Gun magazine maker who threatened to leave CO over magazine limits, now making smaller magazines

[Robb]

You can't make this up. Integrity!!

After several years stuck in development while we worked on the standard-capacity GEN M3 magazine technology, the PMAG 10 GEN M3 is finally shipping. MSRP $13.95

And their Facebook fans go wild!

Erik Stone That's not standard capacity. That's low-capacity.
23 · April 3 at 3:43pm

Magpul Industries Corp. Poor copy reading. We have consistently referred to our 30 round products as standard, and all others as "reduced".

Ethan Lamb Put another way, you've made a magazine in compliance with the laws of the gun grabbers. Intentional or not, it sends the wrong message.

Magpul Industries Corp. If NY makes soda illegal should stores stop selling bottled water?

Bob Pratt I'd refuse to make them. You merely facilitate these politicians ambitions...

Pete Scalzo I dont think it's the concept of the 10rnd Mag that bothers people it's the timing. Especially since just a couple weeks ago Cuomo said he was rethinking their magazine ban because too few manufactures make 10rnd magazines. GUESS HE WONT BE RETHINKING IT NOW! It's good to have dIfferent capacity mags but still it's about timing Magpul could of probably waited a while with this until all the Magazine bills blow over. JUST SAYIN!

Ron Barthelt I have to agree. Wrong time to be bragging about your 10 round mags! Thats BS such a thing should even exist. I am not buying it and I don't know how many people would want it in my combat troop. Looks stupid in the gun. Yes hunting in the woods might use a mag like this but if you are going stand up and have a pair do it right and don't give the gun grabbers a clip they can say.... oh look Pmag has a new 10 round clip.... now you all can be happy with 10 rounds. Standard capacity is 30. Lets leave it at that.

Jake Bormann 30s only for this patriot

John Daniels Really bad timing, guys.

Tony Carotenuto 30 rds or nothing

RT Moore screw this BS. when did you decide to surrender?

Magpul Industries Corp. There appears to be continued confusion over the 10 round GEN M3, it's development, it's timing, and terminology. We talked about this when we first announced it back in January...we've been working on this magazine for over 2 years

Bobby Stamper Several years my ass... you guys just had your bluff called & you didn't hold to your word by moving out of Colorado and now you're conforming into making the 10 round state legal magazine you said you would never make... seriously how does nobody else see this? How would it take years to put a different sized spring in a smaller magazine with 20 less rounds to a Mag you already have perfected? Don't take us as fools...You guys talked big talk expecting a win but lost and now are doing nothing you promised. I for one find this very sheepish for a supposedly pro 2nd amendment company /:

Ryan Deutsch most people who feel guilty about something usually feel the need to explain themselves

etc. etc.

[hack89]

1. Since the state of Colorado allow the manufacture of 30 round mags

how dangerous can they really be? Surely the state would ban the manufacture of a product that is a threat to public safety? Surely they would not place corporate tax dollars before the lives of people living in other state?

It is like CT strengthening their AWB while ensuring that Colt continues to build and sell guns they cannot sell in their home state.

[Robb]

3. California allows Lockheed to build all those missiles, takes all that tax revenue

...and we upstanding citizens don't get to even own ONE.

Buncha hippycrits.

[hack89]

8. Because those missile kill so many Americans

I thought 30 round mags and AR-15 were a danger to public safety. CT and CO seem to think otherwise - at least when it comes to the citizens of other states.

It is baldfaced hypocrisy - which you will refuse to address directly.. How you justify it?

[Hoyt]

4. How many 30 cap mags do you have/need?

[hack89]

12. I have all I need.

because they are perfectly legal and will continue to be legal under any propose gun control law in Congress. I see no reason to throw them away just to alleviate your irrational fears.

[Hoyt]

25. I see no reason to have them to assuage your irrational fears of venturing out without one.

[hack89]

27. It is illegal for me to carry a loaded AR-15 around.

when I go to the range to shoot, the unloaded rifle is locked away in the trunk of my car.

I don't carry in public - I live in a safe area.

[LanternWaste]

34. We often confuse need with want.

We often confuse need with want and desire. It allows us greater opportunity to justify our own positions and minimize those of other with melodramatic (yet useless) words like "irrational fears".

It gets old, but then... so do all bumper-stickers.

[hack89]

36. I have all that I want.

and they represent no threat to anyone. If they did, surely Senator Feinstein's proposed law would ban the possession of them. But it doesn't.

[Hoyt]

37. I'm sure Lanza, Holmes, Loughner, Zimmerman, etc., felt same thing right up to shooting . . . . .

[premium]

38. And what does that have to do with Hack89?

Are you saying that Hack89 will turn into a killer because of the hi cap mags? Do they emit special signals that cause someone to become a killer?

[Hoyt]

41. I think it's pretty clear -- all gun cultists think they are an exception and will never cause an

issue, directly or indirectly. Kind of like no drunk driver thinks they are going to have an accident, they can handle their bad habits. But, some prove themselves wrong, just like gun cultists who believe they will never be a problem, have an accident, shoot an unarmed teenager, or worse.

[premium]

44. And yet 99.99% of gun owners will never hurt anyone. nt.

[Hoyt]

62. Depends on how you define "harm." Did Lanza's mom/dad cause harm? Does Wayne LaPierre harm?

Did NRA Prez Keene cause harm when he raised his son in a right wing gun loving family, to the point Junior went out and shot someone in a road rage incident?

Does your promoting more guns in more places cause harm the next time a child shoots themselves, the next massacre, the next robbery with a stolen gun, next time a racist uses an easily available gun to intimidate, on and on?

I think it does cause harm, even though you might not actually pull the trigger.

[hack89]

40. Go talk to Senator Feinstein and the President.

they don't seem to have a problem with me keeping them.

btw - Zimmerman's gun had a 7 round magazine.

[Hoyt]

42. Zimmerman was still a gun nut who thought he wouldn't kill someone. They all do, right before . . .

[hack89]

43. And yet 99.99% of gun owners will never kill someone.

so why not concentrate on that dangerous .01%?

[A Simple Game]

45. Yeah, Zimmerman didn't need no 30 shot clip! I don't hunt anymore but

when I did my rifle had a 5 shot clip, which was 3 more than I ever needed at one time.

But if you aren't a good shot, well you have to compensate don't you?

[hack89]

46. I don't hunt so I wouldn't know.

in competitive target shooting, most stages require at least ten rounds in a short period of time. I use my 20's and 30's when practicing.

[A Simple Game]

51. When I did target shooting I used a single shot. We tried for accuracy, what are you trying for?

Most noise? Any more than 5 shots on one of those thin barreled gun and the accuracy is gone.

[hack89]

53. I take it you are not familiar with the most popular shooting event?

high power rifle is the competition I shoot. Modified AR 15s are the standard rifle and they are accurate as hell. I understand your passion. But perhaps you should do some.research before you embarrass your self.

[A Simple Game]

54. They use AR-15s in the Olympics? I didn't know. n/t

[hack89]

55. Not talking about the Olympics

I am talking about an extremely popular target shooting competition in America.

[Robb]

58. Seat tossin'. I seen it on TV.

[hack89]

64. You will not get what you want without the help of gun owners

one day you are going to have to choose between serious conversation or childish point scoring. If you are serious in your concern about saving lives then perhaps you should approach the issue in a serious manner. Right now you are making it easy for the NRA.

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. Use your head, Hoyt. What if Kim Jung Un and his army shows up?

What're you gonna do - hide under the dining room table, or give him a good 'ol dose of 'Mericun 2A homegrown firepower?

Good Lord, man - just think about it.

[Hoyt]

26. I've actually been in a position to counsel these poor souls.

Watching them slobber over a 30 cap mag is an experience.

And yes, those N Koreans -- with the big hats -- are definitely a threat to our shore and justification for assault weapons and accessories.

[marcusc81]

59. Some would say 30 cap mags are too small

[Hoyt]

2. So they were bluffing, and now they are telling those who love hi-cap mags to just suck it up. LMAO

I think more of the right wing gun profiteers will do the same thing. They'll probably sell a 20 magazine bandoleer for the well dressed gun nut, who is afraid they will run out of bullets fending off an unarmed teenager who is running away from them after stealing a MP3 player (or shooting them in the back).

I guess moving to Alabama or Texas is tough after you've been in Colorado awhile, even if the state says screw your company's products.

I'm sure gungeoneers don't care because they all have a storeroom full of hi-cap mags, along with all the other lethal gun paraphernalia they need to feel alive in this big scary world.

[FSogol]

9. "...I don't know how many people would want it in my combat troop. Looks stupid in the gun."

I love that comment. "Whaaa, It looks stoopid!"

"His combat troop."

His parents should have taken him fishing or bowling more, I guess.

[Robb]

17. There's still time.

I bet if he hollers upstairs and asks, they can all go bowling.

[FSogol]

19. Take the Gun Nuts Bowling

[premium]

14. They're still moving as of 5 days ago.

They weren't bluffing, they're already starting to move.

[Hoyt]

28. Good to see them stick to their principles. What red state are they moving to?

[premium]

32. I don't know.

They were looking at Wyoming, Nebraska, Utah, Montana, Idaho, Nevada, Texas, Arizona, along with a half dozen other states.
Hopefully, they relocate to Nevada.

[NickB79]

52. No, they're making 10, 20, AND 30-rd mags at the same time

They didn't drop any high-capacity magazine models. They added a smaller magazine to sell in states like California and Connecticut.

They're making more money than they know what to do with right now. I checked their website, and they're backordered for months on pretty much everything they make.

[Hoyt]

56. Funny how a few Democrats get all giddy about a lethal weapons manufacturer making money.

[NickB79]

65. Not giddy, just noting the irony

The gun companies have sold, in a few months, YEARS worth of the very weapons that gun control advocates have sought to control on nothing more than rumors and fear. Gun control has been a boon for their industry, which I find very ironic.

[Hoyt]

66. Well the way I look at it, one gotta be friggin sick to go load up on assault weapons

after something like sandy Hook, but then gun cultists obviously have issues. You also have to wonder about those who applaud a bunch of sick gun nuts adding to their weapons cache after something like that.

[FSogol]

5. Variety in their product line? Somebody call the Whaaaaamublance!

[marcusc81]

60. Keep your government hands off my medicare!!

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. You don't suppose they were bluffing, do you?

Nah, they'd never do that.

[DesMoinesDem]

7. Nothing wrong with having a variety of sizes.

Not everyone wants a magazine that holds 30 rounds or more.

[99Forever]

10. Nothing I love more than seeing Delicate Flowers...

... with their undies in a bunch, whimpering and whining. It's kinda heart-warming.

Gun culture is a mental illness.

[premium]

11. Are you saying that they aren't producing high capacity mags anymore?

Or are they just adding to their product line?

[auburngrad82]

13. So now the company can sell 30 round magazines where legal and 10 round mags where the 30s are not

Sounds like a sound business plan to me.

I don't own a gun and have no use for one, but this shows just how nutty the gun crowd is when they feel this guy, who is looking out for the best interest of his company, expands his product line and potential sales.

[riqster]

16. ^This^

You nailed it. He's running a business. Adding this product is good for his business.

[premium]

20. Exactly,

I don't see what the big deal is here.

[riqster]

23. The gun nuts think he should be making political decisions instead of business decisions

You know, "30-round mags are essential, my company stands for our sacred second amendment rights yadayada", something like that.

Instead, he's making a rational, market-based business decision. No wonder the gun nuts are outraged.

[premium]

24. Ahhhh.

Ok, I get it now.
Thanks.

[onehandle]

18. His dick lie has made his name known.

For an industry that 'values secrecy,' they sure like to paint targets on their own backs.

[sarisataka]

21. Indeed

if you read through more of the (mostly positive) comments on their FB page and the company's replies, it is clear the target market is hunters who need lower capacity magazines and 'assault rifle' owners in NY and CA who have legal restrictions.

I believe in the not too distant future, many of those mocking this move will be crying that Magpul is exploiting a 'loophole'

[GreenStormCloud]

61. The gun-control crowd is accusing Magpul of hypocrisy for making smaller magazines.

Read the thread.

[Travis_0004]

63. At least one person gets it

Plus, they started designing these long before Newtown or any of the laws were passed. They are just now getting around to releasing them.

[rrneck]

22. "we've been working on this magazine for over 2 years"

It's a box with a spring in it. That kid in Texas could make one out of plastic in about an hour.

It always comes down to money and marketing.

[Hoyt]

30. Yep. It comes down to greed and a disregard for society.

[rrneck]

33. The biggest market is fear and bigotry. nt

[Erose999]

48. Logic and common sense doesn't sell guns.

[rrneck]

57. Logic and common sense don't sell much of anything.

Especially ideology.

[Erose999]

31. Take the existing magazine, chop half a foot off of it. Problem solved.For these consultant services

they can just send me a check for $300,000 to my post office box address.

[TheCowsCameHome]

47. As if the owners don't have enough shortness problems.....

[sarisataka]

49. If you can chop half a foot off...

and it still works, shortness is definitely not a problem

[Erose999]

29. The gun nuts spend half their time talking about how mag bans are unnecessary, and the other half

crying about "them libruls" taking their 30 rd. mags because they absolutely MUST HAVE 30, and 10 is just not enough. (never mind that the British ruled 60% of the face of the Earth for decades using 10rd. mags and bolt action rifles).

"looks stupid in the gun". Yeah, and you look stupid carrying that gun through J.C. Penny, asswipe. I care more about not being shot by a homicidal maniac than I care about than your ability to accessorize your magazine to match your BBQ stained T-shirt and sweatpants with your beer gut hanging out.

[rdharma]

35. And their Facebook fans go wild!

[slackmaster]

39. Finally. California has a large market for 10-round AR-15 magazines.

I for one welcome Magpul's decision to make 10-rounders available.

[NickB79]

50. Nothing hypocritical or odd about it

They're now making 10, 20, and 30-rd magazines, all at the same time. This makes good business sense, because there are several states that have bans on high-capacity magazines, and it's possible more states will follow suit. Given time, I'd bet money they'll start selling 7-rd magazines specifically for the New York State market (NY's new gun control law only allows 7-rd mags).

The only way this would be hypocritical is if they decided to ONLY make 10-rd magazines, something they're clearly not doing. They've been backordered for months since Sandy Hook on 20 and 30-rd magazines; they're making more money than they know what to do with at the moment. Gun control legislation has driven their business through the roof.

Also, I would believe it took them 2 years to develop this new magazine. They are well-known in the gun world for over-engineering and testing the hell out of everything they make. I'll probably sell all my old 30-rd magazines and pick up a bunch of these 10-rd Magpul magazines, just because they have such a good reputation for quality.