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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCould the reason why we don't get universal health care be to help keep the U.S. population down?
Ours are like the Times in which Dickens wrote:
"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."
As it stands now, the United States of America has 5-percent of the world's people, yet uses about 25-percent of the world's resources. For instance, fossil fuels.
If we had a population 10-percent, we might use about 50-percent or whatever the calculus of what there is, is. Who knows the exact numbers? I do know we're as a culture right at the top of the consumer pyramid. For certain long-range thinkers in the bowels of government and academia, useless eaters represent a problem. One scientist, Eric R. Pianka, was applauded for suggesting how great it would be for humanity if a nice Ebola virus would wipe out about 90-percent of the population.
So, our elected representatives work to maintain a ruthless, for-profit health care system in which those who can afford it receive the best and most modern medical care in the world and those who can't afford it, well, are more likely to die off. Look at the growing disparity in life expectancy for the rich and the poor, now about five years as best estimated.
Too bad, so sad. But, hey! How's that for successful economic Darwinism? Survival of the capitalist fittest and "Adios!" to the loser class.
George H.W. Bush - "You mean for sleeping or decongestant? Great."
Gee. This may also explain why "Money trumps peace" is so, uh, acceptable nowadays -- for a global effect.
Show me the money! Absolute Eugenics.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)I've never understood how anyone can keep calling something a theory, when evidence exists.
Racial hygiene, and it really never stopped.
You old conspiracy "theorist", you.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...paid extra, but it's worth it.
http://m.guardiannews.com/artanddesign/2013/mar/31/anti-drone-hoodie-big-brother
Thanks for never giving up and never ratting me out, Mnemosyne. It must be torture.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)have disappeared from the shelves over the years. Really wish I'd kept a title list, hindsight and all...
It did take almost a year to dig up a copy of 'The Franklin Conspiracy', only managed to get it when that prositute Gannon was visiting the WH. Seriously, ordered it over and over, was told being sent and never appeared.
I wish I could remember the book about Jr. being with that cult on the Texas - Mexican border when the massacre occured. Doubt it exists many places now. Do you recall the name? Please?!
I'll never rat you out, if you do the same for me! Its better they believe we are totally insane! Bwahaha...
PS - that half - hoodie is awesome! Bet someone suggests we buy one in tinfoil.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)I had to sell my shares in Medicare due to its low profit margin
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Darned paperwork. If only I knew how I could really afford to help save the planet via accountancy...
Future World carbon credit scam took victims for £2.5m
BY ANDREW PENMAN ON MARCH 21, 2013 8:46 AM IN INVESTMENTS
Mirror (UK) Blog
The following bilge would be laughable if it hadn't conned victims out of their life savings.
"Our aim is to build long-standing client relationships based on integrity and reward," gushed World Future Limited, which flogged green investments called carbon credits.
"We believe in service excellence, in the value of experienced carbon market professionals, and in putting clients first."
In fact, World Future put clients last, stinging them for around £2.5million.
One investor who lost £33,000 told us: "They called many times with a very persuasive argument about carbon credits being an excellent investment and I, to my eternal shame, caved in."
SNIP...
Among its lies was that airlines have to buy carbon credits every time a plane takes off and that investors could expect returns of up to 50% a year if they got in early.
CONTINUED...
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2013/03/future-world-carbon-credit-sca.html
Nuclear power is a great investment, I learned the other day from a DUer.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Basically it's an attempt at genocide against the political opposition.
I've been saying for years that they want us all dead. Policy after policy and word after word proves my point.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)keeps wages down.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Not even Congressional Democrats in 2001 could muster the political courage for verified paper trail voting. They did use the opportunity to enact legislation that helped perpetuate the problems into perpetuity.
What's Changed, What Hasn't and Why: Election Reform 2000-2006
Feb 07, 2006
Electionline.org, a source of nonpartisan and non-advocacy news and analysis on election reform issues, has published the fourth edition of "Whats Changed, What Hasnt and Why"- its annual report detailing the state of election reform nationwide.
From the introduction to the report:
"As 2006 begins, the standard title of the report is especially apt. The Help America Vote Act of 2002 imposed a number of key deadlines that finally arrived January 1; as a result, the existence (or lack thereof) of electoral changes and the reasons why are no longer merely an academic question for election officials, advocates and policymakers. Rather, such developments take on additional significance as they could provide the impetus for enforcement litigation or other federal activity in the field of election reform."
Pew Report in PDF: http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Reports/Election_reform/electionline_022006.pdf
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lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)their fucking asses for anything!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)I tell the youngsters I remember a time when all human life was valued.
They usually don't laugh in my face, but they do say, "Uh huh" a lot.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)moondust
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You could also incorporate the anti-abortion and anti-birth control agenda into the theory: "Out with the old, in with the new! More births increase the odds of producing Republicans, or at least more who can be educated from an early age in how to know and accept their place in the new feudal order where there are no handouts!"
Oh, and remember: "Die quickly."
toddwv
(2,830 posts)There are a lot of people making a lot of money off of keeping people sick.
And that's the bottom line.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)The "health care/big pharma" industry is designed to keep you alive long enough to suck every last penny out of you & your family, while never entirely curing you or preventing anything else down the road that would limit their ability to take more money from you.
They don't care how many of us live or die, just so long as they can milk us for everything we have first.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)You MUST have health insurance or risk financial ruin with any moderate or severe medical problem.
And try to get insurance if you're over 50 and self-employed.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)In fact, they want it to increase. Expanding population is seen as growth and growth is absolutely required and more people means a larger labor pool which means lower wages and greater general desperation.
There is no universal health care because the current and coming system are huge profit centers and the concept of the commons repels them.
What they want is billions living short and hard lives that pad their pockets the whole trip.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Regular folks seem to have this belief that corporations and the wealthy that run them are in competition with each other. It's BUNK. Rule One of "The Big Club That We're Not Invited To" is you don't step on a fellow Big Clubber's toes. They're in collusion . . . collusion to "keep those ants in line". One of the ways they keep us ants in line is by doing everything in their power to not GIVE us power.
Instituting Universal Health Care would give employees the power to quit crapola jobs that don't pay dick. It would allow prospective small businesspersons who cannot start up because of health care costs to quit jobs and make their own way. It would remove the practice of ageism. It would force them to pay more, since they wouldn't be able to use the canard of "weelllll, benefits cost us money . . . "
It takes away an employer's bargaining chip and they know it. It's got nothing to do with poor service, salary incentive, lack of doctors, wait times, etc. They need to get OFF that. Only an idiot buys these excuses.
CEOs don't want a "Win-Win" on this issue. They don't want to provide health care, but they don't want proles getting it from his tax dollars either. They think that's the same thing as them providing it.
dawg
(10,624 posts)That's the reason for every mysterious mystery in this country. Following the money will always lead you to the truth.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)however, I don't believe they even think that far ahead. With them it's a matter of keeping the majority of the wealth within a small circle of cronies. The rest of us can be useful to them, but are otherwise disposable. This is why they have no conscience when it comes to profiting from wars. Even back when we had a draft, they figured out ways to keep their children from serving while everyone else's became cannon fodder.
Actually they may get their wish of a plague. I see us heading for one of some sort or the other. I think climate change might mutate and evolve some nasty virus out there that has been benign up until now. But because of their lack of thinking ahead, they don't realize that a plague is equal opportunity in whom it attacks. It could be them and their children as well as the rest of us whom it selects will or will not die from it.