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kpete

(71,965 posts)
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:48 AM Apr 2013

Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage

4/02/2013
Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage:
by The Rude Pundit

Oh, how we laugh at the idiots of the past. When we watch TV shows and movies that were produced or take place in the past, through the 1980s, at least, how we shake our heads, most of us, at the men who think a woman's place is in the home. What fools they are, what narrow-minded, bigoted fools, we think, and we know we're on the good side of history because, well, shit, we are, despite the best efforts of some on the right (men and women) to tell us that the nation collapsed once women decided life could be something other than just taking care of the kids and cleaning the house. Or that careers could be more than teacher, nurse, maid, or nanny, professions that were seen as variations on housewife. But if you were to tell the men, including politicians and religious leaders, who believed in what they saw as a "natural order" or some such garbage that they were, indeed, bigoted fools, they would have said the exact same goddamned thing that opponents of gay marriage now say: Hey, we're not bigots just because we disagree with you.

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In a few years, dear, sweet, dumb conservatives, you will be mocked as fools not just by mocking liberals who are so very cruel in their mockery, but by the vast, vast majority of young people, who think you are just, to use Bill "Everwrong" Kristol's word, pathetic to have stood in the way of progress. In our pop culture of the future, you will have to sit on the couch while your children and grandchildren laugh at how ridiculously, needlessly cruel you truly were.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2013/04/sorry-conservatives-you-are-bigot-if.html

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Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage (Original Post) kpete Apr 2013 OP
I disagree Enrique Apr 2013 #1
+1 CalFresh Apr 2013 #2
Actually, he was. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #3
Yes, he was. Maven Apr 2013 #4
People change FreeState Apr 2013 #6
that's the problem with namecalling Enrique Apr 2013 #7
Your positions don't define your beliefs? FreeState Apr 2013 #10
labelling is synonymous with namecalling Enrique Apr 2013 #11
You cant have a bigoted position without the belief n/t FreeState Apr 2013 #12
yeah he was. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #8
He was either a bigot (which I don't believe) EOTE Apr 2013 #13
K&R forestpath Apr 2013 #5
IMO, anyone not for marriage EQUALITY is espousing a bigoted stance. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #9
Yeppers. Solly Mack Apr 2013 #14
kick & recommended. William769 Apr 2013 #15

Maven

(10,533 posts)
4. Yes, he was.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 02:32 PM
Apr 2013

Thankfully, he abandoned his bigoted position and rhetoric, and seems to be easing up on the "states rights" bullshit.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
6. People change
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 02:54 PM
Apr 2013

and yes his stated beliefs were bigoted.

big·ot noun \ˈbi-gət\
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.


Treating gay people as second class citizens, denying them the same rights as everyone else, because of your personal beliefs, be it religious or otherwise, is bigotry.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
7. that's the problem with namecalling
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 03:15 PM
Apr 2013

you label someone, it makes it sound like they can't change. There is a big difference between saying someone is a bigot vs. saying they have a bigoted position.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
10. Your positions don't define your beliefs?
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 03:23 PM
Apr 2013

Labeling is not name calling. Your beliefs are an essential core or who you are. Your beliefs help make up who you are. Yes they can and do change, but labeling them for what they are does not mean they can't change.

One can have a bigoted belief without acting on them. Calling for political policies that enforce your bigoted beliefs is only done by those that are bigots.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
11. labelling is synonymous with namecalling
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 03:36 PM
Apr 2013

the terms are interchangeable.

Notice how the Rude Pundit doesn't say conservatives "have bigoted positions". He doesn't soften it the way some people do for Obama. It doesn't have the same punch as calling them (i.e. labelling them) "bigots".

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
13. He was either a bigot (which I don't believe)
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 03:53 PM
Apr 2013

or he was doing what was politically expedient, which is just as bad in my book. I'm not the one who believes it's OK to be against civil rights so long as it's done for political reasons.

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
9. IMO, anyone not for marriage EQUALITY is espousing a bigoted stance.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 03:21 PM
Apr 2013

I don't give a rat's ass on which side of the politcial spectrum they fall.

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