Fox News host grills NRA on magazine ban: ‘How many more lives would have been saved?’

[alp227]

Wow, a Republi-CON propaganda reader actually got something RIGHT this time? Raw Story reports:

National Rifle Association (NRA) CEO Wayne LaPierre on Thursday found himself struggling to explain to Fox News host Megyn Kelly why a ban on high-capacity magazines could not have saved some of the 20 children who were murdered in Newtown, Connecticut last December.

After playing some video of parents of victims speaking to CBS News, Kelly noted that they had made a “powerful” argument that “if Adam Lanza, the shooter at Newtown, had not had 30 round magazines — if he had only had 10 rounds in these guns — more children would have lived.”

“The people who are going to do horror and terror, they aren’t going to cooperate,” the NRA chief replied. “All you’re going to do is make the law books thicker for the law-abiding people. From the very start, my thought has been about how little this had to do with keeping kids safe and how much it has to do with this decades-long agenda against firearms that some in the political class and the media have had.”

“You hear the parents and the spouses of those killed — there were 20 children and six adults killed,” Kelly pointed out, bringing LaPierre back to the point of high-capacity magazines. “Eleven children had a chance to escape as that guy reloaded. And the one man is saying there, if he had to reload five times instead of one time, how many more lives would have been saved?”

Back in July, Kelly also expressed skepticism of the NRA's claims that the UN Arms Treaty would undermine the 2nd Amendment.

Searched twitter, wingnuts are already sad.

also a cool website: meetthenra.org

[rdharma]

1. Megan Kelley going after Wayne LaPierre?

Even the FOX fools know where public opinion on this issue is heading. And FOX is jumping on the band wagon so they won't be left behind.

[derby378]

2. Lewis and Clark took a rifle with a 20-round magazine into the American wilderness

And the Founding Fathers were perfectly cool with it.

LaPew could have made that argument, but he didn't. That's why there's Democrats like me who are bringing balance to the magazine debate.

[rickford66]

4. A heavy duty air gun

All the firearms of the Lewis and Clark expedition were single-shot, muzzle loading, black powder guns with flintlock ignition, the notable exception being Lewis's air gun, which on several occasions astonished native Indians with its repeating operation.

Lewis's air gun was an unusual property of the expedition. Widespread agreement is that it was a Girandoni-style air rifle, a design originally designed and built for the Austrian army. Girandoni-style airguns were made by several European gunsmiths. They were typically about .46 to .49 caliber, had a magazine for 20 round bullets, and were repeaters. The air reservoir is the hollow steel butt, and hundreds of strokes of a pump were needed to give it a full charge of air. Lewis used his personal air gun to impress Indians in council. It was smokeless, and could fire 20 shots in one minute. The Indians were impressed, except for the Teton Sioux. The air gun was the most unusual piece of equipment on the expedition, and served some role in negotiations with the natives, but was otherwise not an essential part of the expedition in any way. It was then, and remains, a curiosity, not "the gun that opened the west." Lewis and Clark could have done all they did without it. Incidentally air guns of that period and caliber are not silent and make a very loud crack; what impressed the Indians was the air gun's repeating operation, not silent operation.

http://www.westernexplorers.us/Lewis-and-Clark-Expedition-firearms-summary.html

Added the link to this info.

[Bandit]

5. It was not a detachable magazine...

No one is saying you can not own a gun with a built in magazine that holds more than ten rounds....NO ONE...

[krispos42]

7. Actually....

Feinstein's proposed ban covers that as well.

[spanone]

3. hey wayne, when faux turns on you, your relevance clock is ticking

[krispos42]

6. Obvious answer is obvious.

There were hundreds of kids in the school. The nut had 5 uninterrupted minutes to shoot as many people as he could. The people he was shooting were little kids and women. He shot 6 bullets for every person he killed, and changed magazine frequently, discarding unfired rounds.

If he had the same number of rounds in 10 round magazines, he simply would, maybe, have wasted fewer shots. Hell, he shot one kid 11 times!

He killed 5 people a minute for 5.minutes. Could he have still killed 5 people a minute for 5 minutes with 10 round magazine?

YES.


Would it have been the exact same 20 kids and 6 adults? Probably not. If you change an input you must also change the outputs.


The overall situation would not have changed. There were no strong adults there waiting to jump him during a reload, and the school was too confined for a mass exodus.

The names might be slightly different. maybe a couple of more lived, or died.


But mass slaughter was a foregone conclusion.

[bluestate10]

8. Kelly became a mom for the first time a couple of years ago. She likely now thinks about her

child and sometimes call bullshit on liars when it comes to protecting children.