion of the republican party live in some form of altered reality.
These are the type of people that believe in welfare queen Cadillacs.
The type that think that funny noise under the hood is in YOU'RE imagining.
As more and more see through the outright lies, those left will become further entrenched in the misgivings of GOP co.
Herd animals believing that their 'tribe' can do no wrong.

It's likely to get ugly as the realize that the world is not the one in their fanatics.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
11. Both parties cling to delusion and need to wake the hell up.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 05:43 PM
Apr 2013

Our only hope is to become the 99 percent.

What we face is a bipartisan corporate assault on 99 percent of us. We must come together as the 99 percent to stop it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2620923


Corporate money and power is the problem.

Our government, both parties, was purchased by the one percent, and 99 percent of us have been disenfranchised. They are not running Republicans and Democrats for office anymore. All major party candidates are corporatists, or they do not have the money to compete.

Nobody in the 99 percent is being represented. We are all being played, Democrats *and* Republicans, and we are all fed with lies about each other to keep us fighting each other instead of the ones who are doing this to all of us. The big ugly secret on DU is that Republicans across the country are just as angry as we are.

Just as our politicians lie to us about wanting to protect public education and the social safety nets and unions and the environment, their politicians lie to them about wanting to stand for small government, limited government interference in private lives, and the defense of civil liberties.

If we could agree across party lines on just one thing....that our representation has been stolen from ALL of us by the corruption of money in the system....we could join together as the 99 percent to get the corporate money out and demand our representation back. When elections are for the people again, and corporations are not allowed to select our candidates, we can have a real fight in the public square about Democratic versus Republican philosophy. And real Democrats will win.

Right now, we don't get any choice at all. We get two candidates pushing essentially the same corporate agenda, by and for the one percent.


kentuck

(110,950 posts)
12. You are right that both Parties cling to this delusion...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 05:59 PM
Apr 2013

...but there are a good number of Democrats that will at least question what their Party is doing? Just my observation, but it seems that there are much fewer Republicans willing to criticize their Party even for the most egregious stands.

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