I have a feeling that Bush and Cheney won't be found guilty of anything until after they're dead

[DainBramaged]

And I'll probably be long gone before them.


Somewhere a secret deal was cut giving these fuckers a free pass.


I want one of those free passes too.


Life ain't fair.

[Autumn]

1. Bullshit, after they are dead they will become

saints in the republican party and the media. And Democrats in charge will give it a pass.

[cantbeserious]

2. I Want To Know Who Cut The Deal - There Is A Place In Hell Waiting

eom

[gateley]

3. Did they do anything ILLEGAL?

Not that I think that's why they haven't been prosecuted, but I just wonder if someone DID come along who was willing to prosecute, if there are legal grounds to do it.

My recollection is that whenever they wanted to do something illegal, they covered their asses first.

[Lint Head]

8. Read The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder by Vincent Bugliosi.

He prosecuted Manson. Anyone living through that time and not knowing crimes were committed do not understand the Constitution or the law.

[Dreamer Tatum]

9. I think prosecutions are generally pursued by government bodies

rather than book writers.

[Lint Head]

10. Vincent Bugliosi was the Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney. That is abaout as "government"

you can get. He is more than just a 'book writer' as you put it. He opinions are more valid than the average person. GWB is a war criminal.

[Dreamer Tatum]

11. Is he a prosecutor now? nt

[Lint Head]

12. No. But that does not make him less of an expert in criminal prosecution and law. The current

powers that be are too cowardly to prosecute the war criminals who devastated the economy and our rights as US citizens.

[Dreamer Tatum]

14. I guess I view this issue as boring and hoary.

They're never going to get prosecuted, period, and meanwhile we operate under the same eroded
freedoms now as then. I don't view prosecution as anything other than vanity unless the Patriot
Act is rescinded, we don't kill people with drones, we get out of places that were illegal to get in
in the first place, Gitmo is shuttered, and the NSA no longer listens to me ordering pizza.

Suppose the utter fantasy came true. I'm W's defense attorney: "If it was so illegal, why is it still
being done?"

[Lint Head]

15. I understand your opinion but I personally don't do boring, hoary and hopeless.

Repetition keeps issues alive and two wrongs, three wrongs and continuing to accept the norm does not make it right. Vigilance is the price of freedom. Hopelessness and futility is the norm without vigilance.

[Dreamer Tatum]

16. I just keep landing on the same square

If it was so bad, why is it still being done?

[Lint Head]

17. What are you doing to stop it? Why are you landing on the same square? Time changes and eventually

there will be justice while you continue land on the same square. Obama has ended torture because people complained for years. Obama did not invade Iraq. Obama did not sit around reading "My Pet Goat" while 3,000 innocent Americans were incinerated. The drone situation has been tempered but the battle is not over. There is a long list of reasons to be vigilant while some folks stand on the square waiting for their bus. I do more than post on DU. To me that is boring.

[Dreamer Tatum]

18. Almost all demonstrably false.

The British just uncovered more alleged torture by the CIA. The drone situation has been tempered? Are you HIGH?
The Patriot Act has been re-upped. Gitmo is still open. Afghanistan is a disaster.

It is clear that you grade on a curve, so your position doesn't surprise me.

[Lint Head]

22. I see you words but you sight no sources. Links please.

[Dreamer Tatum]

24. I need to "sight" sources for increased drone warfare? Oy.

I forget sometimes the lengths that people will go to in order to excuse their idols. My mistake.

[Lint Head]

28. I forget sometimes the lengths that people will go to in order to to say things they cannot back up

with evidence. You mean you didn't read your information somewhere? You didn't witness it or see a video of it somewhere? I have evidence and sources. You have done nothing but make claims. You could possibly convince me with your evidence but you just want to say what you believe and then go on. Apparently 3,000 incinerated Americans in the WTC who did not have to die does not convince you. Apparently the evidence and video of Colin Powell and the Bush criminals lying about WMD does not convince you. Of course things change slowly but if people become apathetic, bored and sit around accusing others of just being hoary nothing will change.

[Hissyspit]

26. Yes.

Multiple offenses.

[spanone]

27. take america to war with false information

[gateley]

29. Yes, I understand that, but is that something we can nail them on?

Again, not that I think it'll happen, but just curious what the charges would be if they did.

[Arkansas Granny]

4. Not only will they never be found guilty of a crime,

history will be rewritten to make them heroes, given their rising popularity since leaving office

[Frustratedlady]

5. As a play on words, the powers that be will say, "Let Dead Dogs Lie!"

"They lied during their lifetime, so let them lie in peace."

Don't hold your breath on Cheney, as his machine will keep his mouth going for many years and when that machine wears out, he'll buy another with his misbegotten riches (or we'll pay for it if they allow Medicare to survive). I think he's terrified of dying, as the devil has his number.

[treestar]

6. I take comfort in the concept that

being so unpopular when they left office and no longer holding power is punishment enough for them. Having to attend a black man's inauguration as President in a wheelchair was probably the greatest punishment as you could impose upon Cheney. Jail would not bother him. He'd just write his memoirs. Also, if you have your health, you have everything, and Cheney hasn't had that in years.

Bush knows he's unpopular. He wasn't even at the Republican Convention, right? That's got to be the worst punishment possible to inflict on Dubya.

[librechik]

7. "oh, hey, now that they're dead, why bother?"

there will never be a time when those fuckers will get what they deserve. Welcome to the new normal.

[Initech]

13. Petty offenders get locked up at the drop of a hat. The real criminals walk free.

And live in obscene, decadent luxury at that. I want to see Bush and Cheney hauled off to the Hauge but that will probably never happen.

[DainBramaged]

20. Guy released from 35 years in jail for stealing a $140 TV

These fuckers stole billions and killed millions and they walk free

fuck justice

[Initech]

25. Really there ain't no justice.

Bush and Cheney started two illegal wars, profited untold billions, killed several hundred thousand, allowed their rich criminal friends to loot the treasury, and turned America into a police state with the Patriot Act. And gave criminal corporations immunity with Citizens United. And we'll probably never hear the full extent of their damage until like 100 years from now.

[MineralMan]

19. I can't imagine a former President being criminally prosecuted

for actions taken while President. As far as I know, it has never been done.

Why? Because it would set a precedent that nobody wants to set. I doubt it will ever happen, frankly.

[hack89]

21. Every president will be accused of some crime at some time.

Look at Obama - some here at DU consider him a war criminal. For that reason alone, no president will prosecute their predecessors for official acts done while in office - they do not want to set a precedent that will be used against them.

[dmosh42]

23. If you ever were in doubt about this being the plutocracy, that's a prime example!