Fu*k PETA. Here's one good reason why:

[Earth_First]

FFS, if they put this much effort into their efforts as they do pissing people off, they might have something going for themselves...

[Union Scribe]

1. Where the hell did they even get those?

[Drale]

2. PETA is an extremest orginization on the verge of a terrorist group

they kill more animals every year than they help because they have this idea that all animals should be free and we should not even keep pets. That a animal is better off dead than being a pet.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/proof/

[Deep13]

6. yup. nt

[Archae]

14. I'd suggest finding a more credible source than corporate legal flack Rick Berman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Consumer_Freedom

PETA is a group of total idiots, who want to ban even having pets, and learned about nature watching Disney cartoons.

But a corporate whore like Rick Berman is no good source.

[yewberry]

15. Your source is a lobbying group for meat, fast food, alcohol & tobacco industries.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom

And you are completely wrong in stating that peta's position is that an 'animal is better off dead than being a pet.'

[OwnedByCats]

64. Sorry to disappoint, but they DO

believe that. Why do you think they have euthanized so many of the animals they had in their charge? If you listen to what Ingrid Newkirk says when she thinks the only people listening are her batshit crazy followers - it's a real eye opener.

I would NEVER criticize a legitimate animal rights organization because animals are my passion, but PETA doesn't give a shit about animals, they do just enough to make themselves look sincere, but for the most part, they are toxic.

And I'm sorry - but sex appeal and animal abuse should not be together in the same universe much less used together in their advertising. Most of their advertising offends the masses and when they pull shit like that in the OP, they look like a bunch of crack pots.

[yewberry]

67. You are mistaken.

Peta does not assert that animals are better off dead than being a companion animal. That is an outrageous misstatement.

[OwnedByCats]

69. Yeah me and a ton of other

people must be mistaken. Google is your friend, you'll find it there.

And btw when I say PETA, I'm talking about the founder, Ingrid Newkirk and her other bat shit crazy cohorts. I don't think all members of PETA think this way, some really do want to help animals.

[Kolesar]

19. Terrorist my ass. You're baiting forum. ... eom

[Capt. Obvious]

25. LOL! PETA a terrorist group?

Well, the government probably watches them.

[Archae]

26. While PETA isn't a terrorist group...

They do support terrorist groups like the "Animal Liberation Front."

[Capt. Obvious]

27. Animals call them freedom fighters

[Archae]

29. Animals call them lunch.

[Sharpie]

46. An arsonist is arsonist...

Look up Rodney Coronado...

[yewberry]

50. Oh, that makes sense.

I've given money to Sea Shepherd... I guess that makes me a pirate, huh?

[Sharpie]

51. No, that makes you bad with money...

[yewberry]

53. Wow, stellar defense of your nonsensical post.

[Sharpie]

54. Look...

PETA gave $25,000 to an animal rights arsonist...

Either you are ok with that, and in turn his activities, which include burning down research facilities or you aren't.

Not a lot of middle ground on that...

You want me to convince you that setting stuff on fire is bad or something? Either you already know it or you don't. That's your problem.

Fuck PETA and in particular fuck Newkirk...

There are legitimate animal rights issues that get pushed to the side because nutjobs like the folks at PETA do what they do.

[yewberry]

55. Well, avast, I *am* a pirate after all.

No, actually, I'm not a big fan of arson, and I question peta's decision to contribute to Coronado's defense fund. That said, it is intellectually dishonest to conflate peta and ALF or ELF.

Strongly-worded letters and walking around in the buff are certainly attention-getting maneuvers, but they are hardly terrorism.

[Sharpie]

56. Got it...

Someone who is a nice guy and only robs and rapes on the weekends can be overlooked.

[Apophis]

30. Horrible source.

It doesn't help your claims at all.

[upaloopa]

31. AKA breeders kill animals too

Are you down on the breeders too?

[OwnedByCats]

59. Broad brush much? n/t

[Codeine]

52. That's a fucking idiotic statement.

Drale Fail.

[OwnedByCats]

57. Holy shit, just when I did not

think they could get any lower

Some people are surprised to learn I hate PETA because I'm such a huge lover of animals. Well I'm sorry to say that they hurt the animal rights movement hugely with their idiotic bullshit. They make people like me look like whack jobs. They get millions in donations only to squander it on their extreme attention seeking rhetoric advertising (such as in the OP). As per the OP, if they spent as much effort on trying save and help animals as they do on their ridiculous propaganda, they could make a difference.

And apparently they euthanize most animals they rescue which makes them not a whole lot better than your city pound. I find it hard to believe that most of them needed it because of health or aggressive issues. They do honestly believe they are better off dead. They lie profusely and there is even some speculation they are connected to some environmental terrorism. I don't know if that's true, but they do cosy up with people who have committed those crimes at the very least.

I once heard a speech with the founder of PETA that would make your toes curl. She was calling for the liberation of all animals - including pets. Just set them all free because having pets is equivalent to having slaves.

Stay classy assholes

[ZombieHorde]

3. That is pretty funny. nt

[olddots]

4. this does no one any good

they have a point but you can't see it under the hat.

[richmwill]

5. Wow. How "classy"...

If I were in NYC today, I'd walk over to them as I chewed on a drumstick from KFC and ask them what the purpose of this is.

[Blue_Tires]

7. I used to volunteer at PETA

and I remember when they first did this maybe 5-6 years ago...

I made a point of telling some mid-level folks that I personally found it offensive, and something like this would hurt their message FAR more than it would ever help...If that photo is recent, it's clear absolutely no one was listening...

[Earth_First]

8. While I won't admit to this being a recent photograph, BT...

I just recently saw this, it evoked enough emotion that this needed to be (re)shared.

[Kolesar]

20. double talk

I'm being polite.

[OwnedByCats]

61. They didn't listen and they

won't because they are complete nutbags. I'm not talking about people who volunteer for them because most of those people don't realize what they are really like. The higher ups and Ingrid Newkirk are mad as hatters.

[Blue_Tires]

70. I'd gotten to know the organization and the people well

Over the years...Yeah, there were some fanatics and true believers, but 90 percent of them were sane, regular folks...

[OwnedByCats]

71. Yeah I agree

I've known a couple of people who worked with PETA and they were sane but they left the organization because of the rhetoric. Back in the early 90's I donated to them until I began to realize that I vehemently disagreed with Ingrid Newkirk and some of her associates on some of their views, and felt more and more embarrassed about their outrageous advertising that detracts from the real message. Then according to the State of Virginia they euthanize on average 90%+ of the animals they take in. They sound more like a slaughterhouse than a humane organization. Then came reports and a subsequent arrest and trial in the prosecution of a couple of their people throwing the remains in dumpsters like they were garbage. I also found out that they supported something that I really really don't like. Not going to go into detail so as not to cause yet another debate that tends to cause some very heated discussion.

I believe however that it's most likely just a few of them and the rest have their hearts in the right place. Don't get me wrong, I still agree with them on ending animal cruelty, lab testing animals not required by law, the fur trade, spaying and neutering pets so as not to contribute to the population problem, etc. and they have done some good things. I just can't support some of the other things they have said and done.

[upaloopa]

9. I agree with PETA there in that picture.

We have an AKA dog show in our town every year. I asked a couple of the people who show and breed there dogs what happens to the dogs that are not show quality and they told me " we have to put them down."
I've know horse breeders also and as soon as a horse costs them more than it earns they have to get rid of it somehow. Hopefully by selling it. We bought horses from them just to give them a home because they could not breed them and no longer wanted them. My wife and I have always adopted pets that somebody else no longer wants and some have been pure breads that the breeder would have "put down."
So my opinion about the AKA and breeders is that to them an animal is only worth the money it earns. I think animals have a right to a good life if it can be given contrary to AKA and breeders. We once got a little dog off the road where a breeder had just dumped her most likely because she could no longer produce pups.

[OwnedByCats]

66. While I agree that putting animals

down just because they are not show quality is wrong, but I'm not aware of it being a requirement by any show organizations (if I'm wrong then yes that's horrible). If a breeder does that of their own accord, then they are scum and have no business breeding. I know a lot of breeders and those animals that are not show/breed quality are sold as pets. That's why many times in a litter you sometimes see two or three different prices for different animals in that litter. Show quality price and/or breed quality price and pet quality price. Any breeder that euthanizes the "pet quality" ones makes no sense to me. They can still sell them for several hundred $ or even into 4 figures - that is still money which they would not have if they euthanized them. Not saying you weren't told that, it just sounds a bit daft to me.

The problem with the picture is it's never popular to equate something like that to do with animals to injustices against people, such as the holocaust, KKK, slavery, racism and other destructive bigotry but I get what you're saying.

[premium]

10. Much like the NRA,

PETA has evolved from a group that did good things to an extremist group.

[HERVEPA]

11. You are clueless in this regard

[premium]

13. Why?

Because you say so.
PETA has evolved into an extremist group in my opinion.

[undeterred]

12. What - no naked protest?

[Bay Boy]

18. They do those to...

...the "I'd rather go naked than wear fur" campaign.

[Iggo]

16. LOL

[HappyMe]

17. WTF?

Dumbasses.

[Warpy]

21. They've done great work exposing the horror of factory farming meat animals

and have even gotten improved conditions for a few of them, most notably laying hens.

Unfortunately, they've never chosen their other targets as well, assaulting silly rich women in fur coats with dye and trying to equate the AKC with the KKK here. They've also dabbled in trying to prevent medical trials on animals, doubly nuts since a lot of those trials turn up important veterinary medications that benefit animals, also.

Reining in the extremists with no sense should have been done years ago. We might not have those abominable factory pig farms now had they concentrated their resources there.

[EvilAL]

22. They like to shock with

racism and sex. Holocaust on your plate and Pamela Anderson Lee Rock naked on billboards.

[Skip Intro]

23. They do things like this to get headlines

bringing animal welfare issues to the forefront for a few

[Capt. Obvious]

24. LOL!!

That's funny

[Scootaloo]

28. Subtle and understated...

...By the standards of PETA, anyway

[Peregrine Took]

32. DEE-lighted that we just renewed our PETA membership.

Now I'm going to make a special donation to them, too!

Thanks for reminding me what a great organization they are!!

[Earth_First]

35. Fantastic!

By supporting this you have completeltly trivialized the harm the KKK has perpetrated.

You must be proud!

[Comrade Grumpy]

49. That's just stupid.

[OwnedByCats]

58. I hope you're not

serious ...

[byronius]

34. I have no problem with this. PETA's fine by me.

Dog-breeding is a disgusting, dark act. The PETA display is quite truthful and honest.

Glad someone's doing something.

[alphafemale]

36. They are much like the Westboro Baptist Church.

Pretty much in it just to revel in offending people.

Read a story recently that PETA ran a shelter with a 90% Kill Rate.

They have stated that people should not own pets.


They do not care about animals in any rational way except as a means of fleecing money from the gullible.

And I see that this thread seems to be swarmed with PETA baggers.

The overwhelming majority would not be OK with wearing a Klan robe like this.

Good luck.

[HERVEPA]

37. Dear Omegafemale

You are clueless on this subject.

[alphafemale]

41. Klan uniforms and otherwise pissing off 95% of America is a great way to bring about change.

Of course it is.

[Bake]

62. Perhaps you could enlighten us all by providing a clue?

I doubt it, though.

Bake

[Comrade_McKenzie]

38. Which reminds me... time to renew my People for the Eating of Tasty Animals membership. nt

[HERVEPA]

42. Why was I not shocked to see what your favorite group was.

[hack89]

43. I was expecting Cooking and Baking. I was wrong. nt

[CokeMachine]

48. Your point is?

Two posts in that group and that tells you something. What am I missing? Please do tell.

I'll save you the trouble of looking up my profile.

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[HERVEPA]

44. If you've decided to eat animal despite how they're treated that's one thing.

To brag and me smug about it is just ignorant.
This is unrelated to what one thinks of PETA's methods.

[Logical]

39. They make me want to eat meat. n-t

[alphafemale]

40. As long as money comes in from the gullible?

I truly don't believe they give a shit.

They are at best a punchline to a joke.

At worst they are destructive to a cause they..."supposedly" support.

[HERVEPA]

45. Well, that is totally illogical and ridiculous.

[CokeMachine]

47. Yum

Chicken last night, bacon and eggs this morning and a big porterhouse tonight. My whole day is looking good.

[DirkGently]

60. They'll never make whatever point they may have making dishonest comparisons like this.

[etherealtruth]

63. PETA has grown quite skilled at garnering attention for themselves ...

... for their purported cause, not so much.

[Apophis]

65. It's weird to see someone with the screen name "Earth_First"

with the thread title "Fuck PETA".

[justiceischeap]

68. Ironic, isn't it?

PETA may put on some really inane publicity stunts and they can be highly offensive but clearly many people in this thread have no clear idea just how much PETA really does do for animals. Yes, PETA is pro-euthanizing animals, because we have an animal over-population problem that the AKC perpetuates by continuing to breed dogs. People who complain about kill shelters should adopt some animals instead of purchasing AKC animals. And yes, PETA thinks it would be better if people didn't "own" companion animals (just much like they don't people should be "owned&quot but they know that isn't realistic so they prefer that people adopt from shelters and give those animals good homes.

I worked at PETA for 3 years and let me tell you folks something that you never stop to consider... people treat animals horribly. I saw it on a daily basis and because of the abuse I saw animals go through, I don't like people much any longer. It doesn't mean that I ever agreed with everything PETA proposed or how they went about some things but they do a lot for animals around the world, including being the punching bag from so many folks.