Massachusetts McDonald's demands bachelors degree and two years' experience for cashiers

[OhioChick]

15:05 EST, 3 April 2013

It used to be high school drop outs flipping burgers at McDonald's, now the fast-food joint is demanding a bachelors degree.

In a frightening example of how competitive the job market is for young people right now, a McDonald's outpost in Winchedon, Massachusetts, has just posted a call-out for a full time cashier - but insists only college graduates need apply.

And even they must have 1-2 years of cashier experience before they'll be trusted with the Big-Mac-selling responsibility, according to the advert.

'Get a weekly paycheck with a side order of food, folks and fun,' the independent McDonald's franchise boasts.

More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303618/Massachusetts-McDonalds-demands-bachelors-degree-years-experience-cashiers-job.html

McDonald's Cashier Job Requires Bachelor's Degree

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/video/mcdonalds-cashier-job-requires-bachelors-degree/2275006171001

[babylonsister]

1. I don't believe this. No way. And if usatoday

just copied from the dailymail, that's even more disturbing.

[Warpy]

34. I can. Nowhere is degree creep more evident than in Boston

Thirty years ago I was parsing some of the Sunday employment ads in the Globe to decipher the circumlocution and obfuscation designed to make jobs sound important enough to attract new grads from some of the many big name schools in the area.

One of them broke down to stock boy. Stock boy! With a 4 year degree, preferably from Harvard!

The requirements may have gotten insane, but the pay certainly hasn't budged. They were paying about the same, adjusted for inflation, that they'd have paid a smart high school grad back in the 1950s, barely above minimum wage.

[still_one]

37. I agree. There is no such requirement in California.

[Go Vols]

2. .

Crew (Cashiers)
Contract type : Full Time
Positions available : 1
Experience required : 1- 2 Years
Studies level required : Bachelor Degree
Location : Winchendon
Weekly working duration : Full Time


Customer Service, Cashiers: Friendly people wanted to smile while serving lots of guests
daily. Flexible hours, part-time and full-time positions available. Work with your friends
or make some new ones! Get a weekly paycheck with a side order of food, folks and fun.
Join our Service Team today! Benefits: Affordable health, vision and dental insurance.
Free uniforms, discounts on meals and employee discount program thru Entertainment Book.
Structured training and regular performance reviews. Advancement opportunities within!
This independent McDonalds franchise is an equal opportunity employer committed to a
diverse work force. Corporate McDonalds | Country Sites | State Sites | Privacy Policy |
Terms & Conditions | ?2004-2006 McDonalds Corporation

http://www.jobdiagnosis.com/index.php?option=com_neorecruit&id=120997889&task=offer_view&Itemid=87&aff_id=simplyhired&sub_id=feed&feed=true&utm_source=SimplyHired&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=SimplyHired

[undeterred]

3. And should that degree be in accounting or food science?

[quaker bill]

5. Probably not food science

I have been there.

[hobbit709]

58. FOOD science is not applicable at McDonald's.

[donco]

4. Must be

a belated April fools joke.

[ChromeFoundry]

6. I think the job board is at fault

The actual job posting does not state this requirement:
http://www.mcmassachusetts.com/careers/opportunities/12061/

Crew (Cashiers)
Hours: All Shifts
Description: Customer Service, Cashiers: Friendly people wanted to smile while serving lots of guests daily. Flexible hours, part-time and full-time positions available. Work with your friends or make some new ones! Get a weekly paycheck with a side order of food, folks and fun. Join our Service Team today! Benefits: Affordable health, vision and dental insurance. Free uniforms, discounts on meals and employee discount program thru Entertainment Book. Structured training and regular performance reviews. Advancement opportunities within! This independent McDonald's franchise is an equal opportunity employer committed to a diverse work force. Corporate McDonald's | Country Sites | State Sites | Privacy Policy | Terms & Conditions | ?2004-2006 McDonald's Corporation

235 Spring Circle
Winchendon MA 01475
Phone: [phone]
Manager: Mark Gauthier, Jr

[intheflow]

18. ^^^ THIS ^^^ That's not the actual job posting

on the McD's website. They have no educational requirements listed in the posting, not even for managerial track.

[boston bean]

7. They are looking for candidates with a masters

to run the fry and grill.

[Llewlladdwr]

8. This might not be a bad idea.

The folks my local McDonald's has working now aren't smart enough to get my order right more than 40% of the time. It's so bad I've pretty much stopped eating there. A college educated work force couldn't hurt.

[DearHeart]

9. So screw people who cannot afford college, right?

Nice.

[Llewlladdwr]

12. Everyone can afford college.

That's what student loans and grants are for.

[2ndAmForComputers]

16. It is impossible to accurately describe the above post and not get one's reply hidden.

Jesus. H. Christ.

[HangOnKids]

36. Thank You

I tried to reply to it. Gave up, it was too _______ fill in the blanks.

[Renew Deal]

22. Do you think your post makes sense?

[Llewlladdwr]

23. Yes, I do.

It's grammatically correct English and the idea expressed is fairly simple. What part of it doesn't?

[Renew Deal]

24. If "everyone can afford college"

Then why do they need loans and grants? And there are people that can't get loans for many different reasons.

[Llewlladdwr]

29. Everyone can afford college *because* of student loans and grants.

That's like saying no one can afford a car because people have to take out loans to buy them. It's just nonsensical.

But look, if a loan just isn't for you then apply for a grant or a scholarship. Or God forbid, volunteer for a couple of years in the military and sign up for the GI Bill. You can also get tuition assistance while you're serving.

The point I'm trying to make here is that there are many ways of financing a college education. If you truly want one the money is there, you just have to look around a bit to find it.

[Fuddnik]

33. April Fools Day has already passed.

[Ikonoklast]

42. Everyone can afford a Bentley and a four bedroom apartment at Central Park West, too.

Just borrow the money.

See? Easy peasy, problem solved!








Some people are truly disconnected from reality.

[Llewlladdwr]

44. I don't think they give grants or scholarships for cars or apartments.

Grants and scholarships don't normally have to be paid back.

Neither does the GI Bill, or tuition assitance to military personnel.

Here in Texas the state offers a program to assist veterans with their education. I believe it's the Hazelwood program. You can even pass it on to your dependents if you don't use it yourself. Doesn't have to be paid back.

If you can't find financing for college you simply aren't looking hard enough...

[Ikonoklast]

46. You might find some meaning in this....

If only starving people bought some food, they wouldn't be hungry, either.

[Llewlladdwr]

47. If a starving person could get a loan or a grant for food....

...they'd be pretty foolish not to, no?

[Ikonoklast]

49. And just how are they going to pay it back, working at a fucking McDonald's?

Zoom, yet again.

[MindPilot]

63. Did you work on the Romney campaign?

Sounds like your next suggestion is going to be "borrow it from your parents".

[alp227]

26. " Everyone can afford college. That's what student loans and grants are for." REALLY?

Am I still on DU or is my Internet acting funny? Search "student loan" within this website, my friend. See the fallacy in your statement.

[Llewlladdwr]

31. Yes, alp227, student loans and grants really are there so that people can afford to go to college.

Are you saying that there's some other reason we provide people with student loans and grants?

[Life Long Dem]

41. I don't think it's because they have rich parents

[Llewlladdwr]

45. I don't understand your comment. nt

[Life Long Dem]

48. You said

"Are you saying that there's some other reason we provide people with student loans and grants?"

And I pointed out, students get loans because they don't have a rich mom and dad to give them the cost of school. Like Romney was telling students they can do.

[Marrah_G]

61. And then they pay off those loans working for 10 bucks an hour?

You live in a fantasy world.

[Art_from_Ark]

38. Student loans are different today than they were when I had one

There were NDSLs (National Direct Student Loans) that were offered by Uncle Sam with very reasonable terms-- no interest accrued until 9 months after graduation, unless the student was continuing on to grad school, and the interest rate was around 3% simple interest. My loan was small enough that I could pay it off in full within 9 months after I had left school and started working full time.

[Llewlladdwr]

40. I've been dealing with the current loan regime for the last five years.

My youngest daughter graduated college in September 2012. My oldest is in her last semester now. I've seen how the system works, and I agree it can be frustrating.

But the point is that the money was there for them to go to college because of student loans and grants. Which are available to just about everyone, as far as I know.

[Art_from_Ark]

43. Grants are one thing,

since they are basically money with no strings attached.

The terms of loans, however, seem to be getting more and more complicated. Are there still 3% NDSL loans available? And are they available to everyone? Or are more and more students being forced to take loans from the "Friendly Loan Company" at high interest that starts accruing at the start of the loan, for sums that are well over the $2500 in loans that I took out over 4 years?

[uncle ray]

51. feel free to list those loans and grants that are available to everybody.

[Live and Learn]

55. I can't believe you actually posted that.

Was it a joke?

[hobbit709]

57. And just how long will it take to repay those loans at McD's wages?

I guess you are in favor of lifetime debt peonage for most people.

[Marrah_G]

59. What world do you live in?

[HughBeaumont]

64. One where "The Big Tent" is just a little TOO big, apparently.

I guess "Democratic" means accepting "The Secret" acolytes who push bootstrapping as the economic cure-all.

[Arctic Dave]

13. I'm pretty sure they are able to get it right all the time.

It must be you.

Does it taste like spit?

[Llewlladdwr]

14. No Artic Dave, they can't.

And I'm not talking about anything much more difficult than counting. I don't normally order combo meals, just sandwiches and fries. And since the number of fries and the number of sandwiches are usually different I usually end up being shorted either a sandwich or an order of fries. Which I then have to go inside and ask for, very nicely I assure you. I know better than to yell at the people making my food.

Perhaps you don't mind paying for food you're not given, but it just kinda rubs me the wrong way....

[HangOnKids]

35. This post explains a lot

[Marrah_G]

17. I don't believe that you really think that.

[alp227]

27. In the poster's defense, I think employers are becoming less fond of those without higher ed.

Altho another post (#6) points out that these media reports are wrong, I've seen elsewhere on DU that a lot of companies are REQUIRING bachelor degrees even for those non technical positions for the jobs that used to go to HS grads. Come to think of it you can blame the dumbing down of the K-12 system and common stereotypes that college-educated=better worker or teenagers=spoiled and rotten and poor workers.

[Kablooie]

10. See son? It's important to get a degree if you want a job.

[Aristus]

11. Unfair policy. At the same time, I wouldn't mind if, for once,

a cashier would count my change back to me using the addition technique. You know, the way they used to; this way:

Instead of pushing a handful of bills and coins at me and muttering "heresyerchange", do this: "37 cents makes 14 dollars; 1 makes 15, and 5 makes 20. Thank you!"

Doesn't even require a bachelor's degree.

[mrmpa]

20. I do hate when they hand you..........

the bills and then put the coins on top & hand it to you. I most times ask for the coins first and then take the bills second.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

15. You can easily spot the people in this thread that have never worked a service job...

[Buns_of_Fire]

19. "Would you like some Chaucer with that?" nt

[MattBaggins]

21. The questions college grads ask

Science: How does this work?
Philosophy: Why does this work?
Engineering: How can I make this work better?
Business: How can I make this work more cheaply?

Liberal Arts: You want fries with that?

[alp227]

28. Think instead of copying bumper stickers.

I am a current college student. One of my friends is an English major and is going to law school after graduating next month. Another is an art history major and also a political activist on campus who plans on being a teacher after college. Think before making sweeping stereotypes.

[MattBaggins]

32. It's a joke

Put some ointment on your rashes before posting

[Heywood J]

56. Business: How can I outsource this? (NT)

[TheKentuckian]

25. Who knew that getting "educated for the jobs of the future" would result in asking

"Do you want fries with that?"

We aren't there yet but we are sliding in that direction. I think the education pushes are more scam than reality, everything gluts, pay goes down, higher standards are demanded at the entry level, the once in demand degree is devalued, anyone below gets crushed harder.

What we have here is pretty much a trickle down perversion based on way oversold little kernels of truth, all dressed up in lofty sounding rhetoric while playing to egos that have their own bootstrap fables.

[MannyGoldstein]

30. Cambridge, maybe. But Winchendon? Nah. nt

[slackmaster]

62. It's just one McDonald's franchise in a town in MA, not the entire world.

Maybe the owner wants to help out graduates who are having trouble finding work.

[jmowreader]

50. Give them five years...

Some community college will invent a Retail Science degree, and you'll need two years of college to get a job stocking shelves at Walmart. Naturally, the pay will not increase.

You will probably need a bachelor of business administration to be an assistant manager. You already need an MBA to be a Home Depot store manager.

[MADem]

52. Hmmm. It is WincheNdon, not Wichedon....I have to wonder if someone is having a laugh.

Either that, or whoever was typesetting the ad messed up and used an old ad for something else as a template, and didn't realize they hadn't substituted "high school students and up" for what was already written in the blank....

[graham4anything]

53. Wellness 101-Requirement should be removing all soda cups larger than 16 ounces no refills.

And stressing the salad with NO dressing.(but NO croutons.)

Ask to hold the bun and the special sauce and the cheese.

Ask for extra pickles (zero calories,) extra lettuce and tomato or two.

And just the burger if you must, as a burger is actually not that many calories(especially the regular ones or the value size).

Do NOT order French Fries.

BTW, it goes without saying NO triple whoppers.

Holy MF Batman, look at this-
The Burger King Triple Whopper with cheese is available in a 480 gram serving which contains 1250 calories with 760 of those calories coming from fat. The Triple Whopper with cheese also has 84 grams of fat, 52 grams of carbohydrates, and 73 grams of protein.

[freshwest]

69. ZOMG! That BK burger is instant coronary material. Just sayin'

[DollarBillHines]

54. Screw that... hack your own path

I am 60 years old and I have never worked for a paycheck.

It is easy, you just gotta keep your lamp trimmed and burning.

[2ndAmForComputers]

71. Tough competition to post 12, this is.

[JVS]

60. What do they pay?

[ck4829]

65. That better be a supercomputer cash register or something. Wow.

[steve2470]

66. nvm false alarm nt

[derby378]

67. Wait a minute - I thought the economy was IMPROVING

I mean, take a look at the DJIA! See the big board!

[Douglas Carpenter]

68. I've been expecting fast food joints to start requiring applicants to be culinary graduates

with the explosion in culinary schools - I could imagine a situation where there are just so many culinary graduates and a limited amount of jobs..it seems like a natural progression.

[Generic Other]

70. Hamburger University

February 24, 1961, Hamburger University's first class of 15 students graduated

Today, more than 5,000 students attend Hamburger University each year

Since 1961, more than 80,000 restaurant managers, mid-managers and owner/operators have graduated from this facility

[octothorpe]

72. I find this difficult to believe... I bet someone doesn't know how to use the job board they posted

on. It makes little sense for them to only want to hire people who will continue to seek higher paying jobs right from the start. Many places won't even consider those that they think are overqualified because they know they'll leave for higher pay...