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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 05:05 AM Apr 2013

Chivalry is dead:Man jumps out of way, leaving girlfriend to be hit in face by baseball

A couple attending a baseball match learned a little about each other - perhaps a little bit too much about each other - after a home run ended up hitting a woman in the face.

That would be unfortunate enough. What made it worse was that the ball was about to hit her boyfriend until he dived out of the way to leave her in the firing line.

The pair were at the match between the St Louis Cardinals and the Arizona Diamondbacks - and the Cardinals' Peter Kozma was busy doing his job and hitting the ball out of the park.

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As the excitement died down and it emerged that the woman was not seriously hurt, the St Louis announcer Al Hrabosky summed things up: "Nice goin', boyfriend".

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/chivalry-dead-man-jumps-way-leaving-girlfriend-hit-122417024.html includes video.

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Chivalry is dead:Man jumps out of way, leaving girlfriend to be hit in face by baseball (Original Post) dipsydoodle Apr 2013 OP
This should be quite interesting. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #1
If I managed to catch a cricket ball dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #4
You know he has your ability? Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #6
20 yards I think dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #8
Let's get real now Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #48
He might have tried to catch it or push her out of the way malaise Apr 2013 #37
She might have tried to catch it or jump out of the way. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #66
Valid point malaise Apr 2013 #69
Christ! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #103
Excellent observation. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #104
Yeah, I don't know many men who wouldn't have instinctively reached out to protect her Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #91
Good on him for not being a sexist pig... octothorpe Apr 2013 #95
These days a lot of people at sports grounds are busy on their smart phones malaise Apr 2013 #109
Yes, he could have pushed her out of the way as well, smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #115
Oh, you're just being patriarchal! Bake Apr 2013 #122
LOL malaise Apr 2013 #123
You mean at the emergency room? Bake Apr 2013 #125
Bwaaaaaaaaaah hahahahah malaise Apr 2013 #127
Did he hold the door open to the emergency room for her? Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #39
At least he didn't perpetuate the patriarchy. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #2
You can't win. unreadierLizard Apr 2013 #5
I don't know about that. I think I would've instinctively pushed my companion out of the way... Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #97
Ha.... Sharpie Apr 2013 #17
BWAHAHAA! MinneapolisMatt Apr 2013 #76
I'm betting he also didn't get "in" that night, either.... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #144
stupid article JI7 Apr 2013 #3
too bad she wasnt present enough to move so the ball missed her...like he did nt msongs Apr 2013 #7
Are you saying she (female) was not as smart (present) as the guy? oldhippie Apr 2013 #49
I think that poster meant that she HappyMe Apr 2013 #51
The only thoughtless part of his action was to Arkansas Granny Apr 2013 #9
Exactly, looks like neither of them was paying attention and when something came flying at him . . . siligut Apr 2013 #62
How could she see it? He was blocking her view -- till he wasn't. pnwmom Apr 2013 #74
Totally Agree boguspotus Apr 2013 #108
Baseball game---not match. trumad Apr 2013 #10
+1000 blueamy66 Apr 2013 #18
maybe he was from one of the other hundred countries that DOES say "match?" Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #30
An American football game is called a game, not a match. blueamy66 Apr 2013 #41
But this isn't a US sportwriter who wrote the piece... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #44
okay...I won't argue anymore blueamy66 Apr 2013 #111
This is an interesting article... McDiggy Apr 2013 #11
actually this WAS treated as a joke and people laughed at it with the girl giving thumbs up JI7 Apr 2013 #13
He dove away from being hit, so what? MadrasT Apr 2013 #12
It's a slippery slope... Sharpie Apr 2013 #19
Then the woman is a wimp for not being smart enough to get out of the way. randome Apr 2013 #29
Pff Sharpie Apr 2013 #31
Did it ever occur to you that she could not see the ball coming since her boyfriend's head smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #86
I was using a fallacious argument to make the point that the man is no more to blame than the woman. randome Apr 2013 #93
OK. I have no problem with you. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #132
She ducked. Watch the video at :27 on. She saw the ball. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #119
How could she see it it if her boyfreinds fat head was blocking her way? smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #105
Slippery slope my ass. MadrasT Apr 2013 #33
Then the girl is an idiot for not moving out of the way. EOTE Apr 2013 #36
How could she could move out of the way if she didn't see it until her coward boyfrind smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #106
She could not be a blathering idiot. EOTE Apr 2013 #134
Please, grow up. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #135
Grow up? EOTE Apr 2013 #136
No, I don't. I find it quite charming actually. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #137
Ahhh, so polite in your world means calling a man a coward EOTE Apr 2013 #139
Again, please grow up. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #148
I see, your insults are mature, sophisticated insults. EOTE Apr 2013 #149
You seem to be the one determined to pick a fight over things that I have not said. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #152
Suggesting I'm 12 is not an insult? EOTE Apr 2013 #153
OK, I admit that the 12 comment was a bit rude. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #155
There's that hypocrisy again. EOTE Apr 2013 #162
No it's not. It's the bottom of the slope. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #43
Then I'll choose chivalry... Sharpie Apr 2013 #47
Okay, I'll play along. What inherent difference requires him to take the injury? nt lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #56
his penis dontyaknow galileoreloaded Apr 2013 #79
Take the injury, hell! He should've caught the damn thing barehanded! Bake Apr 2013 #124
Do you understand instinct? MattBaggins Apr 2013 #83
It's a high angle baseball that can be caught with bare hands... Sharpie Apr 2013 #85
Then why didn't she catch it with her bare hands? EOTE Apr 2013 #140
Maybe she should look for a husband... Sharpie Apr 2013 #150
I'll take scared over stupid any day. EOTE Apr 2013 #151
Yep. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #157
I guess they were both saved. HappyMe Apr 2013 #14
That's the way I see it, too. nt oldhippie Apr 2013 #50
This story is crap lunatica Apr 2013 #15
Malevolent feminist? morningfog Apr 2013 #16
Forget the chivalry--who dodges a home run ball? ny geek tragedy Apr 2013 #20
^^^^^^ This guy gets it.... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #34
FUCKING EXACTLY!!!! I'm mystified by the responses alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #40
Isn't it hard to catch a home run ball with bare hands? It looks kinda hard. DanTex Apr 2013 #54
No alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #55
I can't understand people who can't understand instinct MattBaggins Apr 2013 #84
Sure, but when you're attending a baseball game in a location whose prime benefit geek tragedy Apr 2013 #129
DUzy! Scout Apr 2013 #90
My thought exactly. nt mattclearing Apr 2013 #121
somebody who isn't very "manly" snooper2 Apr 2013 #126
Typical asshole Cardinals fan. TheMightyFavog Apr 2013 #21
Unfortunately, for my state anyway, it was probably an Arizona fan... egduj Apr 2013 #25
I think the real crime here is he didn't bring his mit to the game. Javaman Apr 2013 #22
Almost everyone stops bringing gloves to the ballpark when they get to, say Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #32
Excuse me? UncleYoder Apr 2013 #58
+1 nt Javaman Apr 2013 #60
So you catch line drives with your bare hand? Javaman Apr 2013 #61
Given the Penguins avatar, I think we can assume he/she is a Pirates fan. JVS Apr 2013 #112
lol nt Javaman Apr 2013 #131
I'm actually a Mets fan Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #142
What would watching the Pirates ever teach you about "hot ones" JVS Apr 2013 #113
Bullshit! Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #143
Should he have worn his jersey too? AngryAmish Apr 2013 #64
Sure why not? Javaman Apr 2013 #71
I've never been to a Dodger game without my glove. n/t cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #116
My memory may be fuzzy - but didn't this also happen at another game a year or two back? Mike Daniels Apr 2013 #23
you may be thinking about the player that swung a chair at the assholes heckling him.. frylock Apr 2013 #70
She should have ducked too! Marrah_G Apr 2013 #24
He was out of his seat AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #26
C'mon man! Who goes to a game and doesn't try and catch the home run ball? brewens Apr 2013 #27
Had she been paying attention, she could have caught the ball. HappyMe Apr 2013 #35
I used to clown around in practice playing outfield and use my hat sometimes. brewens Apr 2013 #88
Still better than the guy in the Colorado exboyfil Apr 2013 #28
Pulled a George Costanza. RiffRandell Apr 2013 #38
LOL... onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #78
If it was his job to take the beaning, she should have paid for his ticket to the game. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #42
You are an obvious woman hater. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #102
No, just the ones who would get mad at me for a basball that someone else hit. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #117
She probably told all her friends she got hit by a field goal. hahahahaha cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #45
She'd probably fallen asleep. randome Apr 2013 #46
baseball match? liberal N proud Apr 2013 #52
it's anarchy in the UK hfojvt Apr 2013 #59
Boot instead of a trunk - I get it liberal N proud Apr 2013 #63
Much ado about nothing. PotatoChip Apr 2013 #53
What's with that guy? Spirochete Apr 2013 #57
Chivalry never existed. It is a myth, like the Easter Bunny. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #65
At least he can't be accused of benevolent sexism n/t Catherina Apr 2013 #67
Yep. He was accused of NOT practicing benevolent sexism by men. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #161
couple of things. first off it's a GAME, not a MATCH.. frylock Apr 2013 #68
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #72
It would seem, not all Prince Charmings are heroes. n/t Cleita Apr 2013 #73
And vice-versa! randome Apr 2013 #80
this had nothing to do with heroics JI7 Apr 2013 #82
She should be glad he respected her enough to not expose her to benevolent sexism. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #75
What a dick! I mean-- that's more like it! I mean--! Marr Apr 2013 #77
Hmmm, interesting treestar Apr 2013 #81
Chivalry is sexist bullshit alarimer Apr 2013 #87
this is true. Scout Apr 2013 #92
I really doubt that he was thinking that if he jumps out, it hits her in the face. LisaL Apr 2013 #89
No, he should have borrowed a protractor and a compass... randome Apr 2013 #96
Exactly. Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #98
I have just 2 fears in life. Public speaking and... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #94
Same here! Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #146
Heights, too! And a Giants fan! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #154
"There is no crying in Baseball" Munificence Apr 2013 #99
Just an instinctive reaction, imo. polly7 Apr 2013 #100
Is this what a baseball match is? Bay Boy Apr 2013 #101
Don't know about anyone else, but if i'm sitting by the wall, i'm taking my glove... Rhythm Apr 2013 #107
on occasion i get to go with a friend who has really really good season tickets dembotoz Apr 2013 #110
My grandmother was over 50 when she went to her first baseball game. JVS Apr 2013 #114
Oh my treestar Apr 2013 #133
The whole story is idiotic. She DUCKED as he was moving out of the way. Watch from :27 on. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #118
Once and for all, do feminists want chivalry or don't they? TimberValley Apr 2013 #120
Was this story reported by feminists? Are feminists on her condemning his actions? Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #156
Good for him. He avoided being benignly sexist. Ian David Apr 2013 #128
Some guy makes a sexist comment boston bean Apr 2013 #130
Crazy, huh? He was publicly shamed by another man. He is further shamed Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #158
I guess I have the worst eyesight here. Because I can't tell whether he dodged the ball or not. ieoeja Apr 2013 #138
::grumble grumble Cards grumble grumble:: Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #141
It isn't his fault his girlfriend got hit by the ball gollygee Apr 2013 #145
I agree. But apparently, there are a bunch of men who are all up in arms about this. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #159
ouch Liberal_in_LA Apr 2013 #147
Too bad so many men feel the need to condemn this guy. Publicly shamed at the event... Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #160

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. If I managed to catch a cricket ball
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 05:14 AM
Apr 2013

coming at my face full force from 22 yards away the least he could've done was try to catch it..

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
6. You know he has your ability?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 05:23 AM
Apr 2013

What is the volocity of a cricket ball from 22 yards and a baseball from...do you know the distance? Would it make a difference if the ball had hit his buddy's face?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
48. Let's get real now
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:49 AM
Apr 2013

this was a home run ball...there's not a lot of energy left in the ball at the 'end' of its flight...I've NEVER seen someone FLEE from a home run, and even if the dude had no athletic inclination whatsoever, he could have at least blocked/deflected/covered his girlfriend...

You're making it sound like he was sitting on the 3rd base foul line and a line-drive screamer came his way (and guess what, baseball fans still one-hand those all the time)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
91. Yeah, I don't know many men who wouldn't have instinctively reached out to protect her
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:32 PM
Apr 2013

even if just pushing her out of the way.

OTOH, why wasn't she facing forward, so she would see balls coming her way? Odd.

malaise

(268,717 posts)
109. These days a lot of people at sports grounds are busy on their smart phones
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 09:31 AM
Apr 2013

The phones appear to be smarter than the peeps at the grounds.
My father taught us early on cricket grounds- watch the ball.
A friend told me that he saw an Ipad shattered at a cricket ground and only when it was hit did the user look up

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
115. Yes, he could have pushed her out of the way as well,
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 08:20 PM
Apr 2013

Or have taken her down with him. What a coward! She could not have seen what was coming if he was in her way.

 

unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
5. You can't win.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 05:17 AM
Apr 2013

If you do something nice, it's sexism.

If you don't do anything at all, it's sexism.

Honestly, who cares? Human beings are driven by self-interest. I'm sure this couple honestly has better things to do then argue about the fact he didn't take a baseball to the face for her.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
97. I don't know about that. I think I would've instinctively pushed my companion out of the way...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:01 PM
Apr 2013

going by the way I've reacted instinctively in the past to things, though not exactly that. I think men have more that sort of instinct than women.

Remember the guy in the theater when that loony bird shot and killed so many people? The guy was holding his gf's baby, but when the shooting started, he instinctively dropped her or put her down & ran out to save himself, leaving the crying baby on the floor to be shot or trampled on. The baby ended up being okay (someone else picked him up and ran out of the theatre with the baby). I KNOW I wouldn't do that. My instinct would be to get an infant out...then for myself. I think most people, esp women, would instinctively react that way.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
49. Are you saying she (female) was not as smart (present) as the guy?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:53 AM
Apr 2013

That's not going to go over well.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
51. I think that poster meant that she
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apr 2013

wasn't paying attention to what was going on around her.

I'm amazed that people in this thread are picking on that guy because he didn't catch the ball. She should have caught it.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
9. The only thoughtless part of his action was to
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 05:47 AM
Apr 2013

instinctively move out of the way of an object hurtling toward his head. It's too bad his girlfriend didn't move quickly enough, as well.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
62. Exactly, looks like neither of them was paying attention and when something came flying at him . . .
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:31 PM
Apr 2013

He moved. It was instinct. He then immediately went back to check on her. Announcer was wrong to call him out. He did what anyone would do.

boguspotus

(286 posts)
108. Totally Agree
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:28 AM
Apr 2013

Jeez, give people a break, he moved out of instinct. He was right there when the baseball hit her. I don't think he's an evil, coward, sexist scumbag.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
18. +1000
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:51 AM
Apr 2013

I use to work with a guy who called football games "matches". I wanted to smack him silly.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
41. An American football game is called a game, not a match.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:19 AM
Apr 2013

Use the correct terminology.

No self-respecting US sports writer would ever call a football, basketball or baseball game a "match".

He also called the Carolina Panthers the Carol-een-a Panthers.



Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
44. But this isn't a US sportwriter who wrote the piece...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:39 AM
Apr 2013

They have their "correct terminology" in the UK, too and there they say "match", even when reporting on American sports...

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
111. okay...I won't argue anymore
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:15 AM
Apr 2013

bottom line....Americans call it a football game...so, if you're speaking of an American football game, call it as such...if you're speaking of a cricket game, call it a match....done and out

McDiggy

(150 posts)
11. This is an interesting article...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 06:04 AM
Apr 2013

...and another example of female privi...er, I mean benevolent sexism (sorry, forgot that I have to use the proper euphemisms here). This dude is expected to risk his own body to save a woman from potential physical harm. Reverse the sexes and its not even a story. Actually, people would probably laugh at it. When people wonder why in the world MRAs exist, its stuff like this. It perpetuates the societal expectation of male disposability for the sake of women. Men are expected to relieve themselves of patriarchal benefits, but hold on to patriarchal responsibilities. This is a perfect example of such. "How dare you protect yourself by jumping out of the way of a baseball traveling 150MPH. There is a WOMAN behind you!"

In a true egalitarian society, this "man must protect woman" thing wouldn't exist. The US still has a long way to go. If you care about womens' rights, this is the stuff you need to fight against, too. Because otherwise, many men will never get on board if they see nothing but less benefits, yet still heightened responsibility out of it. Less benefits, but less responsibility, especially via-a-vis the sacrifice of ones physical well being...that flies much better.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
12. He dove away from being hit, so what?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 06:24 AM
Apr 2013

I would have too. It is unfortunate the woman was hit but it isn't his fault.

The idea he somehow dissed his girlfriend is ridiculous.

Fuck chivalry.

 

Sharpie

(64 posts)
19. It's a slippery slope...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:51 AM
Apr 2013

Sorry about those robbers honey but you're on your own...

The guy is a wimp and deserves every bit of mocking that he gets.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. Then the woman is a wimp for not being smart enough to get out of the way.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:49 AM
Apr 2013

And for not trying to 'save her man'.

Silly girls.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
86. Did it ever occur to you that she could not see the ball coming since her boyfriend's head
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:13 PM
Apr 2013

was in the way? Perhaps she was not stupid, she was just taken off guard.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
93. I was using a fallacious argument to make the point that the man is no more to blame than the woman.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:36 PM
Apr 2013

I agree with you.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
132. OK. I have no problem with you.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:55 AM
Apr 2013

It just seem like a lot of people here are ganging up against the girlfriend and I think that seems unfair.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
36. Then the girl is an idiot for not moving out of the way.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:59 AM
Apr 2013

What the hell was she thinking? At least the man had a lick of sense. Maybe next time a ball is hurtling at her face, she won't be so stupid.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
106. How could she could move out of the way if she didn't see it until her coward boyfrind
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:11 AM
Apr 2013

didn't duck out of the way?

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
134. She could not be a blathering idiot.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:35 AM
Apr 2013

I assume the girlfriend has eyes and ears and could see the trajectory of the ball. Or is she just a poor widdle womyn who must rely on her protector boyfriend to keep her safe? And I'm just going to take a guess that you're one of those who gets all up in arms regarding tripe such as "benevolent sexism". Don't worry, I'm sure there will be a big burly man to protect you from yourself any minute now.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
136. Grow up?
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:58 PM
Apr 2013

This from the person who insists a man needs to risk his own health because his girlfriend is too stupid to protect her own? I'm going to take a wild guess here and assume you also get offended when men hold doors open for you.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
137. No, I don't. I find it quite charming actually.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:42 PM
Apr 2013

I just think that men should be polite to women, and vice versa.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
139. Ahhh, so polite in your world means calling a man a coward
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:53 PM
Apr 2013

for having the nerve to not want to get injured. And then calling another man a child for having the audacity to point that out. You may consider that polite behavior, but most people would consider that the behavior of a sexist ass.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
149. I see, your insults are mature, sophisticated insults.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:20 PM
Apr 2013

While mine are juvenile, patriarchal insults.

I would find your hypocrisy hilarious if I weren't so damned accustomed to it in threads like these.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
152. You seem to be the one determined to pick a fight over things that I have not said.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:46 PM
Apr 2013

I am not hurling insults. Please read my comments and understand that I am not insulting you. I am just asking you to back off on your juvenile behavior.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
153. Suggesting I'm 12 is not an insult?
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:53 PM
Apr 2013

And suggesting that a man is a coward for having a sense of self preservation isn't an insult to all men?

It's incredibly hypocritical for you to suggest that my behavior is juvenile with the infantile behavior you're engaging in. Don't worry, there are plenty of misandrists for you to pal around with here, just don't expect everyone to swallow your tripe whole.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
155. OK, I admit that the 12 comment was a bit rude.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:44 PM
Apr 2013

Sorry about that. But you seem quite bitter towards women. I would suggest that you tone it down a bit. You really do come on quite harsh.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
162. There's that hypocrisy again.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:00 AM
Apr 2013

I'm quite bitter towards women? Funny you don't think calling a man a coward and a wimp for having the nerve to not get his face smashed in by a ball is being bitter toward them. I have no qualms with the woman being too slow and inattentive to move away from the ball. But to slam the man for having common sense is just the most insidious form of sexism. I would suggest that you tone it down a bit.

 

Sharpie

(64 posts)
47. Then I'll choose chivalry...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:43 AM
Apr 2013

There are differences between the genders and to pretend otherwise is silly...

Bake

(21,977 posts)
124. Take the injury, hell! He should've caught the damn thing barehanded!
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 09:43 PM
Apr 2013

And taken the ball home as a souvenir! That's what any self-respecting baseball fan would have done!

Bake

 

Sharpie

(64 posts)
85. It's a high angle baseball that can be caught with bare hands...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 06:20 PM
Apr 2013

... and not a grenade.

Everyone has fight or flight response but he lacks the ability to control his and his gf paid the price.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
140. Then why didn't she catch it with her bare hands?
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:58 PM
Apr 2013

I guess she both lacked the skills to avoid the ball or to catch it. At least her boyfriend had the good sense to move out of the way. Maybe he should be looking for a girlfriend who doesn't have the reflexes of a sloth.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
151. I'll take scared over stupid any day.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:34 PM
Apr 2013

The husband may have been scared that he was going to get clocked by a baseball, but at least he had the good sense to move out of the way. Trust me, it's absolutely no fun living with a stupid person.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
14. I guess they were both saved.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 07:30 AM
Apr 2013

He was saved from being called a sexist, and she was saved from benevolent sexism.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
40. FUCKING EXACTLY!!!! I'm mystified by the responses
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:30 AM
Apr 2013

Who doesn't try to catch the home run ball? Who jumps out of the way of a home run ball? My seven year old daughter would try to catch that ball (I know, because she's done it before in Wrigley). I'm simply amazed by his reaction, and by the comments on this thread. This wasn't a hard hit foul ball zooming at somebody behind the first base dugout, fer chrissakes. It was a looping home run ball to deep center. I'm trying to imagine the mentality of somebody who knows and cares enough about baseball to go to a game and get those seats, but doesn't try to catch the ball - indeed, jumps away from it. I can't put all those things together. This is one of the weirdest videos I've ever seen. He jumps out of the way of a home run ball? Whaaaaat?!?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
54. Isn't it hard to catch a home run ball with bare hands? It looks kinda hard.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:04 PM
Apr 2013

I don't know much about baseball.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
129. Sure, but when you're attending a baseball game in a location whose prime benefit
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:13 AM
Apr 2013

is the possibility of catching a home run ball . . .

egduj

(805 posts)
25. Unfortunately, for my state anyway, it was probably an Arizona fan...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:30 AM
Apr 2013

considering that's where they were playing.

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
22. I think the real crime here is he didn't bring his mit to the game.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:02 AM
Apr 2013

that's the real failure.

He had a golden opportunity to catch the ball!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
32. Almost everyone stops bringing gloves to the ballpark when they get to, say
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:53 AM
Apr 2013

around 13-14 years old?

Real MEN can handle the hot ones...

 

UncleYoder

(233 posts)
58. Excuse me?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:17 PM
Apr 2013

I take my kids (grandkids now) to the game. We like to sit along the first base line. I sit in the seat closest to home plate WITH MY GLOVE ON. There is no way I'm letting a line drive foul hit one of them.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
112. Given the Penguins avatar, I think we can assume he/she is a Pirates fan.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:35 AM
Apr 2013

So assuming anything but the faintest familiarity with a well-hit ball would probably be a mistake. The balls are slow and soft by the time they reach the crowd at PNC park.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
113. What would watching the Pirates ever teach you about "hot ones"
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:38 AM
Apr 2013


I used to take my glove to three rivers until I was about 12. Then the team became horrendous and I can't imagine needing the glove.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
143. Bullshit!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:04 PM
Apr 2013

I sitll bring mine to hide under!!

I do. If a ball is coming my way, the glove goes in front of my face.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
70. you may be thinking about the player that swung a chair at the assholes heckling him..
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:17 PM
Apr 2013

the man ducked and the chair hit his loudmouth wife.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
26. He was out of his seat
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:33 AM
Apr 2013

and in the aisle before that ball came. He could have told her to look out.. If I was her, I would be attending future ball games with my girl friends.. seriously!

brewens

(13,542 posts)
27. C'mon man! Who goes to a game and doesn't try and catch the home run ball?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:40 AM
Apr 2013

If nothing else, you're wearing a hat and prepared to use that. Most ten year old kids would have made the play. What a wuss!

brewens

(13,542 posts)
88. I used to clown around in practice playing outfield and use my hat sometimes.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:26 PM
Apr 2013

I saw Willie Mays or someone do it in warmups or spring training once. Camp under the ball and instead of the usual Willie Mays basket catch, whip the hat off and use the hat!

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
28. Still better than the guy in the Colorado
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:47 AM
Apr 2013

movie theater shooting who not only left his baby, his girlfriend, and the girlfriend's young child. He then proceeded to hop in his car and drive away. A good samaritan a few years younger than the girlfriend helped her and the kids out of the theater. She later accepted her boyfriend's proposal of marriage. I though she would do a lot better with the good smaritan (or almost anyone else in my opinion).

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
42. If it was his job to take the beaning, she should have paid for his ticket to the game.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:30 AM
Apr 2013

In the real world, bodyguards are paid for their services.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
102. You are an obvious woman hater.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:05 AM
Apr 2013

He could have taken his girlfreind down with him - that was the the sensible option.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
45. She probably told all her friends she got hit by a field goal. hahahahaha
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:40 AM
Apr 2013

She should have moved out of the way like her boyfriend did.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
46. She'd probably fallen asleep.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:42 AM
Apr 2013

You know how sermons are. And since some think of baseball as akin to worship, well...

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
59. it's anarchy in the UK
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:19 PM
Apr 2013

where they think games are matches, perhaps played with aluminium bats on a shedyool, instead of being a good old American game using aluminum and following a skedyull (schedule) and where people goto the bathroom instead of the lavatory.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
53. Much ado about nothing.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:04 PM
Apr 2013

She appears to be fine, even giving the thumbs-up at the end of the slow-mo video.

Neither does she, or anyone else (other than the announcer) appear to blame him. It was just one of those 'wrong place at the wrong time moments'.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
57. What's with that guy?
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:16 PM
Apr 2013

First fan i've ever heard of that wouldn't risk falling out of the bleachers going after a home run ball. They dogpile on each other trying to catch those things, usually.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
161. Yep. He was accused of NOT practicing benevolent sexism by men.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 11:28 PM
Apr 2013

It's the traditionalist's problem. It is the traditionalist's problem at the event and in the press. They are the ones who are enforcing the notion that he needed to take the hit. I've not seen one feminist make that argument.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
68. couple of things. first off it's a GAME, not a MATCH..
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:00 PM
Apr 2013

secondly, what kind of weenie gets out the way of an homerun ball rather than trying to catch it?!

Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
75. She should be glad he respected her enough to not expose her to benevolent sexism.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 04:57 PM
Apr 2013

After all, if he had protected her from the ball it would have been demeaning to her as a person. It would have been coddling and sending the message that she is inferior and can't catch or avoid a batted ball on her own.

This guy is a model for all men.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
77. What a dick! I mean-- that's more like it! I mean--!
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 05:05 PM
Apr 2013

Pussy! Wait, no-- I mean--

AUUGHH...

/shortout

treestar

(82,383 posts)
81. Hmmm, interesting
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 05:21 PM
Apr 2013

But it was probably just instinct. All sexes need to dive out of the way of a coming baseball. I doubt he had time to think about it. This is an attempt to stir it up on the battle of the sexes.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
87. Chivalry is sexist bullshit
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 08:16 PM
Apr 2013

He maybe should have pushed her out of the way too, but not taken the ball to the face or wherever just to protect the "little woman."

Scout

(8,624 posts)
92. this is true.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:34 PM
Apr 2013

we should all just be polite to everyone and forget which sex is supposed to do what special thing for which one or not for the other.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
89. I really doubt that he was thinking that if he jumps out, it hits her in the face.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:28 PM
Apr 2013

Jumping out of the way is instinctive.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
96. No, he should have borrowed a protractor and a compass...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:47 PM
Apr 2013

...and figured out the angle and trajectory and then he could have warned anyone who might be within its path!

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
98. Exactly.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:13 PM
Apr 2013

When I'm in the ball park and the ball is coming my way I duck. If I were near a child I'd be inclined to make sure the child wasn't in danger but honestly I doubt that I'd worry about the adults around me.

I saw a guy get beaned by a foul ball. It wasn't pretty.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
94. I have just 2 fears in life. Public speaking and...
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:42 PM
Apr 2013

Baseballs. I've been to a lot of baseball games and have seen a lot of balls hit right at me. Not once have I stuck out my hand. Rather, I look for cover. I know it looks different on TV, but that's really deceiving. Balls never land where you think. You stick out your hand to catch it and it sails 10 rows past you. I'm not sure what I would have done. I'm afraid of the ball so I'm getting away. Then there's a split second between when you realize where it's going to hit--near you or 10 rows past--and where it will hit.

A hard ball hit with that force hurts. I don't care what it looks like on TV. I was play tennis today. It was cold. My partner hit the ball long and I caught it. It stung. A tennis ball!

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
146. Same here!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:09 PM
Apr 2013

Those are my two fears too. Well, and heights. And bridges. And wasps. Hmmm now that I'm thinking of it, there are more...

Oh well.

But I bring my glove anyway to protect myself.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
154. Heights, too! And a Giants fan!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:46 PM
Apr 2013

Grew up in the Bay Area and spent many a cold summer's night at The Stick. Croix de Candlestick ring a bell?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
100. Just an instinctive reaction, imo.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:17 PM
Apr 2013

I got hit in the cheek by a slap-shot before we had plexi-glass around the sides of our rink ... my brother was standing right in front of me. He still apologizes to this day, but he didn't even have time to think of anything but 'DUCK'.

Rhythm

(5,435 posts)
107. Don't know about anyone else, but if i'm sitting by the wall, i'm taking my glove...
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:21 AM
Apr 2013

I'm sorry this gal got hit... and that the boyfriend apparently didn't warn her (if he saw the ball coming and she didn't)...

But it's a baseball game, and you are sitting right at the fence...
Why the hell are you NOT paying attention to where the ball is?!?!

~~~~~

Same goes for anyone watching a hockey game, and sitting anywhere that a puck might leave the ice and hit you...

I saved a guy's teeth once at a minor-league game...
Our seats were behind the net and just above the glass, and a stranger in the next seat didn't see the errant slap-shot coming. I was a rec-league goalie, and had my glove with me, so i snagged it a few inches from his face.
I still have that puck...

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
110. on occasion i get to go with a friend who has really really good season tickets
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:05 AM
Apr 2013

my eyesight and reflexes are not so hot

I hope she pushes me out of the way to catch the damn thing

JVS

(61,935 posts)
114. My grandmother was over 50 when she went to her first baseball game.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:48 AM
Apr 2013

She grew up following the Tigers during the Ty Cobb era. But at the time the ballpark was not considered a place for women and children. It would be like taking the family to the dog track today.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
133. Oh my
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:56 AM
Apr 2013

Never thought of that. My grandfather recalled having to wait for the train to bring the newspapers in order to find out the Phillies' scores. Later he took boats from Delaware to Philadelphia and walked to the field from the port to attend the games!

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
118. The whole story is idiotic. She DUCKED as he was moving out of the way. Watch from :27 on.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 08:39 PM
Apr 2013

It's not like they didn't show it at least THREE different times from TWO different angles.

She fucking ducked. Her bad fortune to have not ducked in the right direction.

Pure idiocy and useless controversy over something that happens countless times: Someone ducking but moving the wrong way and getting hit by something.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
156. Was this story reported by feminists? Are feminists on her condemning his actions?
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 11:10 PM
Apr 2013

Quite clearly, the announcer who publicly denounced him is a man but, at this time, I haven't a clue whether or not he is a feminist. Do you?

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
158. Crazy, huh? He was publicly shamed by another man. He is further shamed
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 11:19 PM
Apr 2013

in the sports pages for doing something that I have not seen ONE feminist criticize him.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
138. I guess I have the worst eyesight here. Because I can't tell whether he dodged the ball or not.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:52 PM
Apr 2013

I see him jump away about the same time the ball hits. But I can't tell if he jumped before or after it hit.

The only odd thing I see is that he then rushes to her side instead of running after the ball like most people do. What kind of person worries more about their possibly injured friend?

Weirdo.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
141. ::grumble grumble Cards grumble grumble::
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:00 PM
Apr 2013

Damn did they ever kick our ass yesterday.

Grumble grumble grumble... ooh yeah, poor lady, that probably hurts even more.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
145. It isn't his fault his girlfriend got hit by the ball
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:09 PM
Apr 2013

When you dive out of the way to avoid something, you don't know where it's going to end up - he didn't know it was going to hit his girlfriend. And she could have dove out of the way too.

Now, I have an instinct when I'm with my kids to dive in front of them to block things that are flying/falling toward them, but I don't expect people to have that instinct around adults.

Anyway, sometimes people just get hurt and it isn't anyone's fault.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
160. Too bad so many men feel the need to condemn this guy. Publicly shamed at the event...
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 11:23 PM
Apr 2013

and now in the press.

I've been all over the internet looking for the public shaming from a feminist perspective.

Nada.

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