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kpete

(71,961 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:24 AM Apr 2013

She increased taxes-She supported socialized medicine-She believed in climate change & gun control

Why The Modern Republican Party Would Reject Margaret Thatcher

She supported socialized medicine. The modern-day GOP is so obsessed with trying to repeal Obamacare that they’ve held nearly 40 votes to do so. But Obamacare is actually a much more conservative health care policy than the socialized National Health Service, which Thatcher lauded as an accomplishment of the United Kingdom. “I believed that the NHS was a service of which we could genuinely be proud,” she wrote in her book, “It delivered a high quality of care — especially when it came to acute illnesses — and at a reasonably modest unit cost, at least compared with some insurance-based systems.”

She increased taxes. Spending actually rose during Thatcher’s first seven years in office, as the New York Times reports, and taxes took up a larger percentage as share of gross domestic product. Indeed, even by the end of her time in office taxes were still a higher percentage of GDP than they were when she arrived:

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She believed in climate change. Thatcher was an early adherent to climate science, and once warned, “The danger of global warming is as yet unseen but real enough for us to make changes and sacrifices so that we do not live at the expense of future generations.”

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She recognized that gun laws can limit gun violence. After a deadly shooting rampage in England, Thatcher said, “If [gun laws] need to be tightened up, or if we think that it could prevent anything more like this, then of course that will be considered.” A year later, the government passed the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988, which outlawed semi-automatic weapons, changed requirements on registering guns, allowed police to refuse a weapon to anyone they saw unfit, and allowed the Home Secretary to add other guns to the list of banned firearms.


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DUers, please do not think for one moment that I supported Mrs. Thatcher...
just want to point re-emphasize title:
Why The Modern Republican Party Would Reject Margaret Thatcher
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She increased taxes-She supported socialized medicine-She believed in climate change & gun control (Original Post) kpete Apr 2013 OP
She was a bit of a shyte to the coal miners and other unions.... MADem Apr 2013 #1
Kick In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #2
B.S. She busted unions and broke the English worker -All the Rpugs already love her! lunasun Apr 2013 #3
I don't think the OP is painting her as a pseudo progressive. progressoid Apr 2013 #6
You had me scared... russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #4
Repubs loved her back then oldandhappy Apr 2013 #5
Cause she's a fucking warmonger. Iggo Apr 2013 #8
Sounds like a perfect DLC candidate. nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #7
You could say a lot of the same shit about Ronnie Rayguns.... Wounded Bear Apr 2013 #9
socialized medicine =/= obamacare. KG Apr 2013 #10
You are correct that the NHS and the ACA are not the same Kennah Apr 2013 #13
tax revenues went up, but that does not prove she increased taxes hfojvt Apr 2013 #11
I Thought She Lowered Taxes On The Rich Initially........... ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2013 #12

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. She was a bit of a shyte to the coal miners and other unions....
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:29 AM
Apr 2013

but she was closer to a conservative Dem than the GOP of today.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
3. B.S. She busted unions and broke the English worker -All the Rpugs already love her!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:45 AM
Apr 2013

She is already in place as a saint with reagan to the repugs of now

What the Tory government under Margaret Thatcher and then John Major did to the public sector has been followed by all the repugs here
The Modern Republican Party folks all know her name and deeds -she is part of their histroy myth.

Sorry but get real- she is is one of the idols for them- a trailblazer

Thatcher’s government embarked upon a war against working-class rights and living standards. Prevailing expectations about the need for a welfare state, trade union rights, publicly owned industry and services, social housing etc, were battered down with a philosophy, which promoted individualism, privatisation and free market economics.“There is no such thing as ’society’” she said

Please do not paint her as psuedo progressive now

progressoid

(49,945 posts)
6. I don't think the OP is painting her as a pseudo progressive.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 11:00 AM
Apr 2013

Just less conservative in some areas than the today's wacko right wing...."Why The Modern Republican Party Would Reject Margaret Thatcher

They think their heroes are beacons for conservatism. But they fail their own litmus test. Like they think Ronny Raygun was a fiscal conservative when he was the opposite.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
5. Repubs loved her back then
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:56 AM
Apr 2013

Yes, maybe a problem for them today, but you can be sure they will be giving warm tributes.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
9. You could say a lot of the same shit about Ronnie Rayguns....
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 11:30 AM
Apr 2013


They were both psychopaths beholden to and controlled by multinational interests that destroyed lives, and whose policies continue to do so. They were populists who made transparent appeals to the masses and fucked them at pretty much every turn. The idea that they could not be elected now by their conservative synchophants holds no water IMHO. Didn't vote that way then, and I would piss on their grave now if I had the chance.

Their legacy is firm with me, and it ain't a good one.

Kennah

(14,234 posts)
13. You are correct that the NHS and the ACA are not the same
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:00 PM
Apr 2013

Jules might say, "It ain't the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport." However, I do think ACA puts us on the road to playing the same sport--universal healthcare.

That said, the NHS came into existence in 1948, so Maggie Thatcher had little to do with it's creation. Her government reformed NHS. Perhaps it was a genuine desire to do good. Perhaps it was a moment of political wisdom in which she knew that if the Tories tried to get rid of the NHS, they'd spend the next 40+ years in the political desert.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,781 posts)
12. I Thought She Lowered Taxes On The Rich Initially...........
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:45 PM
Apr 2013

..................and that's when England's economic crash happened. I always had the impression that when she first got into office, she did pretty much what all Republicans TODAY are screaming for, and the economy in England absolutely TANKED as a result of it, but she then reversed course, started putting in place more liberal economic policies and then rescued the economy.

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