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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWay to go, America. Meals on Wheels funding cut by sequestration. Seniors fearful.
This is ridiculous. It is outrageous. It is the fault of both parties, and it speaks to what our country is becoming.
Funding is also being cut until seniors who are ill are feeling the pain as well. Hubby and I have seen first hand this week how cutbacks in health care are taking their toll. We were hospitalized at the same time, fortunate to have good insurance. But now even that does not insure adequate health care. There are just so many hospital rooms, just so many beds in rehabilitation facilities.
Shame on both parties for these shenanigans about cutting back everything that once was a part of our country.
Meals on Wheels anticipates funding cut impact by October
MANATEE, Florida -- Bradenton Mayor Wayne Poston and Palmetto Mayor Shirley Groover Bryant drove off Wednesday morning to deliver hot food from Meals on Wheels PLUS of Manatee on Ninth Street East in Bradenton to bolster awareness of homebound senior hunger.
Yet, despite the well-meaning of "Mayors for Meals Day," agency officials were preoccupied by the disturbing news of the impact from impending federal budget cuts to its ability to serve those needy residents.
Due to the ongoing sequestration budget battle in Washington, Meals on Wheels PLUS figures to lose $68,000 from funding for its senior services, a development that troubled several people at Wednesday's event.
"It could be devastating. That's a lot of money," said Maribeth Phillips, the nonprofit's chief executive officer. "We're operating very lean as it is, so that's lot of funding for us to make up."
Seniors are scared here. I know, because I saw many this week who are simply living on the edge and feeling fearful of what is coming next. They fear cuts to their services, they fear cuts to Social Security. They are surprised the cuts are being advocated by a Democratic president.
There is no excuse for this, these are political games being played by politicians who are more concerned about re-election than doing their job.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)and feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
jsr
(7,712 posts)The president always has the utmost consideration for our most vulnerable citizens, unlike the rascals on Wall Street - whom he has mercilessly prosecuted for their crimes.
tblue
(16,350 posts)As if that makes a dime's worth of difference.
Hang in there. I hear what you're saying.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)bobduca
(1,763 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)hay rick
(7,588 posts)Brand new. Never been worn.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)The problem is with red state republicans, those people want to be in government but hate the proper function of government so thoroughly that their only purpose is to stop government from working. And many of the people that will be most affected by Sequestration vote wholeheartedly to put their oppressors into Congress, and that, above all else is where the shame is.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)There is such denial here, it is scary.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)his huge $400,000 salary to demonstrate his solidarity with workers who really WILL -- UNLIKE HIM -- be hurt by the sequester is will is obscene and insulting.
pscot
(21,024 posts)Response to pscot (Reply #89)
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AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)There is no way a democratic congress would consider letting us go over any cliff or close down the government.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)mercymechap
(579 posts)soul?
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)In fact I know it! You have to have a heart in order to have a soul.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)or some remote place in the world.
Initech
(100,041 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)wealthy should be very, very concerned at how this is now playing out.
I don't know if scared is a good way to deal with it. Wake up and be aware. Pay attention. Keep some momentum going on good information.
While I understand the fear, we really have to see what is going on clearly and start from knowing that this system is, by no means, functioning in our better interests, even though the megaphone says it is working for us, over and over.
We have a real struggle ahead and fear will only feed the machine, just as pounding into the collective head for the last ten years lost us many of our rights and opened the door for the Fascist police state we are transitioning into.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)They can't help it. Scared is the reality, and our politicians are the only ones who can stop it.
Shame on them.
tblue
(16,350 posts)It's not rocket science.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)republicans that are making their lives hell. Once people that are keeping republicans in office vote their best interests, their lives will change for the better, as well as the lives of their children and grandchildren. Democratic politicians since Lyndon Johnson have fought a long, tough battle to improve the lives of every American, with the people that are now being hurt the most by Sequestration staunchly opposed to democrats.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Unfortunately. Democrats ONCE fought that battle for the safety nets, but now they are not.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I'm not sure yet with him. The American Care Act may or may not improve healthcare for ordinary Americans. It isn't fully implemented yet so it is hard to tell.
Obama is credited with saving the auto industry, but he did not save the union pay scale that kept Detroit above water for years. We have conservatives in charge in Michigan and they are making a mess.
I have trouble thinking of ways that Obama improved the lives of Americans. Maybe he avoided some of the worst effects of the recession, but frankly, I think in some ways, by cooperating with the Republicans rather than alerting Americans to what was going on, he made the situation worse.
Obama has been unwilling to admit to Americans just what greed there is on Wall Street and among the corporations.
I predict, based on my best guess, that he will approve the Keystone Pipeline and perhaps destroy some of the best farmland in the world all for the oil magnates. (No one else will profit from that.)
With Obama, I have good days and bad days. But as I look back, I've had more bad days.
Obama was definitely better than Bush and more honest than Romney. But he really has not accomplished much domestically.
We are entering another recession -- and that makes this a depression in my lay view. That's not much of a record.
We can and should blame the economy on Republicans. But Obama has been unwilling to speak really strongly against the Republicans. That is a huge error at this time. He should have learned long ago that they do not support ordinary Americans and that any compromise he makes with them will hurt too many people and be charged to Obama's own record.
So, partisanship gets criticized, but there is a time to stand for what is morally right, for social justice. And Obama has put bipartisanship over moral right and social justice. That is his big failing.
mrdmk
(2,943 posts)The U.S.A. has the largest economy in the world, yet we cannot feed our population!
We have leadership which is bent on divide and conquer.
We have a media (television, radio, newspapers) which cannot/will not inform the population.
We people and groups of people who amass great amounts of wealth who cannot pay taxes.
Now we have shit from hell to deal with...
pacalo
(24,721 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)then take their food away and make them cry as we throw it in the garbage. As a private food service company we are 'concerned' since the children could not pay for the meal. Now the state wants to cut welfare to poor families that have kids with low grades. See how well this works? We endorse profit over malnutrition.
We endorse profit over malnutrition.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I am fed up with pretending that seniors are not being harmed.
I am fed up with pretending this country is not destroying its public schools.
Sometimes it is time to face up to the reality and quit pretending all is well.
tblue
(16,350 posts)And thank goodness you tell it like it is. We all should.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)It's time for great concern.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)K&R for this OP.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I think our kids got a wake up call about what seniors are facing with all these cuts. Overcrowded hospitals even with caring nurses are now the thing. In Florida there are not enough rehab facilities to take care of all the seniors.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)It's actually way past time to be piss off at the screwing we are getting and get real about President Barack Obama's part in doing it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I have to know this first before I am going to feel sorry for them.
And they are not cuts that would affect poor seniors.
The real complainants are middle class seniors who have other pension/retirement funds.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)So glad you clued me in.
treestar
(82,383 posts)In fact if they voted Republican they are all for stopping the program. (For the rest of us, they have theirs).
Only poor old people deserve sympathy. Middle class and rich geezers are fine and perfectly willing to cut the social safety net for others. Especially if they are white and in red states.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)I would wish all those responsible for not taking care of the poor and elderly a quick and uneventful journey..
to hell.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)GW Bush years and has gotten worse after the Great Recession. My state has a working safety net for the elderly, that safety net worked even during the difficult years that my state went through to bring it's budget from an enormous deficit to a surplus. Our values were protected, students, the poor and our seniors were protected, that is how states that are run well handle their affairs.
airplaneman
(1,239 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)How can a politician wear a "I stopped Meals-on-Wheels!" button and think that's going to get him reelected? Who would vote for a politician who stopped or reduced funding for Meals on Wheels? Maybe a member of the 1% club, but hardly anyone else would. They need to be called "The Heartless Party."
I wonder how communities are getting ready for this? Meals on Wheels must go on, even if funding is cut. If you qualify for Meals on Wheels, you are needy and will probably go hungry without it. Hunger in the United States of America is disgusting to me. Can the Salvation Army fill the gap, maybe with The United Way?
mercymechap
(579 posts)that's going to get him re-elected? Easy, if he is from a Red state. Republicans think this will motivate those lazy elderly to get out and get a job, after all, they can always greet people at Wal-Mart and get customer their baskets.
intheflow
(28,443 posts)Instead, they'll say the other side wouldn't compromise, thus painting the opposite party the villain. They'll never admit their own complicity. And that's how they'll get re-elected.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Those who vote against Meals on Wheels should be out of a job and getting Meals on Wheels themselves.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)from the Chinese who revere their elders. Hunger and worry should NOT be options for seniors living in the US of A. Or for any other age group.
Driving around L.A., I have noticed people holding "NEED A JOB" signs in the past. But lately, it's been more "HUNGRY - NEED HELP" type messages. Yesterday took the cake. A husband, wife holding an infant and a 4 or 5 year old were standing at the exit to a shopping mall begging. Evicted, jobless and hungry. Egregious and outrageous.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Pretty sad when neither party is standing up for the elderly.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)What a tragedy that both parties have allowed this to happen.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/04/01/4742821/sequestration-may-mean-hard-times.html
"The 66-year-old who has congestive heart failure and an enlarged heart said he's able to stay in his own home - for now - with help from programs such as Meals on Wheels.
He greets volunteers who bring him prepared, healthy meals that include vegetables and fruits with a smile - and great appreciation.
"I don't want to be in a nursing home. I want to be in my own home and I want to live here as long as I can," said Neese, whose wife passed away in 2001. "Getting these meals means a lot to me.
....But this program both locally and nationwide will face tough financial times if, as expected, it becomes a victim of sequestration, the $1.2 trillion in automatic spending cuts triggered because leaders couldn't agree on a better way to cut federal spending."
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Florida has attracted all those seniors. It is now up to Florida to face their responsibilities.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Not even the Democratic administration. I believe many congressional Democrats care because they will not win this way in 2014.
It is local, but it is mostly a national issue of caring more about billionaires than the rest of us..
No more excuses.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)It's a national mindset by our politicians. Democrats should do better than that.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)FL, on the other hand, gets back $581 per capita more than it sends.
Screw the tax evaders living in Florida.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)You obviously have another agenda than I have.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And from Florida, we can say it was a lot of senior votes.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Thanks for clarifying my error.
treestar
(82,383 posts)How can you be so unreasonable?
Did they not vote Republican as a measured block, especially white ones?
If they are middle class and have other pensions who cares? If they don't, the proposal does not affect them.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I am seeing things as they really are.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Does this look like a caring face ...or scarey face?
LWolf
(46,179 posts)She is living on that edge and terrified. I'm trying to convince her to move in with me, but she is understandably resisting giving up her independence. The stress she is experiencing is affecting her health.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)There is a real terror. People are truly scared. to you and your mom.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)We have the same problems. I'm hanging on to my house by the hair on my chin.
Don't want to live with the kids and their kids. Want my own life but if SS is cut anymore I won't be able to maintain my independence. I'll have to hibernate in my room all day so I can watch political news instead of cartoons. I like my peace and quiet and I'm boss in my own house. I love visiting my kids and grand kids but I'm always happy to be home and I want to stay here. My kids can't seem to understand that. They act as if I'm being stubborn and unreasonable.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I'm 53. It looks like I'll house my mom, and then my kids will have to make room for me.
Mom has spent winters with me; she's about 1000 feet higher in elevation and her winters are harder. We do okay, each of us being careful to allow the other plenty of space. Neither one of us thinks giving up our peace and quiet is ideal. She's worked hard all of her life, and what has it come to? She's STILL working small jobs wherever she can find them.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)There is no excuse.
http://www.thealpenanews.com/page/content.detail/id/525053/Meals-on-Wheels-program-facing-financial-issues.html?nav=5004
"ALPENA -Sequestration is beginning to impact community services, as Republicans and Democrats remain divided over a solution to spending. On March 1, $85.4 billion in federal money was automatically cut from programs for fiscal year 2013, and some local agencies are scrambling to make up the difference.
At the Alpena Senior Citizen Center, Director Grace Marshall is in the middle of raising $10,000 to make up for what her board anticipates will be a 10.4 percent shortfall totalling the same amount.
"It's a horrific impact to the senior population," she said, referring to the budget sequestration. "In a metro area you might have several soup kitchens and services. What people don't understand is that in a rural area we're the only ones. We're it."
llmart
(15,533 posts)that most of the seniors in Alpena voted Republican. They'll find a way to rationalize voting Republican by buying into the meme that it's Obama's fault.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)That's amazing. If their area is like ours, there is no real media telling the truth about Obama or anything else. They have been lied to so often. Now that our president is pushing cuts to the safety nets....they will be confused even more.
Way to go to take the burden off our politicians and blame the seniors.
Way to go to protect Obama from any criticism.
llmart
(15,533 posts)and I live in a democracy. We all make choices and have to live with the consequences of those choices. In a democracy our vote is a choice we make. This part of Michigan is rife with teabaggers and they would NEVER vote for a democrat no matter who it was, so it's hard to feel sorry for the ones who refuse to educate themselves about what the consequences of their votes are. The ones I feel sorry for are those like me who make an educated choice of who I vote for and still get hurt by what's happening in Congress due to the Republicans who were put in office by the uneducated voters. I am not blaming all seniors.
mercymechap
(579 posts)Seems to me they are blaming Republican seniors - because Republicans seniors are uninformed and don't realize that some of the policies of their own party go against their well-being. I hope you're not one of them.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Of course I am. I have fooled everyone posting on this forum since 2002....they think I am Democrat. After all these years. What a surprise. I have been called everything except a Republican.
You said:
Seems to me they are blaming Republican seniors - because Republicans seniors are uninformed and don't realize that some of the policies of their own party go against their well-being. I hope you're not one of them.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)many of the seniors they serviced were barely functional and it was the only food they got to eat. They weren't capable of shopping and cooking. What will they do?
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)And the can't afford nursing homes and there is no room. It's a catastrophe!!!!!!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)RKP5637
(67,088 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)in St. Petersburg hosted by the SPSA. The yearly event takes all proceeds after expenses and donates it to Meals On Wheels. Maribeth Phillips accepted the funds in person this year. It brought tears to her eyes ...she was so thankful. As this years vice commodore of SPSA I will make sure we bring even more funds to the cause. One crew brought in a record $1500 in donations and won the prize for largest contribution. We had the award dinner at the SPYC which costs too much so next year I plan to arrange to have a more modest accommodation for the awards dinner so as to bring more funds to the cause. St. Pete is a major retirement area.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)"The yearly event takes all proceeds after expenses and donates it to Meals On Wheels. "
You are right about St. Pete being major retirement...all across the I-4 Corridor the seniors are huge in number.
Nice thing to do.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)spsa.us
treestar
(82,383 posts)Geez Louise. You do realize if there was a Democratic Congress this would not be happening?
fredamae
(4,458 posts)Or CPA, brought us this--inside the "Beltway" they call themselves Democrats and Republicans to throw Us off scent.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)This is shameful.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I guess not.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Looking at Washington and whats happening there, you came out saying that you think that the sequester wasnt necessarily a bad idea and perhaps the only way we can get some military cuts. Are you still feeling that way about things now that the sequester has gone into effect?
I am. I mean the House, of course, added some of it back, but I dont think the Senate will allow that to happen. Look, the military has gotten enormous. They dont ever cut it and they just keep adding to it. The Congress gives the military stuff the military doesnt even want. And it was never going to get cut by either the Democrats or the Republicans if they had to vote on the cuts. So, I see this as you know this is doing some damage to things that I care about and to some people that I care about, but the need to get the military cut is just overwhelming because nothings been done for 25, 30 years. So, I think that the military needs to be cut. A lot of the baggage that the Congress put in there needs to be taken out. They need to make some tough decisions between weapons systems instead of just getting everything and thats what the sequesters going to do.
So, again, its not ideal but, given that they dont have the guts to cut the military in Congress, this is the best way to get it done.
Whats your prediction about the sequesters impact on the economy and the middle class?
I think itll be fine. There will be some hardships for some individuals, theres no question about that, but I think that most of the economists predictions are going to be wrong.
If you were sitting in the White House right now and looking to make the Grand Bargain that everyone talks about, what would that look like to you?
Well, the Republicans are never going to do it. First of all, the Obama administration should have never left all of that revenue on the table for people earning under $400,000 a year. What I would do is I would close a bunch of corporate loopholes like get rid of the oil depletion allowance. And I do think you can reform Medicare without cutting benefits. What you need to do is have Medicare become a program where the providers are paid by the patient, not by the procedure. Because the whole system depends on what doctors do, which is ME, a doctor, and we get paid whether it works or not. Its a silly way to pay people.
http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/03/interview-gov-howard-dean-talks-about-gun-control-sequester-and-more.html
Boehner takes sequester victory lap
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022583419
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)He could have been a great progressive leader, but he chose not to be.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)Makes me pretty upset watching the commercials and advertising using senior citizens for the new Betty Crocker microwavable dinners. Delivered to your own home! They will even put it in your freezer! Only have to order a few days worth and if you drop dead and no one checks on you, like the meals on Wheels Program did, well you are just out of luck.
Not to mention that the meals are probably all GMO products to boot.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)PLEASE HELP: KIDS DYING FROM SEQUESTRATION
Maybe the word KIDS will get someone's attention?
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)It seems probable that this is the alternative - either give in to the Republicans and do some bad things, or don't and some other bad things will happen.
I don't know which is the lesser evil, but we should acknowledge that neither option is good.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Win-the-fight
(47 posts)n/t
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)or ANYONE, for that matter, who depends on government programs should be kicked in the ass for voting for repukes. They are getting EXACTLY what they voted for. It's time they learned that.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Blaming the victims for what politicians are doing to them.
That's shameful.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)in other places, but when my late MIL was getting them, she never ate them.
Her daughter was forever throwing them out when they piled up in Mom's fridge.
I got to see a bunch of them before they went into the trash.
Absolute garbage. I wouldn't feed that shit to a dog.
The only good thing that ever came of Meals on Wheels had nothing to do with the food.
One morning Mom fell in the kitchen (she was about 90) and broke her hip. She laid on the floor for hours, unable to reach the phone, waiting...waiting. The Meals on Wheels lady showed up at noontime and heard Mom calling for help from inside, went and got the key from the park manager, and called an ambulance.
Are seniors really scared of losing food that looks like it's been scraped up off the floor, or are they scared of losing other services?
That's the real question.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)You do a disfavor to be so critical.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)pointed out in my first sentence above, I don't know how they are in other areas, but they were shit here.
If they're good quality in your area, great.
But that doesn't mean they are everywhere, and a whole lot of seniors up here in my area wouldn't give a shit if they never got them. The only positive thing is the three times a week human contact.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)hay rick
(7,588 posts)An offense to one is an offense to all. We should be better than this.
Thanks for posting. Hope you and your husband are both doing better!
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)So thanks to those who did. It gives a wider audience and shows that others understand we must speak out.