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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLink to Robert Reich's petition to President Obama :
http://signon.org/sign/mr-president-please-do-1?source=mo&id=65506-15400088-o0C8v1x
Mr. President, Please do not cut Social Security!
By Robert Reich, former U.S. Secretary of Labor
To be delivered to: President Barack Obama
Petition Statement
Mr. President, the chained CPI is a cut to Social Security benefits that would hurt seniors--it's an idea not befitting a Democratic president. If you want to reform Social Security, make the wealthy pay their fair share by lifting the cap on income subject to Social Security taxes.
Petition Background
Social Security is not driving the deficit, therefore it should not be part of reforms aimed at cutting the deficit. The chained CPI, deceptively portrayed as a reasonable cost of living adjustment, is a cut to Social Security benefits that would hurt seniors.
There are several sensible reforms to Social Security that should be considered to help make it sustainable, including lifting the ceiling on income subject to Social Security from $113,700 to $200,000 or more, as well as instituting a 1% raise in the payroll tax rate, a rate that hasn't changed in over 20 years.
Both of these reforms would go a long way toward protecting the long-term health of Social Security, but neither should not be conflated with efforts to reduce the federal budget deficit.
President Obama needs to stand by his Democratic principles and fight to protect Social Security benefits.
There are currently 155,067 signatures
NEW goal - We need 175,000 signatures
Cleita
(75,480 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)"There are several sensible reforms to Social Security that should be considered to help make it sustainable, including lifting the ceiling on income subject to Social Security from $113,700 to $200,000 or more, as well as instituting a 1% raise in the payroll tax rate, a rate that hasn't changed in over 20 years."
...with lifting the cap, I'm not keen on raising the payroll tax rate. This is like trading one bad impact on low-income workers for another. I much rather Senator Harkin's proposal.
Strengthening Social Security
Social Security has proven to be an incredibly efficient means of delivering retirement security to millions of Americans. Therefore, one of the most effective ways to address the retirement crisis and reduce the retirement income deficit is to improve Social Security by enhancing benefits in a fiscally responsible way. The Rebuild America Act (the Act), introduced in March 2012, contains a comprehensive plan to improve Social Security.22 That plan would improve benefits to help reduce the retirement income deficit, ensure the cost of living adjustment (COLA) better corresponds to the typical expenses for seniors, and improve the long-term financial condition of the trust fund by gradually lifting the cap on wages subject to payroll taxes.
Improved Benefits
To improve benefits for current and future Social Security beneficiaries, the Act changes the method by which the Social Security Administration calculates Social Security benefits. Social Security benefits are based on a progressive formula that replaces a set percentage of income called a replacement factor at three different income levels. The replacement factor for a persons first $767 of Average Indexed Monthly Earnings (AIME) is 90%. The replacement factor drops to 32% for AIME between $767 and $4,624 and 15% for AIME between $4,624 and $8,532.
The Act improves Social Security benefits by expanding by 15% over a 10 year period the amount of earnings covered under the first replacement factor. In other words, it would increase the amount of AIME that receives the 90% replacement rate. That change will boost benefits for most beneficiaries by approximately $60 a month. Although the increase is modest, it will have an especially profound effect for those in the middle and at the bottom of the income distribution for whom Social Security has become an ever greater share of their retirement income.
Improved COLA
The Act changes the way the Social Security Administration calculates the COLA so that it more accurately reflects the change in seniors cost of living. Currently, the annual adjustment is tied to the Consumer Price Index for all Urban Wage Earners (CPI-W) for the purposes of calculating inflation. The CPI-W is based on a basket of goods that does not adequately track the purchases of seniors such as medical care. The Act moves from using the CPI-W to the Consumer Price Index for the Elderly (CPI-E), an index that is specifically tailored to more closely track costs for seniors. Making this change ensures that Social Security benefits keep pace with the rising costs of essential items for seniors, including health care.
Improved Financing
Social Security is not in crisis, but it does face a long-term deficit. According to the most recent Social Security Trustees report, the trust fund will be able to pay full benefits through 2033.23 In order to improve benefits and improve the solvency of the trust fund, the Act would phase out the cap on wages subject to the payroll tax, which is currently $110,100. In other words, income above $110,100 would be subject to the payroll tax, bringing more revenue into the Social Security system. The change would be phased in over a 10 year period to minimize the burden on employers and employees. Moreover, to ensure that people receive a benefit for every dollar they pay into the system, the Act creates a new replacement factor of 5% for income over the current wage cap. Together with the benefit increases in the Act, these steps will significantly extend the life of the Trust Fund.24
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http://www.harkin.senate.gov/documents/pdf/5011b69191eb4.pdf
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)hay rick
(7,590 posts)I'm surprised to see the 1% increase in payroll tax included in Rubin's plan. I don't see any reference to increasing the payroll tax at his web site- not that I read everything there.
Harkin's plan sounds better until you follow the link and read further, coming to this:
Sounds like a Pete Peterson plan in sheep's clothing.
"Harkin's plan sounds better until you follow the link and read further, coming to this...Sounds like a Pete Peterson plan in sheep's clothing."
...you are misreading the plan, which has two parts. The plan for Social Security (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2627578), which is excellent, has nothing to do with his pension proposal. He is talking about revitalizing pensions.
http://www.harkin.senate.gov/documents/pdf/5011b69191eb4.pdf
hay rick
(7,590 posts)As you noted, I mistook his pension revitalization plan for a Social Security privatization scheme. Harkin's plan sounds much better.
Very curious that Rubin's plan calls for a 1% payroll tax increase (don't know whether that is total or 1% from both employer and employee) while Harkin's plan makes no mention of raising the payroll tax and offers greater benefits- both by increasing AIME limits and using the more generous CPI-E. That's a substantial difference in the net benefit for a lot of people.
The other salient difference between the two plans is that Rubin would move the OASDI cut off to around $200,000 while Harkin's plan would gradually eliminate the cap entirely. I expect that increased income source accounts for the difference in net benefit. I like that plan better but I also believe it has less chance of being passed.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)bjobotts
(9,141 posts)There is overwhelming support behind making no cuts to SS or Medicare...overwhelming support in fact to strengthen these programs. Needed revenue can be obtained from a number of sources without breaking the backs of the elderly and the poor.
Obama must call republicans out when they completely ignore the $1.3 trillion in spending cuts he has already agreed to when these repubs say no new revenue...the majority of Americans completely agree with Obama in doing so. Why is he not listening...
Chained CPI, Keystone XL. Medicare cuts???wtf Mr. President...Listen to your supporters...they are all saying the same thing...Listen.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)He is a lame duck and apparently isnt willing to fight for the 99%.
dflprincess
(28,072 posts)I signed the petition but, like you, I don't think Obama will give a damn. Now that he's in his second term he doesn't need us anymore.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)want to hand us a candidate they can control.
gateley
(62,683 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)Volaris
(10,269 posts)think they will tell us to "shut up" again?
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)moondust
(19,963 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
SalviaBlue
(2,914 posts)SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)tclambert
(11,085 posts)Damn. I wish we had that lockbox for Social Security now.
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)Signed
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)Let's roll, DU!
pacalo
(24,721 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)NYFlip
(324 posts)Thanks for posting
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Denver Progressive
(120 posts)nilram
(2,886 posts)Tired of all the spam, no matter how well intentioned. But this is important.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)Paper Roses
(7,471 posts)efilon
(167 posts)I had so much "hope" when I donated and voted for this president. I have been sorely disappointed as have most of us who have a more progressive idea of where our country needs to go.
bluethruandthru
(3,918 posts)I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.
onestepforward
(3,691 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)lucca18
(1,241 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)I hope he listens to us.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)brett_jv
(1,245 posts)Thought "smh & ridiculous that we even have to be doing this", but ... done anyway.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Oh never mind, go sign it and feel all warm and fuzzy for a second, and then check back in to see that it changed nothing and was a waste of bandwidth.