"Gate to Hell Found in Turkey"

[BainsBane]

At last, we finally know where Dick Cheney's undisclosed location actually was.


"As far as archaeological discoveries go, it's a darker one: Pluto's Gate -- aka, the fabled gate to the underworld -- has reportedly been unearthed in Turkey.

The team behind the dig made the announcement last month, and ANSA and Discovery report on the finding and the Greco-Roman mythology behind the portal: Cicero and Greek geographer Strabo made reference to the entryway to Hell in their writings, and placed it in the ancient city of Hierapolis.

As Strabo explained of the cave opening, which spewed noxious vapors, "Any animal that passes inside meets instant death. I threw in sparrows and they immediately breathed their last and fell."

Italian archaeologist Francesco D'Andria has been examining Hierapolis for years (he formerly claimed he found one of the 12 apostles' tombs there). This time around, he explains his team found the portal "by reconstructing the route of a thermal spring" to the cave; he was also able to identify the ruins of a temple, pool, and steps -- from which pagan pilgrims would watch sacred rites performed at the portal's opening -- referenced in descriptions of the cave."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/01/newser-turkey-gate-underworld/2042227/?kjnd=JO0PGXACMAMnvxXzItqPGdCvMprElSdmyC%2F8SsAfB8Kb2HVn14uznHI%2BhD5DYVue-44e995d1-03bb-4857-8c0a-62376bfeea19_mz9Sgl%2B29kpCFBYFgweljWOrV9XoggAIdqPJlk1VF7mhOnZLGpN6NJgPpupKs%2FQm

[Oldfolkie]

1. The Hell You Say,,,,?

There are at least two others known to seekers. The Greek one is on their NW coast.
The Italian one is just southwest of Naples.

[Bosonic]

2. More impressive than the Turkmenistan Door to Hell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_to_Hell

[KansDem]

34. Are those people standing to the left?

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It's much larger than one might imagine!

[Chellee]

56. Well it would need to be big, wouldn't it?

Think about how many people really just need to go to hell.

The entire Republican party for instance.

[BainsBane]

37. Wow

No.

[Warren DeMontague]

3. yeah, you need to cook that stuff to an internal temperature of at least 165 F.

Although I'd go all the way up to 180 just to be sure.

[TexasProgresive]

4. Well-I thought I found it 44 years ago near San Antonio

Lackland Air Force Base.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

12. I found one in the apartment downstairs 4 years ago.

[pinboy3niner]

5. Scientists knew it was the authentic Gate to Hell when they found indisputable proof

All around the entrance, as far as you could see, were the handbaskets...

[In_The_Wind]

6. Indeed! I knew I could count on you to substantiate this claim..

[xchrom]

7. ...

[ZOB]

9. ...and the road that leads to it is paved with good intentions

[undeterred]

10. Actually, the road to hell is paved with Republicans.

[WinkyDink]

54. But then they'd have needed good intentions. ;-)

[rhett o rick]

13. and not a single snowball.

[HappyMe]

15. That's the first thing I thought of.

I'm off to prepare my hand basket, right now.

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

17. Do we also get to finally see how a bat flies from hell?

My mom always said that my dad drove like a bat out of hell and I would like a chance to finally see if she was right.

[pinboy3niner]

32. Marvin Lee Aday showed us in '77...

aka Meat Loaf (with a little help from cover artist Richard Corben) ...

[naaman fletcher]

8. "I threw in sparrows and they immediately breathed their last and fell."

Well, that was kind of a dick move.

[Live and Learn]

20. +1 My thought as well. nt

[Tree-Hugger]

48. +1 nt

[ohiosmith]

11. That must be one big ass turkey!

[Volaris]

14. Pics or it didn't happen

which raises a question:
Generally, there are 2 rules regarding the doing of publicly "unacceptable/awesome things", the first being the above posted, but the other being "Never make Tape".

So the question is, is there a hard and fast rule that determines which is allowable in any given situation, or must decisions be made purely in a contextualy-relavant process?

Anyone?=)

[BainsBane]

16. pics

The article says it's a place identified as a gate to hell in Greco-Roman mythology, not that it actually leads to hell. It's an archaeological dig.

[Volaris]

21. right, right, I read the OP, I just didnt know if there was a pic of the actual cave opening.

Thanks btw.

[BainsBane]

35. not in the article

I found this one via an image search.

[Newest Reality]

52. That explains why

the sign is missing:

ABANDON ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER HERE!

[Larkspur]

18. Hell is from the Norse goddess Hel, who presided over a portion of the dead

The Greeks and Romans didn't believe in the Christian concept of Hell. Tartarus, which is a lower part of the Underworld, is their dungeon of torment and suffering that is reserved for the worst of villains of their mythology, including Cronus and the other Titans who were thrown in by Zeus. Uranus also threw his own children -- The Titans, the three one-hundred-armed giants called the Hekatonkheires and the one-eyed giants the Cyclopes -- into Tartarus because he feared they might overthrow him.

From another viewpoint, Tartarus is the Greco-Roman Guantanamo, or a prison for immortal political prisoners. Zeus usurped his father and Titan, Cronus, as ruler of the Gods and Men and had to put him somewhere.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

22. Uranus. Pssh.

What an asshole.

[OriginalGeek]

28. Maybe URanus

mine didn't do shit.

[The Straight Story]

19. Actually they are near where I used to live in Gambier, Ohio:

http://bulletin.kenyon.edu/x3210.xml



A psychic once claimed the gates of hell are located in Gambier.

Unlike other Kenyon legends, which seem to have sprouted among the corn from a stray kernel of truth, the Gates of Hell story can be traced directly to daytime TV. And its origin is based more on fact than one might imagine of a legend involving a portal to Hell.

The name is so prevalent today that many students can't recall ever hearing the stone pillars on Middle Path called anything but the Gates of Hell. Built two decades after the College was founded, they are referred to as the Gates of College Park or College Gates in archival material, names wussified by the much more strident "This Way to the Underworld" appellation.

Although some versions of the story involve a writer as the source of the tale (darn writers, always making things up), College Historian Tom Stamp '73, the College's record-setter-straighter, cites Phil Donahue and a psychic. Stamp remembers because he was there when the calls started.

So, once and for all: In the early 1980s Donahue hosted a psychic on his show who claimed to know where the entrance to Hell was located. Shortly thereafter people began calling the College, asking in earnest if the gates to, you know, Hell were in fact on campus. They expressed "how awful this was and 'couldn't we do something about it?'" Stamp said. As if the College had actually signed some sort of damnation decree allowing for the establishment of a Hell franchise. Gambier won't even allow Wendy's in.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

25. I Almost Went To Kenyon

I was recruited to play football there, and went for a recruiting visit. I didn't particularly like it, and ended up going to a different school, but I do remember from growing up in the area (well, actually about 30-45 minutes away in Mansfield) that Gambier was supposed to be rife with Satanic cults and was one of the "hot spots" of Satanism in the country. I always found it interesting, considering it was so close to Mount Vernon (where Mount Vernon Nazarene College is--a school so uber-religious that you can get kicked out of school if they find out you were drinking alcohol even OFF CAMPUS).

[The Straight Story]

27. I lived in Mt. Vernon and went to Mansfield quite a bit

The whole area was interesting But really beautiful homes.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

31. I Have Friends Who Live In Mt. Vernon

I used to go there quite a bit to visit them. I don't go quite as much anymore, though, because most of them have moved to other places. One of my good friends from college actually went to Mt. Vernon High School and went back there after he graduated for a few years, but now lives in Columbus.

Yes, I'm fairly familiar with the area.

[jdadd]

55. I live just south of Mansfield (Lexington area)

Been here most of my life. I have a family member (cousin) employed by Kenyon College, I'll have to ask her, about the gates to Hell....LOL

[ChoppinBroccoli]

61. I Went To Lexington High School

Graduated in 1990. My grandparents lived in Lexington while they were still alive. My parents still live in Mansfield. I came to Columbus to go to school back in 1990 and never left.

[jdadd]

64. I'm back in the house I grew up in....

Graduated in 1967 from Lexington. I worked at Mansfield Westinghouse plant, Got drafted (vietnam era) , came home, went back to Westinghouse, (till closing in 1990) got married and divorced, lived and worked around the Mansfield, Mount Vernon, Crestline area. Retired in 2011....The heavy industries are all gone....I guess my roots are too deep, just never left.....

I remember when this village had around 500 residents, that's before John Morley and all the new housing developments. Being a Democrat in this "red hell" has its advantages, no lines when you vote in the primaries....

[OriginalGeek]

30. I had family that lived in Mansfield for years

My grandpa grew up in Alliance...

[knitter4democracy]

58. I went to the Naz. You couldn't get kicked out for drinking.

That would get you fined and put on social probation. Getting pregnant or someone else pregnant would get you kicked out.

[Blue_Tires]

23. Please...Some of us have always known about Turkey's Gate to Hell

[Liberal_in_LA]

24. dont open it

[Ellipsis]

26. My understanding is... there is a convenient side door which opens into Karl Rove's kitchen pantry.

[BainsBane]

36. to dispense Ham Rove

[Eleanors38]

29. The turkey I shot in Texas didn't have no key in it, maybe a diff. Species.

[cthulu2016]

33. C'mon maaaaaan... Hades is not Hell.

[Arugula Latte]

38. Too cool.

I love stuff like this.

But I thought Hell was in Norway.

[War Horse]

44. Been there

The place even spawned a Ms. Universe.

?d=1295679634

[Pendrench]

39. Reminds me of an old SCTV sketch...

[BainsBane]

40. Do you know who those actors are?

The MC looks familiar, but I can't place him.

[blogslut]

49. Dave Thomas is the host. Rick Moranis is the devil.

Don't know about the other guy.

You might remember Dave and Rick as Bob & Doug McKenzie:

[olddots]

46. thankyou

[Nevernose]

41. Animal cruelty probably shouldn't make me laugh

Especially since it was a couple of millennia ago. However, the image of the all scientific experimentation and progress being reduced to, "Throw another bird at it!" made me chuckle. I'm enjoying the mental image of Einstein and Darwin chucking sparrows at things, probably while Linnaeus stands behind them commenting on the excellence of their passeridae-chucking skills.

[Phillip McCleod]

42. right.. and how many times has noah's ark been 'found' now?

or any long list of other supposed biblical sites.

the claim by the 'archaeologist' that he found one of the 12 apostles' tombs is enough to raise the red flag for this skeptic.

[BainsBane]

43. Read the article

It's a location described in Greco-Roman mythology. No one believes it actually leads to hell.

Biblical sites do exist. That doesn't require they be divine.

[Phillip McCleod]

45. i know some bibilical sites exist.

and i accept the possibility.. even the likelihood.. that the team did in fact find what they said they found. like i said, the red flag for me was the claim to finding an apostles' tomb. first it seems to me we'd want to be certain that the apostles actually existed in the flesh before claiming to find one of their tombs. i don't believe that's a settled fact.

[BainsBane]

51. What makes you think they didn't exist?

They wrote texts documenting their experiences. Granted, I don't follow such things closely, but I didn't realize there was a dispute as to whether they exist. Controversies I've read about have to do with which apostles accounts wound up in modern versions of the New Testament and which, like Thomas's, were censored.

[Rex]

47. Hmm...more like a cave to hell.

The actual Gates to Hell are found in the back of a quiet home buried in the wood of West Virginia.

[LeftInTX]

50. Maybe we can send some Tea Partiers there for a biblical retreat

[WinkyDink]

53. "....Later found to be George W. Bush's artist's studio."

[knitter4democracy]

57. We all know that one of the gates is at Kenyon College.

Duh. Maybe there's one in Turkey, but have they gone to Kenyon yet?

[BainsBane]

59. You are the second person who has said that

though I'd never heard it before.

[knitter4democracy]

60. I went to the Christian college across town from there.

It was considered common knowledge, and I had many friends who claimed to have some sort of experience with it. The kids at Kenyon seemed to consider it a joke, which, really, we all did for the most part.

[Zorra]

62. Meh. Everyone knows the gate to hell is somewhere in Jersey. nt

[BainsBane]

63. right, no argument there

This is only the back door.