Here’s All You Need to Bust the NRA

[kpete]

Here’s All You Need to Bust the NRA
By: TuffsNotEnuff Sunday April 7, 2013 5:13 pm

To bust them as blood-gargling psychopaths.

In recent years 38% of the 16,000,000 annual civilian gun purchases were reported as being bought for “home defense.” At a conservative estimate of $500 each, that makes for $8-billion in “home defense” purchases.

But what are these guns used for ?

Not home defense.



This FBI summary of nationwide police reports records a grand total of 232 civilian justifiable homicides. The deceased were engaged in felonies such as threatening or beating the shooters. You are not allowed to shoot trepassers or garage band drummers, no matter their size, shape or smell.

In the details, only 80 of these incidents occurred at the residences of the shooters.

NRA has sold Americans on a claim that there are 1,000,000 to 2,500,000 annual gun defenses.

NRA lies.

THE BLOODY REST:
http://my.firedoglake.com/tuffsnotenuff/2013/04/07/heres-all-you-need-to-bust-the-nra/

[cantbeserious]

1. What - The NRA Wouldn't Spin the Facts - Naw Couldn't Happen In America

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[bossy22]

2. the overwhelming amount of fire extinguishers purchased annually will never be used

that does not mean it is silly buy one

Also, gauging defensive gun use based solely on justifiable homicide statistics is just plain silly.

here is an interesting report (a bit dated, from 1994) http://bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/hvfsdaft.txt

[AnotherMcIntosh]

3. Get ready for some ad hominem attacks.

[Loudly]

5. But are fire extinguishers being used against other people with fire extinguishers?

Are we under a fire extinguisher proliferation threat?

[Ian David]

6. If fire extinguishers were seven times more likely to START a fire than to put one out...

... it would be silly.

A fire arm in your house is seven times more likely to kill a member of your family, than it is to prevent a crime.

So, your fire extinguisher analogy is #fail.

[Pholus]

4. So a good use of your 232 number.

Is in comparing this to other FBI stats.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expandhomicidemain

There were 8772 firearms homicides in 2010.

So the JUSTIFIABLE homicide rate was 232/8772 = 2.6%

So one in 38 murders in 2010 was justifiable.