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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:43 PM Apr 2013

Karen Finney is not black enough...


A Media Research Center staffer says John Boehner is darker-skinned than the new MSNBC host



Hey, Reince Priebus: Here’s some more top-notch minority outreach from your partners at the right-wing Media Research Center.

MSNBC just announced that Karen Finney, a network political analyst and former communications director of the Democratic National Committee, will host a new weekend show. MRC director of media analysis Tim Graham immediately Tweeted:

MSNBC touting Karen Finney as another African-American host. Would the average viewer be able to guess that? Or is Boehner a shade more tan?

— Tim Graham (@TimJGraham) April 2, 2013

Finney is African-American, although MSNBC didn’t particularly “tout” that in its press release; it mentioned that she was the first African-American communications director of the DNC and is a member of the National Association of Black Journalists. I’m not sure what would cause Graham to even muse about her racial bona fides, let alone share his idiocy publicly. When mocked on Twitter, he just dug his hole deeper:


http://www.salon.com/2013/04/02/crazy_righty_karen_finney%E2%80%99s_not_black_enough/
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Karen Finney is not black enough... (Original Post) HipChick Apr 2013 OP
So faux tanner now determines race? BainsBane Apr 2013 #1
What's the difference between Obama and Finney? n/t malaise Apr 2013 #2
F.... this shit! elleng Apr 2013 #3
I love, love, hearing her speak. She has a particular patois that is very appealing. Go Karen..n/t monmouth3 Apr 2013 #6
Yea, mouth, she tawks good!!! elleng Apr 2013 #7
In the interest of keeping their base agitated, Republicans will say anything. Scuba Apr 2013 #4
OY! They've done it again! CTyankee Apr 2013 #5
Tim Graham is a real piece of work. Look him up in the site ConWebWatch.tripod.com. alp227 Apr 2013 #8
First I heard of it.. I never knew Cha Apr 2013 #9
That guy sounds bigoted LeftInTX Apr 2013 #10
CONGRATS to Karen Finney on her new hosting job! nt Raine Apr 2013 #11
Good...when will she start? Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #23
I couldn't find a starting date but she will be on from 4-5:00 PM eastern time Raine Apr 2013 #28
I didn't know that John Boehner was a black man. Jamaal510 Apr 2013 #12
Wow, this is some sick shit....not "dark" enough? Please. MADem Apr 2013 #13
Just like Elizabeth Warren isn't dark enough to be Native Amercian. Bandit Apr 2013 #14
Who freakin' cares what color anyone's skin is? 1monster Apr 2013 #15
WTF?? Sissyk Apr 2013 #16
Boner is not orange. Scientists are still trying to match Boner's skin color with a bluestate10 Apr 2013 #20
lol! Sissyk Apr 2013 #21
They would have to take him HappyMe Apr 2013 #33
Karen Finney is biracial Samantha Apr 2013 #17
I remember loyalsister Apr 2013 #19
She talked about this recently and told a riveting story Samantha Apr 2013 #24
I think that was Melissa Harris-Perry. n/t StrayKat Apr 2013 #25
I am pretty sure I heard Karen Finney participating in this discussion Samantha Apr 2013 #31
Here you go: StrayKat Apr 2013 #32
Geez, I can't believe that Samantha Apr 2013 #34
It's all good. StrayKat Apr 2013 #39
So, orange is the new black? StrayKat Apr 2013 #18
Karen Finney is a Hottie American. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2013 #22
She's one of my favorites. Never tire of seeing her or JoyAnne Reid. eom ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2013 #27
+1 XRubicon Apr 2013 #30
That's ok, when Joy Anne Reid gets her well-deserved time-slot, he'll be ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2013 #26
I thought she was Irish.. jambo101 Apr 2013 #29
Her father was black. NT Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #38
"John Boehner is a person of color, unfortunately it's not a color found in nature" -BH Obama Fumesucker Apr 2013 #35
I have seen her before. AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #36
Boehner is not tan, he is a shade not found in nature Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #37
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
4. In the interest of keeping their base agitated, Republicans will say anything.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:49 PM
Apr 2013

Their base is made up of a homogenous group: The willfully ingnorant.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
8. Tim Graham is a real piece of work. Look him up in the site ConWebWatch.tripod.com.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 05:03 PM
Apr 2013

And he's from Wisconsin too (a little town east of La Crosse called Viroqua as he boasts on Newsbusters). That's OK I still know a LOT of good non bigoted DUers are from the Badger State!

Cha

(297,171 posts)
9. First I heard of it.. I never knew
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 05:06 PM
Apr 2013

Karen Finney was Black. I don't watch tv.. but, Like it matters one way or another. Except to racist assholes like tim graham.

boner's orange. How's that goin' for him?

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
23. Good...when will she start?
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:48 PM
Apr 2013

I always liked her and wondered why no one grabbed her. Congratulations Karen!

she said the other day her mother was white and father was black. She also has a white grandparent. Can't remember which one.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
28. I couldn't find a starting date but she will be on from 4-5:00 PM eastern time
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 02:53 AM
Apr 2013

as the lead in to Ed Shultz.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. Wow, this is some sick shit....not "dark" enough? Please.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 05:13 PM
Apr 2013

If you don't like someone's POV, that's where ya leave it--at the well of ideas. When they start playing the "tone" game as a way of determining if someone "belongs" to a group (especially when it's people outside the group trying to decide who is "black enough" or not) they've just lost the argument.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
14. Just like Elizabeth Warren isn't dark enough to be Native Amercian.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 05:26 PM
Apr 2013

It just doesn't get any more plain than this...

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
20. Boner is not orange. Scientists are still trying to match Boner's skin color with a
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:14 PM
Apr 2013

color known to humankind. So far, no luck.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
17. Karen Finney is biracial
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:01 PM
Apr 2013

She is the beautiful offspring of one African-American parent and one Caucasian parent.

I heard President Obama once describing the experience of having to choose on a form he was completing his ethnicity. He felt he looked more African-American and preferred to be identified as such if he had to choose simply one block to check.

Sam

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
19. I remember
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:29 PM
Apr 2013

a comment about having as much trouble getting a cab or being mistaken as a doorman as other people of color.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
24. She talked about this recently and told a riveting story
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 12:06 AM
Apr 2013

I think it might have been her father who was African-American (I am not sure if her parents are still living) and her mother was Caucasian. But the story revolved around the woman making a move to an area where she experienced things she had never seen before. There were whites-only pools and pools for African-Americans. She asked incredulously why not just one pool, and he answered "Jim Crow." I can't imagine experiencing anything like that.

She is a sharp commentator who seems to constantly grow sharper! Nice to hear about her new success.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
31. I am pretty sure I heard Karen Finney participating in this discussion
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:28 AM
Apr 2013

I have followed her for some time and would not confuse her with Melissa Harris-Perry, who might have a similar heritage. Not to sure about her background because I personally have not heard her open up on this subject.

Sam

StrayKat

(570 posts)
32. Here you go:
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:45 AM
Apr 2013

Melissa Harris-Perry, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, was raised in a racially charged South. Her mother was white and her father was black.

"I was born fewer than 10 years after the 1965 Voting Rights Act," she said. "My mother was from the West and when she first came, she said, 'Why are there two pools?' My father said, 'Jim Crow, Diana, Jim Crow.'"

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/halle-berry-cites-drop-rule-daughter-black-white/story?id=12869789&page=2#.UV2RwcqrzKc

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
34. Geez, I can't believe that
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 08:17 PM
Apr 2013

I must have been really tired that night. I am pretty clear on these two different commentators and it is difficult to believe I made that mistake. But thanks for setting me straight.

Sam

StrayKat

(570 posts)
39. It's all good.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:54 AM
Apr 2013

I only remember this because I was surprised how similar MHP's background was to my own.

Honestly, I don't recall Karen Finney talking about her upbringing. It might be partly why so many are surprised by her heritage.

StrayKat

(570 posts)
18. So, orange is the new black?
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:18 PM
Apr 2013

I'm sure Finney's critics would be just fine with her choosing to identify herself as white or Caucasian, and welcome her warmly and unquestioningly into their fold. Whatever.
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
26. That's ok, when Joy Anne Reid gets her well-deserved time-slot, he'll be
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 12:41 AM
Apr 2013

saying she's "too black", so it all evens out. ETA: (just in case!)

What a douche that Graham punk is!

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