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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:48 PM Apr 2013

Surprised At Speed Of Gay Marriage? Pot Legalization Is Next

HUNTER WALKER APRIL 2, 2013, 2:00 PM
With the Supreme Court now at least considering a definitive statement in favor of gay marriage and support for marriage equality now practically a litmus test issue for Democratic politicians, Americans across the political spectrum are expressing surprise at how rapidly this once marginalized idea became something like a national consensus. Though equality remains law in fewer than a dozen states and no one is holding their breath to get gay married in Alabama or Arkansas, everybody gets that the debate is largely over. Even archconservative thought leader Rush Limbaugh has admitted it’s only a matter of time. But if you were surprised at how quickly marriage equality happened, get ready for another shock: pot’s going to be legal too. The same demographic and cultural changes that propelled marriage equality to majority status are already pushing support for legal pot to the same place.

TPM analyzed all available, nationwide polling data on the questions of full marijuana legalization and marriage equality for the past 18 years and found public opinion on the two issues has taken a nearly identical trajectory. In the mid-1990’s, average public support and opposition for both marriage equality and marijuana legalization was at fairly similar levels. In 1995, 25 percent of those polled supported marijuana legalization while 73 percent opposed it. One year later, 27 percent of people polled backed marriage equality while 68 percent were against it. Over the next decade and change support for both marriage equality and marijuana legalization grew to similar levels. Currently, an average of 50.6 percent of people polled this year support gay marriage and 42.6 percent oppose it. The most recent polling on marijuana legalization is from last year and shows average support at 48.5 percent and average opposition at 48 percent.

Though marijuana legalization is slightly behind marriage equality in terms of public opinion, it has enjoyed a steadier climb along the way to earning the support of nearly half the country. As the accompanying chart shows, backing and opposition to marriage equality has undergone some dramatic dips and peaks over the last seventeen years. On the other hand, support for marijuana legalization has simply moved, pardon the pun, higher and higher each year. This could be an indication marijuana legalization may enjoy an even smoother ride to ultimate approval than marriage equality.

TPM spoke with activists working on both issues and they identified several reasons marijuana legalization may have a less bumpy road along the way to earning nationwide support. Erik Altieri, a spokesman for the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, a pro-marijuana lobbying group, said a major factor behind this may be legalizations natural appeal among some conservatives and libertarians who see it as a civil liberties issue.

more:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/marriage-equalitymarijuana-legalization.php?ref=fpb

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Surprised At Speed Of Gay Marriage? Pot Legalization Is Next (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2013 OP
I'm also really hoping in the next couple of years we'll drop the charade Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #1
My life plan... Malik Agar Apr 2013 #4
The only reason we haven't is because Florida is a swing state. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #14
Send Major League Baseball, first thing Mopar151 Apr 2013 #17
It was reported that in Colorado 50,000 more people voted to legalize than voted for Pres Obama. Scuba Apr 2013 #2
The cynical part of me rises, unbidden. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #3
Not so much a distraction from OWS as ... Myrina Apr 2013 #5
Corporate pot dangin Apr 2013 #8
That didn't work with tobacco, did it? randome Apr 2013 #12
tobacco corps still have big profits. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #21
Yeah, the way it's being pushed in the US is all wrong. harmonicon Apr 2013 #16
I remember posting something like this when the whole Occupy thing.... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #18
I hope to see this happen! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #6
I pray that in my lifetime Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #7
Amen to that. pamela Apr 2013 #10
Amen warrior1 Apr 2013 #13
I just hope we don't end up with a President Rand Paul EC Apr 2013 #9
To not support it, Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #11
It's about time! Or past time but hurray for today! In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #15
I've had a migraine for 8 out of the last 12 days, so I hope it is legal Kurovski Apr 2013 #19
Well past 'bout fucking time. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #20

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. I'm also really hoping in the next couple of years we'll drop the charade
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:50 PM
Apr 2013

and normalize trade relations with Cuba...

 

Malik Agar

(102 posts)
4. My life plan...
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 03:05 PM
Apr 2013

1. get some $ and investors
2. Open a casino and beach resort in Cuba
3. have the embargo end
4. ?????
5. profit

Mopar151

(9,978 posts)
17. Send Major League Baseball, first thing
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:32 PM
Apr 2013

The Havana Rollers???? They have talent for sure, plenty of history, and an old fireballer who should throw out the first pitch. Great icebreaker for tourisim, spring training, fantasy camps....

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
3. The cynical part of me rises, unbidden.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:55 PM
Apr 2013

To what extent is the progress on cultural issues a bone being thrown to distract from the fundamental structural issues raised by OWS.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
5. Not so much a distraction from OWS as ...
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 03:08 PM
Apr 2013

... a set up for "yes it will be legal but Lilly, Pfizer or Monsanto will own the patent and you must buy their brand OTC" .... in other words, someone's gonna make a shit ton of money, and it won't be any local grower/seller.

dangin

(148 posts)
8. Corporate pot
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:31 PM
Apr 2013

You bet. However imagine the new vibe to farmers markets. Get some killer fresh veggies, and some killer weed. Individuals with consistent grow operations will be able to compete. Cloning high quality plants is simple.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
21. tobacco corps still have big profits.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 05:58 AM
Apr 2013

Gallup released a report Wednesday afternoon showing a decline in American cigarette Smoking. At the same time, tobacco companies are reporting great profits and trading stocks at all-time highs.

“Tobacco Companies …have provided investors good returns over the last couple of years,” says financial blog Seeking Alpha, adding, “Over the last 2 years, the shares of all these tobacco companies have rallied over more than 50 percent.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/23/smoking-down-as-tobacco-profits-soar/


The anti-tobacco suits were a tool of market consolidation & control.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
16. Yeah, the way it's being pushed in the US is all wrong.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 05:36 PM
Apr 2013

Some countries - the Czech Republic, for instance - have what I consider to be sensible laws about marijuana. I'm going from memory here, so I may not be completely correct, but I think it's legal to use, and legal to grow your own. It is in theory illegal to sell and manufacture for sale. I'm disturbed when people cheer on capitalisms embrace of recreational drug use, for so many reasons.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
18. I remember posting something like this when the whole Occupy thing....
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:51 PM
Apr 2013

was going on. It's the next sop. They'll give on social issues to distract from the economic ones. It IS another support for the theory that OWS scared (or maybe startled would be a better word) the owners though.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
7. I pray that in my lifetime
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:15 PM
Apr 2013

to see this happen. As a retired woman with serious health issues, it would be a joy to be able to obtain the kind herb without fear.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
10. Amen to that.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:46 PM
Apr 2013

I'm traveling across the Southwest and was afraid to carry any. Plus, I don't know anyone in these states so no chance of getting any safely. I'm in my fifties and also have issues that only pot seems to help. It makes me cry that I can't get some safely and legally. What's the harm? It's crazy.

EC

(12,287 posts)
9. I just hope we don't end up with a President Rand Paul
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:37 PM
Apr 2013

because he'll support it and the Dems will not. I hope we have forward looking Dems on this. So far all I've seen were pols that laugh and say no.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
11. To not support it,
Reply to EC (Reply #9)
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 05:04 PM
Apr 2013

no matter who get's it to happen, would be ridiculous and stupid. I seriously doubt proponents of medical cannabis would care. I know I wouldn't if I could openly buy it and use it without secretly hiding it, to relieve the pain, etc.

Our health should not be a political issue. But that's only in an ideal world (rather only in the US).

Anyway, I believe that Dems are far more reasonable and willing to compromise, than rethugs are. Especially, on an issue like this, where a huge majority of people, from both sides, want it decriminalized.

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