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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you had a choice to live in only red states, which one would you select and why?
Just imagine that you can only select hard coded red states to live in (no swing states)...which one will you select and why?
MadHound
(34,179 posts)Missouri is naturally beautiful, not to mention I was born and raised here. Deep roots and all that. Besides, the state has a few pockets of sanity, though you could pay me to live anywhere south of I-70 corridor.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)New Orleans
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)But I am here as an insurgent to destroy the red hordes of ignorance and bring this State back to it's Blue roots.
Joel thakkar
(363 posts)newfie11
(8,159 posts)Friendliest folks around in spite of being repugs.
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)Most of my family lives there--the non-wingnuts. It's also a beautiful place, I love hot-and-dry, and I don't think it's hopelessly "red".
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Iggo
(47,547 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)as a liberal atheist in Utah, this achieves that exhilaration. The beauty, seasons, jobs, family and lifestyle doesn't hurt either.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)we all are, or soon will be, Red States.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Right, Vols?
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)and I like it just fine here in the mountains.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)but I 100% agree with you!
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)And given the current climate of idiocy from the Right, I'd bet on 1,000,000 voters with $10, rather than 10 voters with $1,000,000. But maybe that's just me
Marr
(20,317 posts)The DLC/Third Way is 100% corporate, and they've been diligently working to push all traditional Democrats to the periphery for ages now. Look at what Obama did before he was even inaugurated. His appointments were basically a neon sign aimed at Wall Street and the Democratic Party in general that said, 'Corporate Toadies Only, Populists Need Not Apply'.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)The million people with $10 will not. At least-- not when those policies conflict with the wishes of the ten people with $1,000,000.
So yes, as the political scene exists today, I think betting on those ten is an extremely safe bet. Whether their paid stooge has a D or an R after his name makes little difference to anyone besides those who follow politics as a sort of sport, and enjoy cheering for their "team".
forestpath
(3,102 posts)AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)Republicans not so much.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Live with righties in control of everything? Not a chance.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Maybe NOLA.
I guess I could live in Atlanta, but I'd hate it like poison. Maybe coastal South Carolina, Charleston? I could live in Louisville, KY. Nice town, Kentucky notwithstanding. Could never live out west Mountain time or in the Southwest - no way on that. Outside of major liberal urban areas in the South would also be no good for me - I don't care for the culture, and I don't want my kids raised in it. Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma: no way, never. I don't even like to visit, truth be told. Couldn't handle it.
mainer
(12,022 posts)and Jackson Hole is a nice purple dot in a red state.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Have family there.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)But it would be hard to transition from crazy lefty liberal Calif to somewhere else
sadbear
(4,340 posts)All except Fort Worth.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)always vote, unfortunately.
Houston is blue, as well. Austin is.
The economy is pretty good in Texas, no state income tax, and the cost of living in most TX cities is below the nat'l avg a bit. So it's been good to me. But beautiful it isn't (to me).
sadbear
(4,340 posts)Yeah, most everything east of the Hill Country is not beautiful.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)and there still are family members living there. The scenery is pretty and the winters aren't that bad. I haven't seen it in many years though and I've heard a lot more people moved there since.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Particularly along the I-540 corridor and the 71-Business corridor. Benton and Washington counties together have around 250,000 population, with most of that concentrated along the corridor from Fayetteville up through Bella Vista.
The closer you go to the Oklahoma border, or the Missouri border outside of the Bella Vista area, or the other side of Beaver Lake, the less things have changed.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)as well as aesthetically pleasing and I have an appetite for the far out and different and aesthetically pleasing
RC
(25,592 posts)-40°F keeps out the riff raff. 44 years experience here.
(It is only the home grown variety that needs worrying about. And it is the home grown ones that cause the problems in the Bakken in the first place.)
The coldest temperature I ever experienced was in Minot. People sure do love to snuggle there too.
RC
(25,592 posts)I had no way to plug my car in. It started, after sitting outside all night.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Now if I'd only thought of antifreeze wiper fluid when I drove through there in January.
RC
(25,592 posts)Some of the sell stuff they sell down here good to +20. +20°, really? It got so cold it froze? In KCMO?
The stuff I bought in ND still worked at 20° below. It may froze on the windshield if the defrosters wasn't throwing out enough heat yet. But it still sprayed the windshield at well below zero.
From then on I look closer at the label.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)They had a ridiculous amount of salt on the freeway. I had to pull off at every exit to wipe it off. I almost rear-ended... a salt truck. I was not happy.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)We moved to Philadelphia when I was five.
But I've always loved snow...and I don't get enough of it in Southeastern PA.
A family of North Dakota Democrats, too.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)Reason: Arkansas fell into the majority control of the GOP last November.
subterranean
(3,427 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)It is solidly in the hands of the Republicans. They are in the process of dismantling and destroying everything. Of course we can hope they overreach so much that it will swing the other way, but it will be years before that happens and the damage will be incalculable.
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)The latest crap about the Constitution not applying--and NC can declare a state religion--
OMG what a bunch of idiots. Total fascist, theocratic, hateful, bigoted, a$$holes.
They are going to destroy the state.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I really wish his term was over already. I was already sick of him when he was still mayor of Charlotte. I certainly am beyond sick of him now. He's a crackpot, not fit to lead anything. He ran with that Jessie Helms crowd and it shows. Everything that passes across his desk that is extremist right wing idiocy, he will sign. I dread the rest of his term.
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)Not since the 2010--and now 2102--elections.
With the gerrymandering, the election of McCrory...and NO
possibility of recall...things are looking very bad for the next 4 years.
And the problem is, that it takes very little time to destroy something
that took years to build.
Very sad.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)And there's always the People's Republic of Austin, as the Red-Dirt Rednecks from Deep East Texas call it!
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wryter2000
(46,032 posts)I'd have to have air conditioning everywhere, though. After 40 years in the SF Bay Area, I can't take heat and humidity. But I sure do love Austin.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)unblock
(52,184 posts)though with any luck and strong immigration, it may well be a blue state by then!
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)I'd just leave the country.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Always loved the place, and have a lot of friends there...
I guess I could make do in Phoenix, as well if I had to...
NBachers
(17,098 posts)But it sure would be hard to leave San Francisco.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)..........anything redder would probably do me in.
DFW
(54,335 posts)Familiar territory, relatively low cost of living, easy air transport to everywhere, and LOTS of D friends!!
On the other hand, if and when I'm ever done with my posting overseas, I'll probably settle in Massachusetts, since it's the part of the States my wife (who is German) feels most at home in.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)is around a point below the national average. Western Massachusetts is less expensive and pretty liberal.
DFW
(54,335 posts)Parts of Boston and suburbs are very pricey, but to the west, prices get a lot more reasonable, though probably not like Texas. I haven't really researched it in detail, as it hasn't been an imminently looming decision, but it's something that will have to be addressed if and when I ever really confront the decision. Still, how much more expensive than Germany can it be?
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)300,000 for 4 Bedroom House. Gas is 3.60 a gal right now. Annual Property taxes avg around 4,500 to 5,500. State income tax is 5.3%. No sales tax on food or clothing.
Western part of Ma, 2 hours outside Boston has a fair amount of reasonable priced homes. Interior SE like Carver, Plympton, Halifax, and Middleboro are pretty cheap. Plymouth is affordable. Once you go over the bridges to the Cape there is an invisible toll (inside joke) for the cost of everything.
Semi Urban Quincy, Braintree, Weymouth on the South Shore has some bargains to be had.
Peabody, Malden, Melrose are nice up North of the City.
Cohassett, Duxbury, Norwell, Hingham on the South Shore will be expensive
Weston, Wellesley, Dover, Sherborne, and Sharon will be expensive Metro-West
Nahant, Beverly, Rockport, Marblehead will be expensive in the North Shore.
Marthas Vinyard and Nantucket, Super Rich for the most part
City Rents are crazy 1 Bedroom in Brighton will run you 1,500/mo minimum.
cordelia
(2,174 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)I see a lot of people praising a lot of areas many liberals would discount as Red States.
Quite frankly, I find the responses refreshing.
My take.
I think Utah is beautiful, the most national parks of any state. But, my choice would be AZ, probably near Tucson. It's a great place to set up an amateur astronomical observatory.
I lived in Wichita, KS for 18 years. That was okay, too, but Dems held the governorship back then.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)mentioned.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)Couldn't wait to get out of TX as a kid and couldn't wait to get out of VA back in the 80s. I grieved when job circumstances moved me from NY to VA and rejoiced when I moved from VA to CT. I'm so happy here and my kids are in MA, NYC and CA. They are all confirmed blue staters...
SteveG
(3,109 posts)Blue county in a red state. Beautiful city.
But I already live at the Beach in DE, where my vote counts.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)So pretty.
lovely city and people
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)We spent a week there, last Summer.
Great food, music and bars.
Did I mention the architecture and history?
But I think I will stay in Sonoma.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Do you know anything about SCAD? (Savannah College of Art and Design)
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Really, I thought about it and can't really come up with a "compromise" state. At the end of the day I'm less than thrilled by living in the border/purple/swing state in which I currently reside, Florida.
But the golfing is good.
P.S. I presume NVA doesn't count as a "red" state these days.
JHB
(37,158 posts)If you have to live in a Warsaw Pact state, you might as well do it in Prague.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)Because I'd want to live in New Orleans.
mimi85
(1,805 posts)Best vacation we ever had was in NOLA. And I don't even drink! Granted, vacations are a lot different from living somewhere, but we loved the diversity, the architecture, the food (of course), the art, the MUSIC (some of the best ever anywhere). (insert some killer sax).
Not sure how I would deal with some of the overt racism we witnessed (we stayed in the French Quarter, of course) and pretty much the only people of color we saw were working in the hotels, on Bourbon Street in the clubs, on street corners making music or in Jackson Square. Driving through some of the horribly poor neighborhoods was an eye opener - not used to that kind of segregation here. And the weather sucks unless it's March or October - I don't do well with humidity.
Though being a California native, the weather would no doubt be a factor just about anywhere. I'd give just about anything right now for a cup of java from the Cafe Du Monde and a beignet. Yum!! If MHP can make it there, so could I.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . meaning, there are times where we come to our senses (Sherrod Brown, Marcy Kaptur, President Obama) . . . . aaaaaaaaand there are times where we put cockbags like Mike Dewine, Rob Portman, Bob Taft, John Kat$hit and the Failure Fuhrer in office.
So should I stay here and keep up the good fight or stay and possibly put my head in my palms in 2014 and 2016?
LeftInTX
(25,224 posts)The weather is not too cold or not too hot. They also have adequate natural resources and rainfall. They aren't too red either.
I'm in San Antonio, Texas. Politically, the city is good, but the weather is too hot and we're always in a drought.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)think "yeah, I'd move back to Dallas in a heartbeat"...
But sometimes I wonder if I'm just being nostalgic and thinking I can live there as I did in my youth with no worries and easy access to Dallas Cowboys games and the Rangers Ballpark. I left Dallas over 30 years ago and have been back only twice and thoroughly enjoyed both trips as much as I could given the circumstances (one a funeral and the other a week long training session for work) but I wonder if long-term living there would begin to wear on me.
I dunno but I bet it wouldn't be hard to convince me to give it a try.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)But it's pretty vanilla here...kind of blah, if you ask me. With exceptions: The Dallas Summer Musicals, an occasional interesting museum event, lots of movies. There are lots of restaurants, but there are lots of restaurants everywhere, and I'm not a food guru. Lots of sports events, but I hate sports. It's pretty clean, for a biggish city.
It now has a rail system, so that's good.
But teh pay is decent, the attractions mentioned above, cost of living is reasonable, getting around in traffic isn't bad, two great airports.
The soil is terrible (I'd like to garden, but can't, really. I'll have to move to do that.) Droughts...brown grass...water shortages...extreme heat (people die here every year from the heat).
Houston is better, IMO. More exciting. Horrible traffic, though. Great soil and weather (lots of rain).
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)One of them being all my friends from my teen years are there - plus one of my brothers (I never get to see any of my brothers).
On a whim I looked at some house listings in my old town and couldn't believe the size of the houses I could get for what my house here is worth - some triple the sq feet of my current house and in the nice neighborhoods I wasn't even allowed to visit back then. (lol, nobody barred me from visiting there - I just didn't know anyone there so there was no point in going). Not Highland Park nice but still nicer than the places I lived.
I love to go to metal shows and I know from the tour dates of the bands I keep track of that they often have Dallas gigs so I'd be good there. And I'd love to hit up some SXSW events some day. I'd probably go see some country, jazz and blues clubs if I was there too. Not much of that here.
Plus I LOOOOVE sports and the Cowboys and Rangers are my teams.
Seasons. I think I'd like to see some seasons again. Although I might miss golfing in shorts at Christmas.
Unfortunately my wife's family is all here and she'd be hard pressed to leave them. And I make pretty good money here because I have been at this company a long time and I doubt I'd be able to transfer that to a new place in Dallas. Maybe some day though.
Last year I experimented with gardening in 5 gallon buckets. I didn't get much yield but I learned a lot for my first time and expect to do much better this year. Time to start soon actually. I used a mixture of black kow and potting soil that seemed to work well until I screwed up the watering...that might be a solution for you. I was just after peppers and squash - if you mean to do flower and trees gardening that might not work.
eta~"Unfortunately" for my moving fantasy - not unfortunate that her people are close...that's generally pretty nice.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Low taxes, low cost of living, decent climate, jobs, close to California.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)Nevada voted for Obama both times and Harry Reid lots of times.
If it did, I'd probably end up somewhere near Gerlach, which has pretty much been taken over by Burning Man people.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)The state isn't overburdened with ridiculous laws like California has been for decades.
When you drive from California into Nevada, you can tell by the condition of the road that the state is managed better.
kiva
(4,373 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Economically the best place to be for someone like me is probably Texas, or Tennessee. But I couldn't take the culture.
hack89
(39,171 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I live here now, in a town called Missoula, which is a very liberal college town. I love Missoula, but I will probably move back to Portland, Oregon in a few years.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I was born in Montana, moved to Washington State when I was five, but spent time each summer with Grandma and Grandpa on Higgins Street. There was a theater across the street, (maybe the Roxy?) Went with Grandpa to watch the Missoula Timberjacks right down the street on summer nights and he could do a cigar without Grandma scolding him! He took my brother and I fishing on the beautiful Bitterroot River by Hamilton
My other Grandpa taught me to trout fish on Spring Creek at Lewistown. We ate trout for dinner every other night. Loved it.
Love that BIG SKY and the Gallatin River area is breathtakingly beautiful!
But....too cold and long winters and too far from the Pacific Ocean, that has my heart now.
There are NO red states on the Left Coast!
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Our four seasons are almost winter, winter, still winter, and construction.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)irisblue
(32,961 posts)I will NOT stay in Ohio. Weather is awful in the winter.
ceile
(8,692 posts)Cities are blue and the rest of state will be purple shortly. It's beautiful and the people (for the most part) are truly kind hearted. Only draw back is the summer. A Texas summer can kill someone who is not acclimated.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Nashville (i.e Nash-Vegas) wasn't too bad either. I could see myself being comfortable there.
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Another "let's belittle the red state folks" thread "those poor things".
woodsprite
(11,910 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)Someday I may go back, because it's also inexpensive and unlike the PNW, you can drive a very short distance and be in an entirely different culture. And you can fish and grow the world's best tomatoes while listening to some kick-ass local music and having the neighbors over for a crawfish boil.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)I love Utah-- it's beautiful and the people seem friendly. Great mountain biking, camping, etc. Took a long kayak trip there a few years back that was just amazing.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Moab is awesome
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)I couldn't ask for nicer neighbors, or prettier mountain views.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)below.
The weather is warmer than most of the country, and there is a lot of open space and amazing natural beauty.
Yeah, there are way too many neanderthals still roaming here, but they are on the way to becoming extinct.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,166 posts)In other words, some place closest to the geography and climate of my very purple home state, Florida.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)I love Montana. The politics on the other hand....
Tikki
(14,556 posts)Tikki
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)quite red
texas is redder than arterial blood, but austin is a very blue city
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)For many years I lived in a bright blue dot in blood red Idaho and wouldn't go back for a million dollars.
I love my mountains and the seasons and if I had to, I'd pick western Montana, but on the whole I'd rather be in Canada.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I love the ocean.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,166 posts)Our legislature, thanks to the magic of gerrymandering, is bright red.
talkingmime
(2,173 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)If forced, I would choose Arizona or even a city in Texas over a mamba bite, any day.
talkingmime
(2,173 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)If you consider Florida to be red, then Florida is currently number one for me. That is where I live, and I love it. Nationally it is a swing state. Locally it has some of the reddest areas you will find in the country.
murray hill farm
(3,650 posts)It is where I live now...in a very rural area. Wherever you live, you will always find like minded folks..and more than one would think.
sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)murray hill farm
(3,650 posts)about 2 miles outside of the little town of Cove, Arkansas (population less than 400). Cove is about 15 miles south of Mena. I hear you guys have an active UU congregation up there in Fayetteville. I miss that, but love Arkansas and have been here for about 5 years.
4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)This is a nature lover's paradise. There is no where in the state where you aren't within 30 minutes of a state park. We live within 45 minutes of 3 amazing TVA lakes. I've learned to fit in quite well with the natives, while still being a Liberal.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The economy was bad, though. High cost of living, low wages, not many jobs. But that was a looooong time ago, so maybe it's different now.
IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I live in a totally red county in North Georgia, but I love it here. The weather is perfect. Summer only lasts a few months with extreme heat, which is a hell of a lot better than the year-round heat when I lived in South Florida.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I have always lived in the bluest cities in the bluest states and I could never handle living in a red state. I would go insane.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)to visit. But if I had no choice, I would like for a blue city or blue county in a red state.
Arkansas Granny
(31,514 posts)It just turned deep red in the last election and I hope it's a temporary condition.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)during the 2012 election. So right-wing republican craziness has it's benefits. And right now, Arkansas is pretty damned crazy under a republican legislature.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)I'd emigrate before living in a red state.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I think there are actually fewer than people might think.
Personally I like living in Virginia -- I'm originally From NY.
I ask this because I think a lot of people believe NYS is a seriously blue state, they would be surprised at the amount of red voters that live there.
NY, once you get out of the metro areas is an awful lot like Virginia once one gets out of the NOVA region.
Massachusetts elected Scott Brown -- and Mass is one of the bluest of the blue states.
Having lived in Atlanta, I would say the same about Georgia. I would venture to say that there are very few states that are hard coded as RED.
Peace,
Raine
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)While earning a living, those things are very important, of course. But for later years, Virginia or the Carolinas or Georgia might be nice....very pretty there (at least the pics I've seen are).
Louisiana is beautiful (where I'm from), but the economy is awful. Baton Rouge and around there might be nice.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)BainsBane
(53,029 posts)because Austin is great, or at least it was while I was in grad school there.
demwing
(16,916 posts)without a doubt, one of the most beautiful places in America. Mountains, forests, rivers, lakes, deserts, and seasons.
Oh yeah, and the best Halloweens ever. Perfect weather, kids everywhere, "haunted" corn mazes, and lots of old ghost towns.
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)I grew up in the Air Force until my Dad retired and we settled in Utah. I've lived in many states and a couple of foreign countries but I love the diversity of the terrain in Utah and don't ever want to live where there are no mountains again. By the way, my parents were raised in a town nestled in a narrow canyon that is now a ghost town in Carbon County. I love the history associated with those little ghost towns.
babylonsister
(171,054 posts)I lived in Houston, TX. So.... This choice at the time was made because of the economy and climate, not politics.
It's called survival; it's been okay, except when it's not. There are a lot of 'damned Yankees' down here, and a lot of really nice locals; politics don't matter, and you can't pick your friends that way. I consider it growing up for me, but I do make my politics known. Sheeet flies sometimes!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)fishwax
(29,149 posts)as long as I had some control over the circumstances, of course. Texas (for the cities); Wyoming and Montana (for the mountains); and Arizona (for family). Most of the other states have at least a few places I wouldn't mind living (Atlanta/Savannah in Georgia, New Orleans in Louisiana, and so on).
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Good parts there. Then maybe New Orleans Louisiana.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)...red, but with pockets of deep blue scattered from the west to the east. Gotta love our beautiful, green mountains. But if old north is considered a swing state, I'd say my old home state of Tennessee.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)I would live in Texas, considering that it is a red state on the verge of becoming purple. But I wouldn't mind visiting states like Idaho and Montana. I never hear much about either of them.
politicat
(9,808 posts)1) I can tolerate libertarian cons better than theo-cons. Wyoming tends more towards the live and let live side.
2) Small population so there's a much better chance of getting into state politics than in the old-guard red states.
3) Other than oil and gas, Wyoming's major industry is the environment, so the lib-cons tend to be more willing to protect the land and can be convinced to do so if they think it's in their best interest.
4) Lots of middle of nowhere left, so putting up with the conservatives becomes more optional. If I have to live with them, I want a few square miles between me and them.
5) It's gorgeous.
6) There's room to start a punk/industrial/goth festival (on the lines of Burning Man, but without the heat or the alkaline dust.) Lib-cons tend to be better than theo-cons about accepting that freak money spends just fine.
7) Wind power. You know how Wyoming got settled? The pioneers were just waiting for the wind to stop blowing.
donco
(1,548 posts)I'll stay in the show-me and help turn it blue again instead of running with my tail between my legs.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)I have a lot of good memories and a bunch of cousins living there and I visit every 3 or 4 years.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Can't beat the Colorado Plateau.
I'd move from Oregon in a heartbeat if I could.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)If I had to move to another place, I guess I'd look at Montana, possibly Alaska, MAYBE Tennessee, definitely North Carolina if it is considered red.
Mz Pip
(27,435 posts)I want to be on a coast so that eliminates many of the Red states. I would probably like the coast and the beaches.
Cayenneman
(10 posts)I pick Louisiana. Indigenous American Culture (Jazz, Cajun food, Zydeco).
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)I live in PA, we vote solidly Democratic in presidential elections but this state is blood red when it comes to state politics. Both houses and the governor are teabagging imbeciles. Is this a red state or a blue state? I'd argue that on the whole this is a red state and by quite a bit.
Idaho looks like a beautiful state though.
SmileyRose
(4,854 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Hey, it ain't all bad here; we've got chunks of the D/FW area(particularly Dallas itself), Houston, College Station/Bryan, El Paso, Laredo, San Antonio(where the Alamo is), and of course, Austin.(though I'll grant you that Wichita Falls, Tyler, and Abilene are probably as red as the devil himself.....Lubbock might be okay though, since it's home to Texas Tech)
Sgent
(5,857 posts)Of course I live in New Orleans now, and grew up in Mississippi, so I'm a little more used to the southern eccentricities.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I live in a red area in a blue state.
I don't carry a list of red and blue states in my head, so I'm not sure what "red" state I would choose. I like the Pacific NW. If I had to leave, I'd probably go to Canada.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Less population in general.
Warpy
(111,237 posts)so I'd have to pick AZ, probably Tucson. It was second on my list but I liked NM better when I flew out from Boston to check it all out.
The heat would be tough to deal with. I'd probably do all my shopping online or at all night groceries. My electric bill would be astronomical.
However, I'd be working to kick that state to the left. As I've gotten old and grey and mellowed a bit, I've gotten better at it, so it wouldn't be a total loss.
TygrBright
(20,756 posts)Rather like the area round Tierra Amarilla/Chama. And it's "bluer" than Phoenix, though not as blue as Tucson. If I were condemned to live in AZ I'd have my regular home in Flagstaff and try to afford a vacation cottage in Bisbee, which is another extremely neat place but not during the summer.
helpfully,
Bright
Warpy
(111,237 posts)I think I'd likely do best in Tucson.
TygrBright
(20,756 posts)If we could just root up & destroy every juniper north of Belen, El Norte would be practically perfect as far as climate and natural conditions go. And food. And music. And weirditudinousness of culture.
Politics... not so much.
wryly,
Bright
Warpy
(111,237 posts)My problem is mulberry and I've got one of the damned things in my front yard.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I love the wilderness and Idaho north of and including the Frank Church Wilderness has plenty of that. I'm partial to the panhandle and if you go out in the woods far enough, you don't have to spend that much time with people. The big problem is the lack of community services if you need them. You pretty much are at the mercy of the churches and the lack of regulations in businesses. Or attention to repairs, like if a bridge washes out, it takes years to repair it if at all. But the locals will keep voting for the mining and lumber interests in order to keep their guns and their freedom from govmint.