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If you had a choice to live in only red states, which one would you select and why? (Original Post) Joel thakkar Apr 2013 OP
Missouri, the one I live in now, MadHound Apr 2013 #1
Louisiana bluedigger Apr 2013 #2
Roger that! KamaAina Apr 2013 #158
Alaska. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #3
Best of luck! Hope alaska will be blue soon n/t Joel thakkar Apr 2013 #16
Here in western Nebraska newfie11 Apr 2013 #4
Arizona GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #5
Same here. Arizona will be blue soon, so I wouldn't have to suffer for long. nt bluestate10 Apr 2013 #110
Not a fucking chance. Iggo Apr 2013 #6
Swimming against the tide can be exhilarating Sheepshank Apr 2013 #7
With the takeover of the Democratic Party by corporatists, woo me with science Apr 2013 #8
+1 Go Vols Apr 2013 #14
We already live in the prettiest red state. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #24
I have lived all over the country Go Vols Apr 2013 #38
I don't know about GoVols, Sissyk Apr 2013 #40
Because that worked out so well for Koch's and Rove in 2008 and 2012? Sheepshank Apr 2013 #22
Well, if you buy both parties, the country might as well be solidly red. Marr Apr 2013 #66
so I presume you're betting on the 10 people with $1,000,000? n/t Sheepshank Apr 2013 #68
The ten people with $1,000,000 will see their policies enacted, yes. Marr Apr 2013 #73
+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #53
Democrats Support Separation of Church and State AndyTiedye Apr 2013 #76
I'll take the suicide option instead. 99Forever Apr 2013 #9
+1 JustAnotherGen Apr 2013 #29
I Wouldn't, But They'd Probably Kill Me AndyTiedye Apr 2013 #84
Alaska. Only 1.2 assholes per square mile. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #10
Probably Austin, Texas alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #11
Wyoming's stunningly beautiful mainer Apr 2013 #12
Utah el_bryanto Apr 2013 #13
I might survive in Austin, Texas. n/t Ian David Apr 2013 #15
the one with the best weather - most like california Liberal_in_LA Apr 2013 #17
Most of the major cities in Texas are pretty blue. sadbear Apr 2013 #18
I live in Dallas. Lots of reds here, but the city itself votes blue often...but the Dems don't Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #99
I would live in or near San Antonio in a heartbeat. sadbear Apr 2013 #126
Northwest Arkansas - that's where my dad was from aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2013 #19
Things have changed a lot in NWArk Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #128
probably Alaska - because politics aside, it sounds like something far out and different Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #20
North Dakota RC Apr 2013 #21
Damned right ! yesphan Apr 2013 #54
The coldest temperature I have ever experienced was -43° in Bismarck. RC Apr 2013 #58
Got to have Heet. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #74
I'm used to buying windshield washer fluid good down to -20° or better. RC Apr 2013 #82
I was fine until I got to Minneapolis, Minnesota. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #86
I was born in Minot! Demoiselle Apr 2013 #117
If you only had a choice to not region-bash, why would you still do it? Fawke Em Apr 2013 #23
I chose NW Arkansas in 1992. Now, I'd probably go back to North Carolina. sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #25
So did North Carolina :-( subterranean Apr 2013 #78
I think NC will swing blue in the next few years. Not Arkansas. sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #85
Not if the current crop of cretins has their way. alarimer Apr 2013 #94
Yes. It is becoming more embarrassing every day to be a resident of NC. mnhtnbb Apr 2013 #150
McCrory is the worst governor in NC in my lifetime. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #157
Living in Chapel Hill since 2000 we've been able to avoid NC red stuff. mnhtnbb Apr 2013 #165
Texas! Our cities are blue, diverse and liberal. Zen Democrat Apr 2013 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #33
Also love Austin wryter2000 Apr 2013 #80
wisconsin madrchsod Apr 2013 #27
austin, texas, without a doubt. we might even retire here. unblock Apr 2013 #28
:P abelenkpe Apr 2013 #30
I'd move to Kansas City in a heartbeat Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #31
Florida- Is Florida a red state? I'm an ex-Miami resident; I wouldn't mind going back there. NBachers Apr 2013 #32
Massachusetts TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #34
Probably stay in Texas DFW Apr 2013 #35
I have the impression that Massachusetts is really expensive to live in. Is it? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #100
Eastern and central Massachusetts are pricey, but salaries are also high and the UE rate bluestate10 Apr 2013 #115
Depends on where DFW Apr 2013 #125
It is, but I think they trade of is worth it Marrah_G Apr 2013 #155
Fairly 4Q2u2 Apr 2013 #160
Another divisive region bashing thread. Why? cordelia Apr 2013 #36
I do not see too many bashing responses. longship Apr 2013 #45
It's not by regions. It's by political party. Wyoming, Utah, and other non-south red states are Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #102
I have lived in 2 and left them as soon as I could. CTyankee Apr 2013 #37
Savanah, Georgia SteveG Apr 2013 #39
I love that town. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #41
ditto TeamPooka Apr 2013 #71
My pick too XRubicon Apr 2013 #112
I love Savannah DollarBillHines Apr 2013 #131
My son is thinking about college in Savannah demwing Apr 2013 #145
SCAD has a fantastic reputation. mnhtnbb Apr 2013 #151
None zipplewrath Apr 2013 #42
Czechoslovakia JHB Apr 2013 #43
Prague is a beautiful city. nt bluestate10 Apr 2013 #116
Louisiana Louisiana1976 Apr 2013 #44
Me too mimi85 Apr 2013 #139
I live in a "Purple" state . . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #46
Missouri or North Carolina LeftInTX Apr 2013 #47
When I see a question like this I often OriginalGeek Apr 2013 #48
I live in Dallas. I moved here for the economy. Dallas has been good to me, financially. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #104
Intangibles OriginalGeek Apr 2013 #121
Nevada or Arizona slackmaster Apr 2013 #49
I'm Not Sure Nevada Counts AndyTiedye Apr 2013 #88
The Nevada state legislature meets for about six weeks every other year slackmaster Apr 2013 #148
Nevada isn't red. kiva Apr 2013 #123
It's about as reddish as I could put up with. slackmaster Apr 2013 #149
Charleston SC. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #50
I'd kill myself. Or move to Canada. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #51
Montana. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #52
I love Missoula! PearliePoo2 Apr 2013 #156
Northern states have a saying: ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #159
Texas. eom Purveyor Apr 2013 #55
i'm looking @ NOLA, Austin or Corpus Christi irisblue Apr 2013 #56
Texas is my home. ceile Apr 2013 #57
I spent some time in Tennessee before. It wasn't that bad. Victor_c3 Apr 2013 #59
Oh joy Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #60
North Carolina or Florida. Why? The beaches! n/t woodsprite Apr 2013 #61
Just where I'm from. Louisiana or Gulf Coast Mississippi. It's beautiful, and incredibly diverse. nolabear Apr 2013 #62
I'll stay here in Texas. n/t tammywammy Apr 2013 #63
Utah. Marr Apr 2013 #64
Parts of Utah are liberal demwing Apr 2013 #107
It's actually great here. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #138
Arizona. California one one side, New Mexico on the other, and Mexico Zorra Apr 2013 #65
Coastal South Carolina or Georgia. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #67
Montana. My family is there and I lived there for 25 years. neverforget Apr 2013 #69
Ya,prob Montana...but rich enough to fly to CA often. Tikki Apr 2013 #129
cities in red states are typically quite blue. my top one would be miami, i consider florida La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #70
Couldn't do it. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #72
If Florida is still considered red, I guess there. At least I'd have nice beaches. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #75
Everything except our legislature is deep purple. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #89
I'd pick death by mamba. talkingmime Apr 2013 #77
Ohhh. That would be a gruesome death. You must surely bleed bright, blue, blue. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #118
Not the snake. I'll PM you. talkingmime Apr 2013 #146
Alaska for the red state. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #79
Arkansas! murray hill farm Apr 2013 #81
What part? I'm in Fayetteville. sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #87
I live on my little goat farm.."Murray HIll Farm" murray hill farm Apr 2013 #122
The one I live in... Tennessee. 4_TN_TITANS Apr 2013 #83
I visited there once for a couple of months. An awesomely beautiful area. It was Chattanooga. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #106
Mississippi IrishEyes Apr 2013 #90
SC....somewhat warm and beaches. ileus Apr 2013 #91
Where I live now in Georgia. RebelOne Apr 2013 #92
Sorry, couldn't do it. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #93
I love my blue state in my blue part of the country. There is a plethora of blue cities bluestate10 Apr 2013 #119
Arkansas, where I am now. Arkansas Granny Apr 2013 #95
New Hampshire went red in the legislature in 2010, then swung back blue in record fashion bluestate10 Apr 2013 #120
Denmark. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #96
What's a 'hard coded' Red State? Raine1967 Apr 2013 #97
Texas, I guess (where I live), because the economy is pretty good, cost of living lower than avg. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #98
Only in Galveston, Texas. The rest is too hot. freshwest Apr 2013 #101
Texas, if I could live in Austin BainsBane Apr 2013 #103
Utah demwing Apr 2013 #105
I'm so happy to see people express some love for Utah on this thread. UtahLib Apr 2013 #143
I had a choice to move anywhere. I live in GA. babylonsister Apr 2013 #108
Alaska, without a doubt, it's gorgeous nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #109
there are several red states I'd be happy to live in fishwax Apr 2013 #111
North Carolina Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #113
North Carolina.... paleotn Apr 2013 #114
I suppose Jamaal510 Apr 2013 #124
Wyoming. politicat Apr 2013 #127
I think that donco Apr 2013 #130
I lived in Tennessee until I was 9 or 10 tularetom Apr 2013 #132
Arizona or Utah duffyduff Apr 2013 #133
I'd stay in the Bluegrass. Chill in the Ville. TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #134
South Carolina Mz Pip Apr 2013 #135
Red State Cayenneman Apr 2013 #136
How do we determine the state color? Presidential or state elections? MrSlayer Apr 2013 #137
I live in Georgia therefore Georgia is purple SmileyRose Apr 2013 #140
The one I'm in, I wouldn't have to move and I was here first. Besides, I hate moving. lonestarnot Apr 2013 #141
Believe it or not, I'd rather stay in Texas. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #142
Austin, New Orleans, or somewhere in the mountains of Tennessee / Carolina's Sgent Apr 2013 #144
I like it where I am. LWolf Apr 2013 #147
Alaska Marrah_G Apr 2013 #152
I've been horribly spoiled by living in the desert Warpy Apr 2013 #153
If you don't actually need DESERT, Flagstaff is a very nice place. TygrBright Apr 2013 #161
I'd like the altitude. I'd hate the snow. Warpy Apr 2013 #163
Tucson is a great town. I'd melt in the summer, though. TygrBright Apr 2013 #164
To tell the truth, my cat is more allergic to juniper than I am Warpy Apr 2013 #166
Idaho. Cleita Apr 2013 #154
Texas or Alaska. TimberValley Apr 2013 #162
 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
1. Missouri, the one I live in now,
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:57 AM
Apr 2013

Missouri is naturally beautiful, not to mention I was born and raised here. Deep roots and all that. Besides, the state has a few pockets of sanity, though you could pay me to live anywhere south of I-70 corridor.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
3. Alaska.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:05 AM
Apr 2013

But I am here as an insurgent to destroy the red hordes of ignorance and bring this State back to it's Blue roots.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
5. Arizona
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:10 AM
Apr 2013

Most of my family lives there--the non-wingnuts. It's also a beautiful place, I love hot-and-dry, and I don't think it's hopelessly "red".

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
7. Swimming against the tide can be exhilarating
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:12 AM
Apr 2013

as a liberal atheist in Utah, this achieves that exhilaration. The beauty, seasons, jobs, family and lifestyle doesn't hurt either.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
22. Because that worked out so well for Koch's and Rove in 2008 and 2012?
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:57 AM
Apr 2013

And given the current climate of idiocy from the Right, I'd bet on 1,000,000 voters with $10, rather than 10 voters with $1,000,000. But maybe that's just me

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
66. Well, if you buy both parties, the country might as well be solidly red.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:10 PM
Apr 2013

The DLC/Third Way is 100% corporate, and they've been diligently working to push all traditional Democrats to the periphery for ages now. Look at what Obama did before he was even inaugurated. His appointments were basically a neon sign aimed at Wall Street and the Democratic Party in general that said, 'Corporate Toadies Only, Populists Need Not Apply'.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
73. The ten people with $1,000,000 will see their policies enacted, yes.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:35 PM
Apr 2013

The million people with $10 will not. At least-- not when those policies conflict with the wishes of the ten people with $1,000,000.

So yes, as the political scene exists today, I think betting on those ten is an extremely safe bet. Whether their paid stooge has a D or an R after his name makes little difference to anyone besides those who follow politics as a sort of sport, and enjoy cheering for their "team".

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
11. Probably Austin, Texas
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:16 AM
Apr 2013

Maybe NOLA.

I guess I could live in Atlanta, but I'd hate it like poison. Maybe coastal South Carolina, Charleston? I could live in Louisville, KY. Nice town, Kentucky notwithstanding. Could never live out west Mountain time or in the Southwest - no way on that. Outside of major liberal urban areas in the South would also be no good for me - I don't care for the culture, and I don't want my kids raised in it. Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma: no way, never. I don't even like to visit, truth be told. Couldn't handle it.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
17. the one with the best weather - most like california
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:45 AM
Apr 2013

But it would be hard to transition from crazy lefty liberal Calif to somewhere else

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
99. I live in Dallas. Lots of reds here, but the city itself votes blue often...but the Dems don't
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:09 PM
Apr 2013

always vote, unfortunately.

Houston is blue, as well. Austin is.

The economy is pretty good in Texas, no state income tax, and the cost of living in most TX cities is below the nat'l avg a bit. So it's been good to me. But beautiful it isn't (to me).

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
126. I would live in or near San Antonio in a heartbeat.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:39 PM
Apr 2013

Yeah, most everything east of the Hill Country is not beautiful.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
19. Northwest Arkansas - that's where my dad was from
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:48 AM
Apr 2013

and there still are family members living there. The scenery is pretty and the winters aren't that bad. I haven't seen it in many years though and I've heard a lot more people moved there since.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
128. Things have changed a lot in NWArk
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:48 PM
Apr 2013

Particularly along the I-540 corridor and the 71-Business corridor. Benton and Washington counties together have around 250,000 population, with most of that concentrated along the corridor from Fayetteville up through Bella Vista.

The closer you go to the Oklahoma border, or the Missouri border outside of the Bella Vista area, or the other side of Beaver Lake, the less things have changed.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
20. probably Alaska - because politics aside, it sounds like something far out and different
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:55 AM
Apr 2013

as well as aesthetically pleasing and I have an appetite for the far out and different and aesthetically pleasing

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
21. North Dakota
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:55 AM
Apr 2013

-40°F keeps out the riff raff. 44 years experience here.

(It is only the home grown variety that needs worrying about. And it is the home grown ones that cause the problems in the Bakken in the first place.)

yesphan

(1,587 posts)
54. Damned right !
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013

The coldest temperature I ever experienced was in Minot. People sure do love to snuggle there too.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
58. The coldest temperature I have ever experienced was -43° in Bismarck.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:34 PM
Apr 2013

I had no way to plug my car in. It started, after sitting outside all night.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
74. Got to have Heet.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:51 PM
Apr 2013


Now if I'd only thought of antifreeze wiper fluid when I drove through there in January.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
82. I'm used to buying windshield washer fluid good down to -20° or better.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:06 PM
Apr 2013

Some of the sell stuff they sell down here good to +20. +20°, really? It got so cold it froze? In KCMO?
The stuff I bought in ND still worked at 20° below. It may froze on the windshield if the defrosters wasn't throwing out enough heat yet. But it still sprayed the windshield at well below zero.
From then on I look closer at the label.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
86. I was fine until I got to Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:19 PM
Apr 2013

They had a ridiculous amount of salt on the freeway. I had to pull off at every exit to wipe it off. I almost rear-ended... a salt truck. I was not happy.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
117. I was born in Minot!
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:46 PM
Apr 2013

We moved to Philadelphia when I was five.
But I've always loved snow...and I don't get enough of it in Southeastern PA.
A family of North Dakota Democrats, too.

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
25. I chose NW Arkansas in 1992. Now, I'd probably go back to North Carolina.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:04 PM
Apr 2013

Reason: Arkansas fell into the majority control of the GOP last November.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
94. Not if the current crop of cretins has their way.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 07:39 PM
Apr 2013

It is solidly in the hands of the Republicans. They are in the process of dismantling and destroying everything. Of course we can hope they overreach so much that it will swing the other way, but it will be years before that happens and the damage will be incalculable.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
150. Yes. It is becoming more embarrassing every day to be a resident of NC.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 03:44 PM
Apr 2013

The latest crap about the Constitution not applying--and NC can declare a state religion--
OMG what a bunch of idiots. Total fascist, theocratic, hateful, bigoted, a$$holes.
They are going to destroy the state.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
157. McCrory is the worst governor in NC in my lifetime.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:06 PM
Apr 2013

I really wish his term was over already. I was already sick of him when he was still mayor of Charlotte. I certainly am beyond sick of him now. He's a crackpot, not fit to lead anything. He ran with that Jessie Helms crowd and it shows. Everything that passes across his desk that is extremist right wing idiocy, he will sign. I dread the rest of his term.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
165. Living in Chapel Hill since 2000 we've been able to avoid NC red stuff.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:43 PM
Apr 2013

Not since the 2010--and now 2102--elections.

With the gerrymandering, the election of McCrory...and NO
possibility of recall...things are looking very bad for the next 4 years.

And the problem is, that it takes very little time to destroy something
that took years to build.

Very sad.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
26. Texas! Our cities are blue, diverse and liberal.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:07 PM
Apr 2013

And there's always the People's Republic of Austin, as the Red-Dirt Rednecks from Deep East Texas call it!

Response to Zen Democrat (Reply #26)

wryter2000

(46,032 posts)
80. Also love Austin
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 03:58 PM
Apr 2013

I'd have to have air conditioning everywhere, though. After 40 years in the SF Bay Area, I can't take heat and humidity. But I sure do love Austin.

unblock

(52,184 posts)
28. austin, texas, without a doubt. we might even retire here.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

though with any luck and strong immigration, it may well be a blue state by then!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
31. I'd move to Kansas City in a heartbeat
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:14 PM
Apr 2013

Always loved the place, and have a lot of friends there...

I guess I could make do in Phoenix, as well if I had to...

NBachers

(17,098 posts)
32. Florida- Is Florida a red state? I'm an ex-Miami resident; I wouldn't mind going back there.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:15 PM
Apr 2013

But it sure would be hard to leave San Francisco.

DFW

(54,335 posts)
35. Probably stay in Texas
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:20 PM
Apr 2013

Familiar territory, relatively low cost of living, easy air transport to everywhere, and LOTS of D friends!!

On the other hand, if and when I'm ever done with my posting overseas, I'll probably settle in Massachusetts, since it's the part of the States my wife (who is German) feels most at home in.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
115. Eastern and central Massachusetts are pricey, but salaries are also high and the UE rate
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:43 PM
Apr 2013

is around a point below the national average. Western Massachusetts is less expensive and pretty liberal.

DFW

(54,335 posts)
125. Depends on where
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:37 PM
Apr 2013

Parts of Boston and suburbs are very pricey, but to the west, prices get a lot more reasonable, though probably not like Texas. I haven't really researched it in detail, as it hasn't been an imminently looming decision, but it's something that will have to be addressed if and when I ever really confront the decision. Still, how much more expensive than Germany can it be?

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
160. Fairly
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:18 PM
Apr 2013

300,000 for 4 Bedroom House. Gas is 3.60 a gal right now. Annual Property taxes avg around 4,500 to 5,500. State income tax is 5.3%. No sales tax on food or clothing.

Western part of Ma, 2 hours outside Boston has a fair amount of reasonable priced homes. Interior SE like Carver, Plympton, Halifax, and Middleboro are pretty cheap. Plymouth is affordable. Once you go over the bridges to the Cape there is an invisible toll (inside joke) for the cost of everything.

Semi Urban Quincy, Braintree, Weymouth on the South Shore has some bargains to be had.
Peabody, Malden, Melrose are nice up North of the City.

Cohassett, Duxbury, Norwell, Hingham on the South Shore will be expensive
Weston, Wellesley, Dover, Sherborne, and Sharon will be expensive Metro-West
Nahant, Beverly, Rockport, Marblehead will be expensive in the North Shore.
Marthas Vinyard and Nantucket, Super Rich for the most part

City Rents are crazy 1 Bedroom in Brighton will run you 1,500/mo minimum.


longship

(40,416 posts)
45. I do not see too many bashing responses.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:39 PM
Apr 2013

I see a lot of people praising a lot of areas many liberals would discount as Red States.

Quite frankly, I find the responses refreshing.

My take.
I think Utah is beautiful, the most national parks of any state. But, my choice would be AZ, probably near Tucson. It's a great place to set up an amateur astronomical observatory.

I lived in Wichita, KS for 18 years. That was okay, too, but Dems held the governorship back then.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
102. It's not by regions. It's by political party. Wyoming, Utah, and other non-south red states are
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:11 PM
Apr 2013

mentioned.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
37. I have lived in 2 and left them as soon as I could.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:23 PM
Apr 2013

Couldn't wait to get out of TX as a kid and couldn't wait to get out of VA back in the 80s. I grieved when job circumstances moved me from NY to VA and rejoiced when I moved from VA to CT. I'm so happy here and my kids are in MA, NYC and CA. They are all confirmed blue staters...

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
39. Savanah, Georgia
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:27 PM
Apr 2013

Blue county in a red state. Beautiful city.

But I already live at the Beach in DE, where my vote counts.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
131. I love Savannah
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:58 PM
Apr 2013

We spent a week there, last Summer.

Great food, music and bars.

Did I mention the architecture and history?

But I think I will stay in Sonoma.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
145. My son is thinking about college in Savannah
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 06:49 AM
Apr 2013

Do you know anything about SCAD? (Savannah College of Art and Design)

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
42. None
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:29 PM
Apr 2013

Really, I thought about it and can't really come up with a "compromise" state. At the end of the day I'm less than thrilled by living in the border/purple/swing state in which I currently reside, Florida.

But the golfing is good.

P.S. I presume NVA doesn't count as a "red" state these days.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
139. Me too
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 12:02 AM
Apr 2013

Best vacation we ever had was in NOLA. And I don't even drink! Granted, vacations are a lot different from living somewhere, but we loved the diversity, the architecture, the food (of course), the art, the MUSIC (some of the best ever anywhere). (insert some killer sax).

Not sure how I would deal with some of the overt racism we witnessed (we stayed in the French Quarter, of course) and pretty much the only people of color we saw were working in the hotels, on Bourbon Street in the clubs, on street corners making music or in Jackson Square. Driving through some of the horribly poor neighborhoods was an eye opener - not used to that kind of segregation here. And the weather sucks unless it's March or October - I don't do well with humidity.

Though being a California native, the weather would no doubt be a factor just about anywhere. I'd give just about anything right now for a cup of java from the Cafe Du Monde and a beignet. Yum!! If MHP can make it there, so could I.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
46. I live in a "Purple" state . . . .
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:45 PM
Apr 2013

. . . meaning, there are times where we come to our senses (Sherrod Brown, Marcy Kaptur, President Obama) . . . . aaaaaaaaand there are times where we put cockbags like Mike Dewine, Rob Portman, Bob Taft, John Kat$hit and the Failure Fuhrer in office.

So should I stay here and keep up the good fight or stay and possibly put my head in my palms in 2014 and 2016?

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
47. Missouri or North Carolina
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:45 PM
Apr 2013

The weather is not too cold or not too hot. They also have adequate natural resources and rainfall. They aren't too red either.

I'm in San Antonio, Texas. Politically, the city is good, but the weather is too hot and we're always in a drought.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
48. When I see a question like this I often
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:46 PM
Apr 2013

think "yeah, I'd move back to Dallas in a heartbeat"...

But sometimes I wonder if I'm just being nostalgic and thinking I can live there as I did in my youth with no worries and easy access to Dallas Cowboys games and the Rangers Ballpark. I left Dallas over 30 years ago and have been back only twice and thoroughly enjoyed both trips as much as I could given the circumstances (one a funeral and the other a week long training session for work) but I wonder if long-term living there would begin to wear on me.

I dunno but I bet it wouldn't be hard to convince me to give it a try.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
104. I live in Dallas. I moved here for the economy. Dallas has been good to me, financially.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:17 PM
Apr 2013

But it's pretty vanilla here...kind of blah, if you ask me. With exceptions: The Dallas Summer Musicals, an occasional interesting museum event, lots of movies. There are lots of restaurants, but there are lots of restaurants everywhere, and I'm not a food guru. Lots of sports events, but I hate sports. It's pretty clean, for a biggish city.

It now has a rail system, so that's good.

But teh pay is decent, the attractions mentioned above, cost of living is reasonable, getting around in traffic isn't bad, two great airports.

The soil is terrible (I'd like to garden, but can't, really. I'll have to move to do that.) Droughts...brown grass...water shortages...extreme heat (people die here every year from the heat).

Houston is better, IMO. More exciting. Horrible traffic, though. Great soil and weather (lots of rain).

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
121. Intangibles
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:19 PM
Apr 2013

One of them being all my friends from my teen years are there - plus one of my brothers (I never get to see any of my brothers).

On a whim I looked at some house listings in my old town and couldn't believe the size of the houses I could get for what my house here is worth - some triple the sq feet of my current house and in the nice neighborhoods I wasn't even allowed to visit back then. (lol, nobody barred me from visiting there - I just didn't know anyone there so there was no point in going). Not Highland Park nice but still nicer than the places I lived.

I love to go to metal shows and I know from the tour dates of the bands I keep track of that they often have Dallas gigs so I'd be good there. And I'd love to hit up some SXSW events some day. I'd probably go see some country, jazz and blues clubs if I was there too. Not much of that here.

Plus I LOOOOVE sports and the Cowboys and Rangers are my teams.

Seasons. I think I'd like to see some seasons again. Although I might miss golfing in shorts at Christmas.

Unfortunately my wife's family is all here and she'd be hard pressed to leave them. And I make pretty good money here because I have been at this company a long time and I doubt I'd be able to transfer that to a new place in Dallas. Maybe some day though.

Last year I experimented with gardening in 5 gallon buckets. I didn't get much yield but I learned a lot for my first time and expect to do much better this year. Time to start soon actually. I used a mixture of black kow and potting soil that seemed to work well until I screwed up the watering...that might be a solution for you. I was just after peppers and squash - if you mean to do flower and trees gardening that might not work.


eta~"Unfortunately" for my moving fantasy - not unfortunate that her people are close...that's generally pretty nice.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
88. I'm Not Sure Nevada Counts
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:30 PM
Apr 2013

Nevada voted for Obama both times and Harry Reid lots of times.

If it did, I'd probably end up somewhere near Gerlach, which has pretty much been taken over by Burning Man people.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
148. The Nevada state legislature meets for about six weeks every other year
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 01:55 PM
Apr 2013

The state isn't overburdened with ridiculous laws like California has been for decades.

When you drive from California into Nevada, you can tell by the condition of the road that the state is managed better.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
149. It's about as reddish as I could put up with.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 01:56 PM
Apr 2013

Economically the best place to be for someone like me is probably Texas, or Tennessee. But I couldn't take the culture.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
52. Montana.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:58 PM
Apr 2013

I live here now, in a town called Missoula, which is a very liberal college town. I love Missoula, but I will probably move back to Portland, Oregon in a few years.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
156. I love Missoula!
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:04 PM
Apr 2013

I was born in Montana, moved to Washington State when I was five, but spent time each summer with Grandma and Grandpa on Higgins Street. There was a theater across the street, (maybe the Roxy?) Went with Grandpa to watch the Missoula Timberjacks right down the street on summer nights and he could do a cigar without Grandma scolding him! He took my brother and I fishing on the beautiful Bitterroot River by Hamilton
My other Grandpa taught me to trout fish on Spring Creek at Lewistown. We ate trout for dinner every other night. Loved it.
Love that BIG SKY and the Gallatin River area is breathtakingly beautiful!
But....too cold and long winters and too far from the Pacific Ocean, that has my heart now.
There are NO red states on the Left Coast!

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
159. Northern states have a saying:
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:10 PM
Apr 2013

Our four seasons are almost winter, winter, still winter, and construction.

ceile

(8,692 posts)
57. Texas is my home.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:31 PM
Apr 2013

Cities are blue and the rest of state will be purple shortly. It's beautiful and the people (for the most part) are truly kind hearted. Only draw back is the summer. A Texas summer can kill someone who is not acclimated.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
59. I spent some time in Tennessee before. It wasn't that bad.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:40 PM
Apr 2013

Nashville (i.e Nash-Vegas) wasn't too bad either. I could see myself being comfortable there.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
62. Just where I'm from. Louisiana or Gulf Coast Mississippi. It's beautiful, and incredibly diverse.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:49 PM
Apr 2013

Someday I may go back, because it's also inexpensive and unlike the PNW, you can drive a very short distance and be in an entirely different culture. And you can fish and grow the world's best tomatoes while listening to some kick-ass local music and having the neighbors over for a crawfish boil.



 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
64. Utah.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:51 PM
Apr 2013

I love Utah-- it's beautiful and the people seem friendly. Great mountain biking, camping, etc. Took a long kayak trip there a few years back that was just amazing.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
65. Arizona. California one one side, New Mexico on the other, and Mexico
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:57 PM
Apr 2013

below.

The weather is warmer than most of the country, and there is a lot of open space and amazing natural beauty.

Yeah, there are way too many neanderthals still roaming here, but they are on the way to becoming extinct.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
67. Coastal South Carolina or Georgia.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:13 PM
Apr 2013

In other words, some place closest to the geography and climate of my very purple home state, Florida.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
69. Montana. My family is there and I lived there for 25 years.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:16 PM
Apr 2013

I love Montana. The politics on the other hand....

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
70. cities in red states are typically quite blue. my top one would be miami, i consider florida
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:17 PM
Apr 2013

quite red

texas is redder than arterial blood, but austin is a very blue city

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
72. Couldn't do it.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:32 PM
Apr 2013

For many years I lived in a bright blue dot in blood red Idaho and wouldn't go back for a million dollars.

I love my mountains and the seasons and if I had to, I'd pick western Montana, but on the whole I'd rather be in Canada.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
89. Everything except our legislature is deep purple.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:31 PM
Apr 2013

Our legislature, thanks to the magic of gerrymandering, is bright red.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
118. Ohhh. That would be a gruesome death. You must surely bleed bright, blue, blue.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:55 PM
Apr 2013

If forced, I would choose Arizona or even a city in Texas over a mamba bite, any day.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
79. Alaska for the red state.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 03:53 PM
Apr 2013

If you consider Florida to be red, then Florida is currently number one for me. That is where I live, and I love it. Nationally it is a swing state. Locally it has some of the reddest areas you will find in the country.

murray hill farm

(3,650 posts)
81. Arkansas!
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:05 PM
Apr 2013

It is where I live now...in a very rural area. Wherever you live, you will always find like minded folks..and more than one would think.

murray hill farm

(3,650 posts)
122. I live on my little goat farm.."Murray HIll Farm"
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:05 PM
Apr 2013

about 2 miles outside of the little town of Cove, Arkansas (population less than 400). Cove is about 15 miles south of Mena. I hear you guys have an active UU congregation up there in Fayetteville. I miss that, but love Arkansas and have been here for about 5 years.

4_TN_TITANS

(2,977 posts)
83. The one I live in... Tennessee.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:12 PM
Apr 2013

This is a nature lover's paradise. There is no where in the state where you aren't within 30 minutes of a state park. We live within 45 minutes of 3 amazing TVA lakes. I've learned to fit in quite well with the natives, while still being a Liberal.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
106. I visited there once for a couple of months. An awesomely beautiful area. It was Chattanooga.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:20 PM
Apr 2013

The economy was bad, though. High cost of living, low wages, not many jobs. But that was a looooong time ago, so maybe it's different now.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
92. Where I live now in Georgia.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 06:19 PM
Apr 2013

I live in a totally red county in North Georgia, but I love it here. The weather is perfect. Summer only lasts a few months with extreme heat, which is a hell of a lot better than the year-round heat when I lived in South Florida.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
93. Sorry, couldn't do it.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 07:25 PM
Apr 2013

I have always lived in the bluest cities in the bluest states and I could never handle living in a red state. I would go insane.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
119. I love my blue state in my blue part of the country. There is a plethora of blue cities
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:01 PM
Apr 2013

to visit. But if I had no choice, I would like for a blue city or blue county in a red state.

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
95. Arkansas, where I am now.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 07:45 PM
Apr 2013

It just turned deep red in the last election and I hope it's a temporary condition.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
120. New Hampshire went red in the legislature in 2010, then swung back blue in record fashion
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:08 PM
Apr 2013

during the 2012 election. So right-wing republican craziness has it's benefits. And right now, Arkansas is pretty damned crazy under a republican legislature.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
97. What's a 'hard coded' Red State?
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 07:59 PM
Apr 2013

I think there are actually fewer than people might think.

Personally I like living in Virginia -- I'm originally From NY.

I ask this because I think a lot of people believe NYS is a seriously blue state, they would be surprised at the amount of red voters that live there.

NY, once you get out of the metro areas is an awful lot like Virginia once one gets out of the NOVA region.

Massachusetts elected Scott Brown -- and Mass is one of the bluest of the blue states.

Having lived in Atlanta, I would say the same about Georgia. I would venture to say that there are very few states that are hard coded as RED.

Peace,
Raine

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
98. Texas, I guess (where I live), because the economy is pretty good, cost of living lower than avg.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:06 PM
Apr 2013

While earning a living, those things are very important, of course. But for later years, Virginia or the Carolinas or Georgia might be nice....very pretty there (at least the pics I've seen are).

Louisiana is beautiful (where I'm from), but the economy is awful. Baton Rouge and around there might be nice.

BainsBane

(53,029 posts)
103. Texas, if I could live in Austin
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:12 PM
Apr 2013

because Austin is great, or at least it was while I was in grad school there.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
105. Utah
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:18 PM
Apr 2013

without a doubt, one of the most beautiful places in America. Mountains, forests, rivers, lakes, deserts, and seasons.

Oh yeah, and the best Halloweens ever. Perfect weather, kids everywhere, "haunted" corn mazes, and lots of old ghost towns.

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
143. I'm so happy to see people express some love for Utah on this thread.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 12:56 AM
Apr 2013

I grew up in the Air Force until my Dad retired and we settled in Utah. I've lived in many states and a couple of foreign countries but I love the diversity of the terrain in Utah and don't ever want to live where there are no mountains again. By the way, my parents were raised in a town nestled in a narrow canyon that is now a ghost town in Carbon County. I love the history associated with those little ghost towns.

babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
108. I had a choice to move anywhere. I live in GA.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:22 PM
Apr 2013

I lived in Houston, TX. So.... This choice at the time was made because of the economy and climate, not politics.

It's called survival; it's been okay, except when it's not. There are a lot of 'damned Yankees' down here, and a lot of really nice locals; politics don't matter, and you can't pick your friends that way. I consider it growing up for me, but I do make my politics known. Sheeet flies sometimes!

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
111. there are several red states I'd be happy to live in
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:33 PM
Apr 2013

as long as I had some control over the circumstances, of course. Texas (for the cities); Wyoming and Montana (for the mountains); and Arizona (for family). Most of the other states have at least a few places I wouldn't mind living (Atlanta/Savannah in Georgia, New Orleans in Louisiana, and so on).

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
114. North Carolina....
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:39 PM
Apr 2013

...red, but with pockets of deep blue scattered from the west to the east. Gotta love our beautiful, green mountains. But if old north is considered a swing state, I'd say my old home state of Tennessee.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
124. I suppose
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:22 PM
Apr 2013

I would live in Texas, considering that it is a red state on the verge of becoming purple. But I wouldn't mind visiting states like Idaho and Montana. I never hear much about either of them.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
127. Wyoming.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:45 PM
Apr 2013

1) I can tolerate libertarian cons better than theo-cons. Wyoming tends more towards the live and let live side.

2) Small population so there's a much better chance of getting into state politics than in the old-guard red states.

3) Other than oil and gas, Wyoming's major industry is the environment, so the lib-cons tend to be more willing to protect the land and can be convinced to do so if they think it's in their best interest.

4) Lots of middle of nowhere left, so putting up with the conservatives becomes more optional. If I have to live with them, I want a few square miles between me and them.

5) It's gorgeous.

6) There's room to start a punk/industrial/goth festival (on the lines of Burning Man, but without the heat or the alkaline dust.) Lib-cons tend to be better than theo-cons about accepting that freak money spends just fine.

7) Wind power. You know how Wyoming got settled? The pioneers were just waiting for the wind to stop blowing.

donco

(1,548 posts)
130. I think that
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:56 PM
Apr 2013

I'll stay in the show-me and help turn it blue again instead of running with my tail between my legs.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
132. I lived in Tennessee until I was 9 or 10
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:59 PM
Apr 2013

I have a lot of good memories and a bunch of cousins living there and I visit every 3 or 4 years.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
134. I'd stay in the Bluegrass. Chill in the Ville.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:14 PM
Apr 2013

If I had to move to another place, I guess I'd look at Montana, possibly Alaska, MAYBE Tennessee, definitely North Carolina if it is considered red.

Mz Pip

(27,435 posts)
135. South Carolina
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:21 PM
Apr 2013

I want to be on a coast so that eliminates many of the Red states. I would probably like the coast and the beaches.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
137. How do we determine the state color? Presidential or state elections?
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:38 PM
Apr 2013

I live in PA, we vote solidly Democratic in presidential elections but this state is blood red when it comes to state politics. Both houses and the governor are teabagging imbeciles. Is this a red state or a blue state? I'd argue that on the whole this is a red state and by quite a bit.

Idaho looks like a beautiful state though.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
142. Believe it or not, I'd rather stay in Texas.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 12:18 AM
Apr 2013

Hey, it ain't all bad here; we've got chunks of the D/FW area(particularly Dallas itself), Houston, College Station/Bryan, El Paso, Laredo, San Antonio(where the Alamo is), and of course, Austin.(though I'll grant you that Wichita Falls, Tyler, and Abilene are probably as red as the devil himself.....Lubbock might be okay though, since it's home to Texas Tech)

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
144. Austin, New Orleans, or somewhere in the mountains of Tennessee / Carolina's
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 03:01 AM
Apr 2013

Of course I live in New Orleans now, and grew up in Mississippi, so I'm a little more used to the southern eccentricities.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
147. I like it where I am.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 08:26 AM
Apr 2013

I live in a red area in a blue state.

I don't carry a list of red and blue states in my head, so I'm not sure what "red" state I would choose. I like the Pacific NW. If I had to leave, I'd probably go to Canada.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
153. I've been horribly spoiled by living in the desert
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 03:50 PM
Apr 2013

so I'd have to pick AZ, probably Tucson. It was second on my list but I liked NM better when I flew out from Boston to check it all out.

The heat would be tough to deal with. I'd probably do all my shopping online or at all night groceries. My electric bill would be astronomical.

However, I'd be working to kick that state to the left. As I've gotten old and grey and mellowed a bit, I've gotten better at it, so it wouldn't be a total loss.

TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
161. If you don't actually need DESERT, Flagstaff is a very nice place.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:19 PM
Apr 2013

Rather like the area round Tierra Amarilla/Chama. And it's "bluer" than Phoenix, though not as blue as Tucson. If I were condemned to live in AZ I'd have my regular home in Flagstaff and try to afford a vacation cottage in Bisbee, which is another extremely neat place but not during the summer.

helpfully,
Bright

TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
164. Tucson is a great town. I'd melt in the summer, though.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:38 PM
Apr 2013

If we could just root up & destroy every juniper north of Belen, El Norte would be practically perfect as far as climate and natural conditions go. And food. And music. And weirditudinousness of culture.

Politics... not so much.

wryly,
Bright

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
166. To tell the truth, my cat is more allergic to juniper than I am
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 05:02 PM
Apr 2013

My problem is mulberry and I've got one of the damned things in my front yard.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
154. Idaho.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 03:50 PM
Apr 2013

I love the wilderness and Idaho north of and including the Frank Church Wilderness has plenty of that. I'm partial to the panhandle and if you go out in the woods far enough, you don't have to spend that much time with people. The big problem is the lack of community services if you need them. You pretty much are at the mercy of the churches and the lack of regulations in businesses. Or attention to repairs, like if a bridge washes out, it takes years to repair it if at all. But the locals will keep voting for the mining and lumber interests in order to keep their guns and their freedom from govmint.

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