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booley

(3,855 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 03:05 PM Apr 2013

Gun Control and voter fraud

It's occurred to me..

A lot of people on the right say we can't do anything to make getting a gun less convenient to obtain because it's a right. That these fire arms are the most often used weapon in homicides (especially mass homicides) is not relevant.

However it also seems many of these same people also want tougher laws to make voting (also a right) harder to do to stop voter fraud.

So just how many people a year are killed by voter fraud?

Yes i know, many here will say they oppose both. But many (the loudest if not the bulk) of those over all that oppose laws for the first clearly also want laws for the second.

(in short, if this doesn't apply to you, don't assume it can't apply in general)

Just a thought.

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UTUSN

(70,649 posts)
1. Wingnuts loves them their straw men
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 03:48 PM
Apr 2013

Last night George NOORY, the jerk who replaced Art BELL and pals with Jerome CORSI the author of the Swiftbots book trashing KERRY and many other nutcase scare tactics (North American Alliance), said in a non-discussion of guns that "When the citizenry is disarmed, only the bad guys will have guns." Uh, why are background checks and registration (like for drivers' licenses) and classifying weapons equated with "disarming the citizenry"?!1

Likewise, their harping on "voter fraud": There have been like, THREE (somebody here will correct the number) cases of it. Their tactic is nothing but SUPPRESSION of voters.

Wingnuts are a mixture of their unscrupulous leaders and simple-minded followers.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
3. As a general rule, obtaining a gun from an FFL is more difficult than voting
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 03:59 PM
Apr 2013

even with the new voter ID requirements.

booley

(3,855 posts)
4. Lets assume that's true. Apparently there are ways around that
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 04:12 PM
Apr 2013

I mean I kind of wish you had mentioned specific examples.

For instance one of the problems with the voter id laws is they require one to get documents one may not be able to get. ( a birth certificate for the elderly for example)

I don't know of a similar restriction/issue with obtaining a gun. Maybe there is and I am just unaware. But without specifics I can't make an argument for or against.

But I do know there are ways around purchasing a gun from an FFL (straw purchases, gifting, ect) and that would seem to make the claim less relevant.

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