Goddamnit! Social Security contributes not one red cent to the deficit!!!!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

So, why is Obama offering it as a compromise in the first place?

What the fuck is wrong with this president?

[Cleita]

1. Shout this out to the rafters, into the streets and everywhere.

We need a bumper sticker that says that!

[liberal_at_heart]

2. Thank you. Yes we definitely need to keep repeating this to anybody and everybody that will listen.

Not that the politicians will listen, but we still need to keep repeating it.

[SugarShack]

3. Maybe we should REFUSE to work for ANY DEMOCRATS until this is taken OFF THE TABLE!

No calls, no door knocking, no cash, no food, NOTHING! We can get this shit staying home.
Now I won't say I told you so, but if you want to do something about this...do NOTHING as the mid terms approach. And tell that Little Debbie Wasserman Shultz!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

7. With things like this, turnout is going to be very poor for the mid-terms.

Then they'll blame us leftists for not giving Obama what he needs to govern. I'm really starting to think that some right-wing man-behind-the-curtain is rubbing his palms together and laughing with his brilliant plan to foist a faux progressive on us.

[MrSlayer]

4. Yes. And they're going to eventually eliminate it anyway.

They don't care what the facts are and they don't care what we think.

What's wrong with the President? He's compromised, he's owned. How do you think he got the job?

The owners will never allow someone that is against their interests into office. If one does somehow manage get in they'll kill him either literally or figuratively through character assassination.

Why anyone thinks that elections matter is beyond me. It's corporate candidate a or corporate candidate b, with very little exception.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

5. “If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.” ~ Emma Goldman

Yeah, MrSlayer, this is a systemic problem.

[L0oniX]

6. It's the biggest lie since the wmd's of Iraq. n/t

[midnight]

8. “Social Security represents America at its best, and now it is up to you to defend it,"

“Social Security is not driving the deficit; therefore it should not be part of reforms aimed at cutting the deficit. The chained CPI, deceptively portrayed as a reasonable cost of living adjustment, is a cut to Social Security that would hurt seniors,” Mr. Reich says.

“There are several sensible reforms to Social Security that should be considered to help make it sustainable, including lifting the ceiling on income subject to Social Security from $113,700 to $200,000 or more, as well as instituting a 1 percent raise in the payroll tax rate, a rate that hasn't changed in over 20 years,” Reich adds.

Jim Dean, chairman of Democracy for America – and brother of former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean – called the news that Obama’s budget would include cuts to Social Security “a shot across the bow for the progressives who called their neighbors, spent weekends knocking doors, and donated millions to reelect him.”

An e-mail from Mr. Dean links to a petition aimed at Congress."


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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/0405/Liberals-to-Obama-not-so-fast-on-Social-Security-cuts

[lib2DaBone]

14. What is wrong with this president...?

.. The problem is......that he works for the very same Wall Street Banksters as the Repukes.

Both parties answer to the same master.

They want you to believe that there is a difference... because it buys the Banksters more time to cover their tracks.

[midnight]

26. Our President has described himself as Reagan Democrat and Reagan believed people needed

to pull themselves up by their own boot stapes.. I don't know of a Republican that would align themselves with a Dem...

[alarimer]

9. Because he's always wanted to

He's a Republican, not a progressive.

[blkmusclmachine]

10. Obama: "I agree with Romney. I agree with Romney. I agree with Romney. I agree with Romney."

Remember that "debate"?

[rhett o rick]

11. It's a bargaining chip. Doesnt have to affect the deficit. He knows it appeals to the rEpubs. nm

[Matariki]

12. Because it's a nice big tempting pot of money that already rich people want to get their hands on.

That's why.

[savannah43]

15. They already took between $1.7 and $2.7trillion. They do not want to pay it back.

And that's just the beginning of their plan to turn SS into a private profit making investment for themselves. They are counting on real people getting over anything given a bit of time.

[WillyT]

13. Good Question... K & R !!!

[Phlem]

16. He's a

moderate Republican in Democrat's clothing.

Party name means nothing anymore.

-p

[PatrynXX]

17. it's our money he wants to give away

If I had a savings account I wouldn't pull something like in Cyprus. But Obama wants to do it anyway.. X_X hopefully it's just a bluff. I don't believe North Korea is bluffing however.

[AverageJoe90]

20. There's no question in my mind that it IS a bluff, TBH.

The problem is, will it work? Or has the GOP managed to spring a trap for PBO to fall in?

[rainy]

21. This is what I think too

Republicans have already said they will not ever raise one more penny in taxes. Obama has always asked foe concessions from both sides and his side has always been to include revenue . He knows they can't do that because their teabilly base will stay home if they give in to new taxes.

[AverageJoe90]

28. Yeah, I agree. Let's hope it pays off.....n/t

[sulphurdunn]

18. Reduce SS benefits,

but not FICA taxes. Do it as the baby boomers retire. Follow the money if you can. Watch it change hands.

[840high]

19. We should mail this

op to the White House.

[ReRe]

22. I really don't know WHAT the President is doing...

...some say he's playing chess; some say he's a DINO, or worse he's a Republican; some say he's practicing bipartisanship ; some say he's kicking us in the gut like he did back in 2009. Maybe he was testing to see if anyone was listening, if anyone was awake.

He once said "TV loves a ruckus." But now it looks like he's the one that loves a ruckus.

[cstanleytech]

23. Of course it doesnt contribute to the deficit FA but

by making the overture to the republicans it paints them into another corner because when they reject it (as I suspect they will) Obama can honestly say he tried to reach a compromise but the republicans were the ones unwilling to deal.

[zeeland]

24. Bernie Sanders is making outstanding

points on Real Time with Bill Maher.Try and catch the video when it becomes available.

[TheMadMonk]

25. Of course it does. The perceived deficit in the pockets of a privileged few. /nt

[Heywood J]

27. Hmm...

[font size=+1]Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.[/font]