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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 09:16 AM Apr 2013

Offshore Leaks: Vast Web of Tax Evasion Exposed

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/icij-journalists-expose-mass-web-of-global-tax-evasion-a-892505.html


The town of Tortola in the British Virgin Islands: The UK territory is at the center of an explosive new report on global tax havens.

Oligarchs and dictators' daughters apparently have a penchant for bunkering their assets on the British Virgin Islands. Barons and composers, on the other hand, seem to prefer the Cook Islands. To cheat on taxes, they create bogus firms with imaginative names like Tantris, Moon Crystal or Sequoia.

Those are just a few details published this week on a major global system of tax evasion, which sheds new light on the methods used to deceive fiscal authorities and hide money. In what is believed to be the largest data leak in history, anonymous informants have provided an international consortium of journalists with around 2.5 million documents detailing activities in tax havens around the world.
The virtual Everest of data exposes some 120,000 letterbox entities, offshore accounts and other dubious deals in more than 170 countries, in addition to the names of 140,000 individuals alleged to have placed their money in known tax havens. The list includes politicians, celebrities, weapons dealers, oligarchs, financiers and a very diverse cast of characters. It also includes hundreds of Germans. Reporters at the Süddeutsche Zeitung newspaper noted that the most famous German featured on the list is society playboy Gunter Sachs, best known abroad as Brigitte Bardot's husband for a brief period in the 1960s, who committed suicide in 2011 at the age of 78.

A 15-Month Reporting Project

"The investigation lifts the curtain on the offshore system and provides a transparent look into the secret world of tax havens and the individuals and companies that use and benefit from them," said Gerard Ryle, director of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), the organization that managed the global research. "We already knew how secret and inaccessible the offshore industry is, but we were surprised by how vast and far-reaching it is."
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Offshore Leaks: Vast Web of Tax Evasion Exposed (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2013 OP
Anonymous hidden wealth revealed after data leak xchrom Apr 2013 #1
xchrom, are they actually public yet? nc4bo Apr 2013 #3
i don't know yet. xchrom Apr 2013 #5
Jesus Christ on a trike....... nc4bo Apr 2013 #2
+1 xchrom Apr 2013 #4
countdown to the US Press going after this librechik Apr 2013 #6
i thought this would be of more interest to more people. nt xchrom Apr 2013 #7
I thought so too. nc4bo Apr 2013 #8
And what would you think about ..... oldhippie Apr 2013 #11
Unless you were deliberately trying to avoid paying taxes than I don't think anyone would care nc4bo Apr 2013 #12
And how would you be able to sort out ....... oldhippie Apr 2013 #14
3 words: Pay your taxes and there's nothing to fear - it's that simple. nc4bo Apr 2013 #20
But you didn't answer my question ...... oldhippie Apr 2013 #23
Are YOU an "oligarch or dictators' daughter" hiding money? nc4bo Apr 2013 #26
OK, don't answer the question oldhippie Apr 2013 #27
I can read and so can you. Every person in this thread gets the gist of the article but you. nc4bo Apr 2013 #28
There's already three other threads on this ... all now on Greatest Threads. eppur_se_muova Apr 2013 #22
The list also includes ...... oldhippie Apr 2013 #9
so you're not a suspect then? lonestarnot Apr 2013 #15
But how would you know that ..... oldhippie Apr 2013 #16
you said so. lonestarnot Apr 2013 #17
Must be among the very wealthy 1%ers who feel they don't need to play by the same rules nc4bo Apr 2013 #19
I guess unless yer famous Ligyron Apr 2013 #18
But what happens to the famous people on the list ..... oldhippie Apr 2013 #25
I think we might be surprised to see how many Congressmen and Senators....? kentuck Apr 2013 #10
This could get interesting Oilwellian Apr 2013 #13
Don't worry Attorney General Holder is on the case Ichingcarpenter Apr 2013 #21
HuffPo Has It Here: (K & R !!!) WillyT Apr 2013 #24

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
1. Anonymous hidden wealth revealed after data leak
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 09:29 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/world/anonymous-hidden-wealth-revealed-after-data-leak-1.1348735


The identities of thousands of holders of hidden wealth have been revealed after more than two million emails and documents were leaked from Britain's offshore financial industry.

A number of high profile names were linked with offshore trusts and accounts, based mainly in the British Virgin Islands, including presidents, wealthy individuals and families, government officials, a British millionaire, and the eldest daughter of former president of the Philippines Ferdinand Marcos.

More than 200GB of financial data stretching back more than a decade was analysed by the Guardian and other international media as part of a project in collaboration with International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, based in Washington.

The files include data on the global transactions of BVI private incorporation agencies, and entities in Singapore, Hong Kong and the Cook Islands in the Pacific.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
3. xchrom, are they actually public yet?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 09:31 AM
Apr 2013

If not it should be available for the entire world to view.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
2. Jesus Christ on a trike.......
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 09:30 AM
Apr 2013

The entire database of names, etc. should be made public. If not in a huge "official" datadump then certainly by any means necessary.

Disgusting on so many levels.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
8. I thought so too.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:37 AM
Apr 2013

It really is "part of the problem" so to speak.

It's not just a domestic problem, it's a global one.

The list of names really needs to be made public - perhaps once people can identify the names and make it more personal, the more interest would be generated?

I'm very interested in the Americans myself.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
11. And what would you think about .....
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:42 AM
Apr 2013

..... my name being on the list? See my post below. I would be on the list. So what? I did nothing wrong or illegal. All it would be is an invasion of my privacy. The IRS already knows everything about my previous account in a "tax haven."

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
12. Unless you were deliberately trying to avoid paying taxes than I don't think anyone would care
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:44 AM
Apr 2013

to raise pitchfork or torches against you.

Unless you were/are hiding millions/billions.

This list is/should spotlight a specific group of 1%ers.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
14. And how would you be able to sort out .......
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:49 AM
Apr 2013

.... who are your "specific group of 1%ers" vs the people who were legal and legitimate, just from seeing a list of names? Even some 1%ers have legitimate and legal reasons for having funds in a tax haven, particularly if you travel there regularly. How would you know which were avoiding paying taxes and who wasn't?

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
20. 3 words: Pay your taxes and there's nothing to fear - it's that simple.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:33 AM
Apr 2013

We should all play by the same set of rules, period.

What's the big deal....um?

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
23. But you didn't answer my question ......
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:47 AM
Apr 2013
The list of names really needs to be made public - perhaps once people can identify the names and make it more personal, the more interest would be generated?

I'm very interested in the Americans myself.

How would YOU (or any member of the general public) be able to tell who is engaging in illegal tax evasion and who (like me) complied with all the laws and reporting requirements? I can see where the IRS and State tax officials need the list, but what is the purpose of releasing it to the public? It could only result in all on the list being tarred with the same brush. The general public is so ignorant of general global financial systems and planning that there is a common misperception that anyone who has an account in a tax haven is illegally evading taxes. I would rather not be accused of that by an ignorant public. I'm fine with giving the list with my name on it to the IRS, but making it public invades my privacy.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
26. Are YOU an "oligarch or dictators' daughter" hiding money?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:59 AM
Apr 2013

Did you "create bogus firms with imaginative names like Tantris, Moon Crystal or Sequoia"?

Does THIS fit the description of the assets you've deposited in offshore accounts: "Those are just a few details published this week on a major global system of tax evasion, which sheds new light on the methods used to deceive fiscal authorities and hide money"

The article makes it perfectly clear the intent of the disclosure and the importance of it. There is nothing to answer that isn't in the article.

What IS there left to answer?



 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
27. OK, don't answer the question
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 02:42 PM
Apr 2013

It really doesn't matter. Just further confirms my general observation.

Have a good day.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
28. I can read and so can you. Every person in this thread gets the gist of the article but you.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:41 PM
Apr 2013

There is nothing else that can be said.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
9. The list also includes ......
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:37 AM
Apr 2013
... in addition to the names of 140,000 individuals alleged to have placed their money in known tax havens. The list includes politicians, celebrities, weapons dealers, oligarchs, financiers and a very diverse cast of characters.


The list would also include many normal people, like me. I had a bank account in a Swiss bank for many years. So I guess I would be on that list of 140,000 individuals alleged to have placed their money in known tax havens. So what? I reported the account on my form 1040 each year, as required. I dutifully paid US income taxes on the interest earned (in addition to some Swiss tax.) I complied with all US and Swiss reporting and tax laws.

Just being on the list does not indicate any illegal behavior. There are a lot of legitimate reasons to have funds in a "tax haven" for normal business and personal reasons that have nothing to do with anything illegal.
 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
16. But how would you know that .....
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:54 AM
Apr 2013

.... only by seeing a list of names? It was merely the public release of the list of names that was advocated above in post #8.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
19. Must be among the very wealthy 1%ers who feel they don't need to play by the same rules
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:28 AM
Apr 2013

as the rest of us.

If so, I'd be happy to say congratulations to him/her and then a suggestion to pay your taxes!

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
25. But what happens to the famous people on the list .....
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:56 AM
Apr 2013

... that complied with every law and reporting requirement. What do you think the public will feel about them? The public does not have access to the person's tax returns and records. They will just assume (because they have been told so many times) that they must be illegally evading taxes. How would you like that to happen to you? How would you like to be on a list in your community that also included a bunch of sex offenders, even though you never did any such thing? Maybe you just had the same name as one of them.

I'll quit now. I don't think anyone here gets my point. It's all about "generating interest."

kentuck

(111,080 posts)
10. I think we might be surprised to see how many Congressmen and Senators....?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:40 AM
Apr 2013

...have these secret accounts?

Maybe even Presidents and Cabinet officials?

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
13. This could get interesting
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:49 AM
Apr 2013

I didn't know the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists existed. It gives one a touch of hope in this corrupt world.

K&R

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